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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    To the ones unattainable, to god the peace giver, send forth an army of great power, to crush the common man

    Spread the word of justice and the word of freedom. Dry the river of blood and fill it with joyful tears and destroy the black rainbow of chaos and color with one of love and happiness

    Just though I throw this in there

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    Ya what claud said
    Drive the evil out

    Hand in your guns to the police and become a better person
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAZZMAZZ View Post
    Ya what claud said
    Drive the evil out

    Hand in your guns to the police and become a better person
    What the hell have you spiked your tea with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAZZMAZZ View Post
    That why i proud to be English, the UK is not as violence as U.S.A. Yeah UK still has scumbags going around thinking they are gangsters but its good that the UK people just cant go into a gun shop and buy a gun
    This is a load of bull$#@!. The UK has more violent crime, robberies and muggings then the US does. You guys putting a draconian ban on firearms has done zilch to stifle crime.

    No serious study I've seen has ever concluded that England is a 'safer' because of its weapon ban.

    Why do I want to own guns? Because I like them, for self defense, for hunting\sport, because they retain value. Firearms are always a sound investment.

    The statement "Nobody should own guns but the police\military\government" is horrifying, because you're setting yourself up for complete abuse. US was founded on the idea that the people rule the nation, not its government. Government should serve us, and an armed population makes for a very respectful government.

    Not that we've been doing all that wonderful at retaining our 2nd amendment rights over the past century.





    So I guess you're proud of being misinformed?


    Another screwed up thing is that you guys count "murders" based on the number of murderers. So if one guy kills 8 people, that counts as "one murder" because one guy committed them. UK is notorious (even IN the UK, as noted by the BBC of all places) for stat padding their crime reports in order to put a happy spin on things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    This is a load of bull$#@!. The UK has more violent crime, robberies and muggings then the US does. You guys putting a draconian ban on firearms has done zilch to stifle crime.

    No serious study I've seen has ever concluded that England is a 'safer' because of its weapon ban.

    Why do I want to own guns? Because I like them, for self defense, for hunting\sport, because they retain value. Firearms are always a sound investment.

    The statement "Nobody should own guns but the police\military\government" is horrifying, because you're setting yourself up for complete abuse. US was founded on the idea that the people rule the nation, not its government. Government should serve us, and an armed population makes for a very respectful government.

    Not that we've been doing all that wonderful at retaining our 2nd amendment rights over the past century.





    So I guess you're proud of being misinformed?


    Another screwed up thing is that you guys count "murders" based on the number of murderers. So if one guy kills 8 people, that counts as "one murder" because one guy committed them. UK is notorious (even IN the UK, as noted by the BBC of all places) for stat padding their crime reports in order to put a happy spin on things.
    It not bull$#@! , the picture above is bull$#@! i see U.S.A not on the list bull$#@!

    Even if canada is on the list it still not true
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    Yea, it really is. UK is not 'safer' than the US and certainly not because of gun bans.

    A country having alot of crime is unrelated to firearms. There is a slight negative correlation with crime and a nation allowing weapon freedom (like .4% or something small) so at worst it can be said "banning weapons does absolutely nothing" at best you can say "it very slightly decreases crime".

    tldr; There is no convincing reason to ban guns.

    Ok Shazz, how about this:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...d-States/Crime

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tas-study.html


    How's that British utopia treating you?

    Proportionately, it's scary how close Britain is (or how it eclipses the US in quite a few) in regards to crime. We have a far larger population and more urban areas and you guys are literally right there lol.

    311 million people (US) vs 62 million (UK) and the majority of our population is centered on the coasts. So we have a ton of highly populated, dense, urban areas filled with a ton more people and you guys are as bad or worse then we are even in spite of this massive gap.

    And how about this chunk of data stating that even though the US has more guns per person IN THE WORLD (88/100) we're nowhere close to the top of gun crime\murders internationally?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

    We're like 27th. Or 2.97 per 100,000 people.

    More awesome "Britain being safer than US" cuz of gun banz or something, right?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2042216.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Yea, it really is. UK is not 'safer' than the US and certainly not because of gun bans.

    A country having alot of crime is unrelated to firearms. There is a slight negative correlation with crime and a nation allowing weapon freedom (like .4% or something small) so at worst it can be said "banning weapons does absolutely nothing" at best you can say "it very slightly decreases crime".

    tldr; There is no convincing reason to ban guns.

    Ok Shazz, how about this:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...d-States/Crime

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tas-study.html


    How's that British utopia treating you?

    Proportionately, it's scary how close Britain is (or how it eclipses the US in quite a few) in regards to crime. We have a far larger population and more urban areas and you guys are literally right there lol.

    311 million people (US) vs 62 million (UK) and the majority of our population is centered on the coasts. So we have a ton of highly populated, dense, urban areas filled with a ton more people and you guys are as bad or worse then we are even in spite of this massive gap.

    And how about this chunk of data stating that even though the US has more guns per person IN THE WORLD (88/100) we're nowhere close to the top of gun crime\murders internationally?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

    We're like 27th. Or 2.97 per 100,000 people.

    More awesome "Britain being safer than US" cuz of gun banz or something, right?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2042216.html
    U.S.A 27th i dont believe it and im getting bord now
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAZZMAZZ View Post
    U.S.A 27th i dont believe it and mine getting bord now
    You can "not believe" all you want. You're still wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    You can "not believe" all you want. You're still wrong.

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    No im not

    Anyways hew made that stupid picture let me gess number 27th
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    Guys guys relax, it's about taken the Mickey out of people over re-acting to a situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHAZZMAZZ View Post

    Anyways hew made that stupid picture let me gess number 27th
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    Guys guys relax, it's about taken the Mickey out of people over re-acting to a situation
    Ya i cant bebotherd with this but he saying UK is number 1st on the list and U.S.A number 27th
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    What? What I'm saying is that in spite of the US owning the most guns per person on the planet we're only number 27th on gun related crimes\homicides.

    That was as an aside sort of thing. Basically dispelling this myth that the US is gun crime capital of the world.

    If more guns = more violence then how come:

    Mexico has 15 guns/100 people and 9.97 murders per 100k people.
    Jamaica 8.1 guns/100 people and 39.4 murders per 100k people.
    Guatemala has 13.1 guns/100 people and 34 murders per 100k.

    The US has 88.8 guns/100 people and 2.97 murders per 100k.


    It's a myth. A lie. A fabrication. It's a ploy to try and pick one thing and blame it on crime, and take attention off of the more complicated and inconvenient factors.

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    Look it does not matter what place and why

    What matters is The fact that each country is dangerous to live in. Plain as
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    What? What I'm saying is that in spite of the US owning the most guns per person on the planet we're only number 27th on gun related crimes\homicides.

    That was as an aside sort of thing. Basically dispelling this myth that the US is gun crime capital of the world.

    If more guns = more violence then how come:

    Mexico has 15 guns/100 people and 9.97 murders per 100k people.
    Jamaica 8.1 guns/100 people and 39.4 murders per 100k people.
    Guatemala has 13.1 guns/100 people and 34 murders per 100k.

    The US has 88.8 guns/100 people and 2.97 murders per 100k.


    It's a myth. A lie. A fabrication. It's a ploy to try and pick one thing and blame it on crime, and take attention off of the more complicated and inconvenient factors.

    I have to vouch for him. If you deny guns to the people then those with guns will raise in power using fear as a foothold, skyrocketing the crime rate. Mexico has gun restrictions and right now it's a real bloodbath down there. I can tell you for a fact that it's gotten just as worse as the middle east. What can the people do to defend themselves?. Rely on the police?. That's rich.







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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    Look it does not matter what place and why

    What matters is The fact that each country is dangerous to live in. Plain as
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    Quote Originally Posted by FonFahbre View Post
    I have to vouch for him. If you deny guns to the people then those with guns will raise in power using fear as a foothold, skyrocketing the crime rate. Mexico has gun restrictions and right now it's a real bloodbath down there. I can tell you for a fact that it's gotten just as worse as the middle east. What can the people do to defend themselves?. Rely on the police?. That's rich.
    really the way i see it no 1 should have guns god whats happen to good old fists fights.

    guns should never been made

    if people are going to fight use your fists yeah LOL :
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    Don't these people know you never go full retard?

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    no not creepy they look nice peaceful respectful people thats how we should be
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    4. If Romney is elected as President, we are $#@!ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    1. If my sister was Jessica Alba, I would bang her.
    2. Gun owners always stock up every time a democrat is elected, yet nothing ever happens.
    3. That family photo of the Romney family is epic fail. Forcing uniforms on 47% of his family?
    4. If Romney is elected as President, we are $#@!ed.
    Hmm, nothing happened in 1994, right?

    #4: You are $#@!ed either way, better to choose the option that can actually accomplish some necessary changes rather than spinning wheels and burning money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    1. If my sister was Jessica Alba, I would bang her.
    2. Gun owners always stock up every time a democrat is elected, yet nothing ever happens.
    3. That family photo of the Romney family is epic fail. Forcing uniforms on 47% of his family?
    4. If Romney is elected as President, we are $#@!ed.
    ? Stuff does happen, like the AWB. Def did happen under Clinton.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...lt_Weapons_Ban


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    1. If my sister was Jessica Alba, I would bang her.
    2. Gun owners always stock up every time a democrat is elected, yet nothing ever happens.
    3. That family photo of the Romney family is epic fail. Forcing uniforms on 47% of his family?
    4. If Romney is elected as President, we are $#@!ed.
    i should be president then you all wont't no what hit ya lol kidding or my pet rabbit should U.S president vote for vanilla the rabbit
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