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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    If uncharted is a tomb raider clone wouldn't that mean the new tomb raider is cloning itself?

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    Same could be said about RE6, Thats what the reviews say
    So its a over the shoulder shooter that inspired by Uncharted which was inspired by RE4
    Tomb Raider is a different kettle of Fish
    Uncharted is a shooter/platformer, Tomb Raider is a platformer/puzzler
    Ones a adventure game the other is action/adventure FPS
    for how different they both are you just have to look at Tomb Raiders combat system, it has auto lock on and has very few enemies
    Uncharted has manual aim, cover system loads of weapons and a melee system
    Yes lara can kick, but its not the same and even that is a auto lock on

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    True...and one starts with the letter U, while the other starts with T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Same could be said about RE6, Thats what the reviews say So its a over the shoulder shooter that inspired by Uncharted which was inspired by RE4 Tomb Raider is a different kettle of Fish Uncharted is a shooter/platformer, Tomb Raider is a platformer/puzzler Ones a adventure game the other is action/adventure Sent via Codec
    Uncharted has puzzles too so Uncharted would be a shooter/platformer/puzzler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A7MAD View Post
    Uncharted seems to have taken inspiration from one game and one successful movie franchise imo, Tomb Raider and Indiana Jones. Love Uncharted and it's not a knock to believe ND was inspired by these two I mentioned.
    Agreed. And I love the Uncharted series but the inspiration is obvious. But thats definitely not a knock on the series at all.

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    Indeed. It's a good thing that UC copied TR in many aspects. TR is popular and successful for a reason. Great game and genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Uncharted has puzzles too so Uncharted would be a shooter/platformer/puzzler.
    It does, but I'm pointing out the heart of the games, Uncharted at heart is a shooter, Tomb Raider is Platform/puzzler
    What I mean by that is not only does it have puzzles, but even the platforming working something out, especially that old ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Indeed. It's a good thing that UC copied TR in many aspects. TR is popular and successful for a reason. Great game and genre.
    What did it copy in many aspects?

    "Was" successful. It's been a total flop since the 2nd installment.

    The new one has yet to change that, though we will have to wait and see.
    Last edited by Omar; 10-07-2012 at 18:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    It does, but I'm pointing out the heart of the games, Uncharted at heart is a shooter, Tomb Raider is Platform/puzzler What I mean by that is not only does it have puzzles, but even the platforming working something out, especially that old ones Sent via Codec
    Yeah I gotcha. I was merely pointing out that Uncharted has all 3 elements. But I also realise that shooting/platforming are the predominant elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    What did it copy in many aspects?

    • Third Person
    • Shooter
    • Puzzles
    • Action
    • Platforming
    • Hand to hand combat
    • Exotic environments
    • Ancient legends, artifacts and tombs
    • Jungle, Ship, Water and Desert battles
    • Climbing, jumping
    • Quick Time Events
    • Mastered assortment of guns
    • Creatures and mythological monsters
    • A lead that has been backstabbed in the story
    • Different weather extremes
    • Great looking lead characters
    • Symphony sounds that resemble Indiana Jones movies
    • Bomber Jackets
    • Daggers
    • Monasteries
    • Tibetan Mountains
    • Traveling to remote islands to unlock big gold objects such as pyramids and coffins
    • Multi-armed god statues
    • Treasure hunters bring artifacts to war lords, granting super powers to past friends and foes
    • and more that I am missing.


    IMO

    "Was" successful. It's been a total flop since the 2nd installment.
    No.
    Last edited by Soldier 95B; 10-07-2012 at 18:47.

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    Ahh....what have I started...

    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Well I've certainly given better arguments to show that Uncharted is influenced by TR than you have to show that it isnt. All you've done is basically say no its not and nothing much more. Your opinion flies in the face of evidence that you just simply deny. Apparently you think journalist and gamers across the net who acknowledge the influence are wrong and youre right. lol So on that note we'll just have to agree to disagree then.
    No. I don't think you have.

    Uncharted seems to have taken inspiration from one game and one successful movie franchise imo, Tomb Raider and Indiana Jones.

    Love Uncharted and it's not a knock to believe ND was inspired by these two I mentioned.

    Gameplay of Tomb Raider and Uncharted isn't that similar -- they do use third person perspective, yes...but so do many other games. Shooting isn't even the main focus of Tomb Raider.

    I am just saying that the examples a lot of people like to give to say TR influenced Uncharted aren't that obvious because of how far gaming has come now.....so yes there could have been influence. At the same time....it's possible that it wasn't the case.

    When I play Uncharted, I think TR all the time due to my previous experience playing all the TR games.


    Not sure why.

    I don't think anyone here said TR was the first to introduce any of that. As I mentioned before, TR and UC really copied Pitfall from back in MY day.


    I didn't say anyone here was saying that....so OK.

    You are better at making a case then this. Come on. That is like saying GT didn't copy Forza or Forza didn't copy GT....because then that means they copied Need for Speed, Grid, PGR, Dirt, Pole Position, F1. The two games we are discussing are substantially closer in similarity than say Uncharted vs. Mario


    OK? All those games have one thing in common -- platforming. I think platforming is established enough as of now where developers do have an idea of what type of gameplay a platforming game will have without having to reference other games (not saying they won't....just making a point here.)

    Any many other do see it. Not a big deal.


    That's cool.

    It doesn't mean anything, you are correct. We are just all voicing our opinions on a game forum.


    And...?

    • Third Person
    • Shooter
    • Puzzles
    • Action
    • Platforming
    • Hand to hand combat
    • Exotic environments
    • Ancient legends, artifacts and tombs
    • Jungle, Ship, Water and Desert battles
    • Climbing, jumping
    • Quick Time Events
    • Mastered assortment of guns
    • Creatures and mythological monsters
    • A lead that has been backstabbed in the story
    • Different weather extremes
    • Great looking lead characters
    • Symphony sounds that resemble Indiana Jones movies
    • Bomber Jackets
    • Daggers
    • Monasteries
    • Tibetan Mountains
    • Traveling to remote islands to unlock big gold objects such as pyramids and coffins
    • Multi-armed god statues
    • Treasure hunters bring artifacts to war lords, granting super powers to past friends and foes
    • and more that I am missing.
    You can't be serious. lol





    Last edited by sainraja; 10-07-2012 at 19:07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    You can't be serious. lol

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    @Sainraja- And I dont think you have either (disproved it) which is why I said we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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    This is not like Sain, as he is normally more articulate in his opinion rebuttals. Rad and I have given exact details and examples of why we feel the way we do. Yet Sain has only replied with "lol" and "they are not similar".

    Clearly we will not be able to agree on this opinion. Probably time to move on from the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    This is not like Sain, as he is normally more articulate in his opinion rebuttals. Rad and I have given exact details and examples of why we feel the way we do. Yet Sain has only replied with "lol" and "they are not similar".

    Clearly we will not be able to agree on this opinion. Probably time to move on from the subject.
    I've stated why they are different, I believe you replied with sarcasm
    Tomb Raider is Platforming exploreration game, a third person adventure game with a auto lock on mechanic for combat against wild animals mostly, Uncharted is a over the shoulder shooter with full on combat gameplay
    Uncharted is closer to the newer Resident Evils
    then Tomb Raider, same as Tomb Raider is closer to Prince of Persia
    Combat ain't that good but the platforming is where its at
    Though if Uncharted is a Clone of TR, then so is Resident Evil, Gears of War, MGS4 etc
    But if you mean that they both hunt for treasure in exotic locations then I suppose Halo is a rip off to everything with a Space marine in it, which there are a lot of FPS's with Space marines in them
    I think the most unoriginal game out there is(I know whats coming) Gears Of War
    They just took Unreal and dumped it in that PS2 game by Namco

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I've stated why they are different
    You did. I never said you didn't.

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    Indiana Jones did it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    This is not like Sain, as he is normally more articulate in his opinion rebuttals. Rad and I have given exact details and examples of why we feel the way we do. Yet Sain has only replied with "lol" and "they are not similar". Clearly we will not be able to agree on this opinion. Probably time to move on from the subject.
    I agree, thats why I'm moving on from the subject now. At least TGO has been posting some good counter arguments rather than just "you cant be serious" and "they are not similar". lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO
    both hunt for treasure in exotic locations
    Right...I only gave two bullet points of comparison? I must have typed the others in white text?

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    Your can't be serious?

    They aren't similar!

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Indiana Jones did it first.

    And every video game has copied Pong.
    EVERY GAME IS INDIANA JONES

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    Indiana Jones' reach doesn't end there, though. Partially because of the era when the character rose to fame, his influence has washed over gaming, whether it is incidentally like Pitfall or Tomb Raider or purposefully like Prince of Persia and Uncharted. Most likely, if you're playing a video game featuring whimsical adventures, the developer might have been humming the tune to Indiana Jones at some point.

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    We need a new GOOD Indiana Jones game actually.
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    Yes, yes we do! That could be HUGE if it was started from the ground up. And not a MOVIE type game.

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    No doubt TR had influence on the Uncharted series. ND's co-president (Evan Wells) is even a former Crystal Dynamics employee. Looking at the new TR game it looks to have borrowed some things from Uncharted. For example, it looks to be more cinematic like the Uncharted series.

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    As Tomb Raider was one of the pioneers of 3D, it has had a major influence, especially in the action/adventure genre.

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