To the ones unattainable, to god the peace giver, send forth an army of great power, to crush the common man
Spread the word of justice and the word of freedom. Dry the river of blood and fill it with joyful tears and destroy the black rainbow of chaos and color with one of love and happiness
Just though I throw this in there
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11-05-2012 #26Master Sage







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Last edited by SHAZZMAZZ; 11-05-2012 at 15:46.
No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they are not there we all got to have something to believe in.
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11-05-2012 #29
This is a load of bullshit. The UK has more violent crime, robberies and muggings then the US does. You guys putting a draconian ban on firearms has done zilch to stifle crime.
No serious study I've seen has ever concluded that England is a 'safer' because of its weapon ban.
Why do I want to own guns? Because I like them, for self defense, for hunting\sport, because they retain value. Firearms are always a sound investment.
The statement "Nobody should own guns but the police\military\government" is horrifying, because you're setting yourself up for complete abuse. US was founded on the idea that the people rule the nation, not its government. Government should serve us, and an armed population makes for a very respectful government.
Not that we've been doing all that wonderful at retaining our 2nd amendment rights over the past century.

So I guess you're proud of being misinformed?
Another screwed up thing is that you guys count "murders" based on the number of murderers. So if one guy kills 8 people, that counts as "one murder" because one guy committed them. UK is notorious (even IN the UK, as noted by the BBC of all places) for stat padding their crime reports in order to put a happy spin on things.Last edited by Vulgotha; 11-05-2012 at 15:58.
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Last edited by SHAZZMAZZ; 11-05-2012 at 16:11.
No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they are not there we all got to have something to believe in.
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11-05-2012 #31
Yea, it really is. UK is not 'safer' than the US and certainly not because of gun bans.
A country having alot of crime is unrelated to firearms. There is a slight negative correlation with crime and a nation allowing weapon freedom (like .4% or something small) so at worst it can be said "banning weapons does absolutely nothing" at best you can say "it very slightly decreases crime".
tldr; There is no convincing reason to ban guns.
Ok Shazz, how about this:
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...d-States/Crime
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tas-study.html
How's that British utopia treating you?
Proportionately, it's scary how close Britain is (or how it eclipses the US in quite a few) in regards to crime. We have a far larger population and more urban areas and you guys are literally right there lol.
311 million people (US) vs 62 million (UK) and the majority of our population is centered on the coasts. So we have a ton of highly populated, dense, urban areas filled with a ton more people and you guys are as bad or worse then we are even in spite of this massive gap.
And how about this chunk of data stating that even though the US has more guns per person IN THE WORLD (88/100) we're nowhere close to the top of gun crime\murders internationally?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list
We're like 27th. Or 2.97 per 100,000 people.
More awesome "Britain being safer than US" cuz of gun banz or something, right?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2042216.htmlLast edited by Vulgotha; 11-05-2012 at 16:18.
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Last edited by SHAZZMAZZ; 11-05-2012 at 16:24.
No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they are not there we all got to have something to believe in.
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Last edited by SHAZZMAZZ; 11-05-2012 at 16:29.
No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
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11-05-2012 #36Master Sage







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Guys guys relax, it's about taken the Mickey out of people over re-acting to a situation

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No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they are not there we all got to have something to believe in.
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11-05-2012 #39
What? What I'm saying is that in spite of the US owning the most guns per person on the planet we're only number 27th on gun related crimes\homicides.
That was as an aside sort of thing. Basically dispelling this myth that the US is gun crime capital of the world.
If more guns = more violence then how come:
Mexico has 15 guns/100 people and 9.97 murders per 100k people.
Jamaica 8.1 guns/100 people and 39.4 murders per 100k people.
Guatemala has 13.1 guns/100 people and 34 murders per 100k.
The US has 88.8 guns/100 people and 2.97 murders per 100k.
It's a myth. A lie. A fabrication. It's a ploy to try and pick one thing and blame it on crime, and take attention off of the more complicated and inconvenient factors.
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Look it does not matter what place and why
What matters is The fact that each country is dangerous to live in. Plain asLast edited by claud3; 11-05-2012 at 16:52.

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I have to vouch for him. If you deny guns to the people then those with guns will raise in power using fear as a foothold, skyrocketing the crime rate. Mexico has gun restrictions and right now it's a real bloodbath down there. I can tell you for a fact that it's gotten just as worse as the middle east. What can the people do to defend themselves?. Rely on the police?. That's rich.
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Don't these people know you never go full retard?
Also, rather Obama than this...

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No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
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? Stuff does happen, like the AWB. Def did happen under Clinton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...lt_Weapons_Ban
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Last edited by SHAZZMAZZ; 11-05-2012 at 17:53.
No matter what race you are or what you look like or your sexuality or where you come from, We are all the same people and we are all bothers & sisters so love each other & don't let anyone tell you any different.
Remember you can't choose what you are from birth but you can choose what you want to become.
Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they are not there we all got to have something to believe in.
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