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    I own both Apple and Android products, both have their positives. Not the biggest fan of Apple atm but yeah, I don't blame them for trying to protect their product, no matter how petty and stupid I may think their practices are. Business is business..

    But really? Most smartphones are rectangle with rounded edges. What other shapes for a useful phone are there?.

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    Well I will stick to my low price android phone... I paid for my ACER LIQUID just £135 and I do everything with it and i would not change it for anything
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    Apple awarded patent on electronic rectangular products with rounded edges

    Your law teacher? Did he source this from PMA or AMA? Curious I'm a law major (criminal justice) never went into marketing law but from my understanding they are ways around it Samsung obviously gets away with it as well as car companies all the time.

    However that logic your referring to doesn't explain how samsung is allowed to reference the iphone in their commercial.

    Also keep in mind laws vary from Uk to the US in regards to these marketing laws
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    The patent filing, grant, etc., is filled with a LOT of info. The headlines, "Apple patents rectangle/round corners" is for hits, and skewed discussions. Kinda like how this one already went. See... the headlines normally don't actually go into detail other than a few images, absurd "title", and there ya have it.




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    Speaking of price, I've never paid more than 200 for a phone. Just swooped up an S3 and I5 for 200 bucks each. Can't see paying 6/700 for a phone. Where are you guys shopping?

    Edit: yeah I see what you're saying F34R..didn't read anything but what was in the thread. I'm sure it's more complicated than meets the eye.
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    I think it is funny how most of the replies are against Apple and saying their products suck lol. I think Dave even mentions that the iPad mini is stupid? Not sure why releasing a smaller version of the iPad is stupid?

    Apple makes fantastic products and I honestly do not see how anyone can deny that. Apple is about making money, like every other company out there. Apple has every right to try and patent as much as possible. Key word is "try". Someone had to grant them these patents and nobody is complaining about them. I think you guys love to hate on Apple so much that you are not even blaming the right people lol

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    I do not hate Apple. It's just a joke for what they do for some things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Finally some common sense in here! I swear people are getting dumber by the minute.

    Apple did not give themselves said patent, they were awarded the patent by the respective agency. If anything, go hate on them. Plus Samsung (or any other competitor for that matter) could easily do something similar if they were smart enough.

    This is called 'business' and you'd do the same if you had the chance.

    There is a reason why Apple is as successful as it is. Figure it out.
    You know, you don't need to resort to insults. I'm not going to call you a mindless drone or anything if you like Apple but there are plenty of people who dislike the company and I would think there's some credibility to their arguments, whether you want to see it or not. Writing it off as "just business" doesn't change the fact that it was a selfish move to file such a broad patent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    You know, you don't need to resort to insults. I'm not going to call you a mindless drone or anything if you like Apple but there are plenty of people who dislike the company and I would think there's some credibility to their arguments, whether you want to see it or not. Writing it off as "just business" doesn't change the fact that it was a selfish move to file such a broad patent.
    But didn't you read F3AR's comment?

    This patent is not as simple as it is made out to be by some over-dramatic headline. I'm sure the patent agency wouldn't have passed Apple's request otherwise.

    And sorry for resorting to insults but I can't stand it when people prematurely jump to conclusions when they absolutely know nothing but the story quoted in the OP.

    And Devious, I should have been more clear. I was referring to German commercial law, which might drastically differ from US law in certain aspects as you already pointed out.
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    Apple awarded patent on electronic rectangular products with rounded edges

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    But didn't you read F3AR's comment?

    This patent is not as simple as it is made out to be by some over-dramatic headline. I'm sure the patent agency wouldn't have passed Apple's request otherwise.

    And sorry for resorting to insults but I can't stand it when people prematurely jump to conclusions when they absolutely know nothing but the story quoted in the OP.

    And Devious, I should have been more clear. I was referring to German commercial law, which might drastically differ from US law in certain aspects as you already pointed out.
    Yea its cool I figured bro... Here in the states companies find ways to do it in suggestive way to slander their competition LOL Sega didnt care in the early 90's LOL

    Aggressive campaigning is high risk given the public view is important to big companies but with all this behavior from apple and headlines like this i dont see how aggressive marketing could hurt apple at this point lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooper71 View Post
    If memory serves right SONY had the range of k550 released 4 months BEFORE the original iPhone and motorola i'm sure had a similar shaped phone way before that
    Yeah you are right the k range from *10 up
    Which included the K810, k850 k550 and the Walkman range all started to be rounded with a silver edge on some models
    Though that was a few years before iPhone existed and my walkman was a slim metal rounded device with a chrome trim as was my old think plastic black one before "but without the trim"

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    Apple is already going down, they're the architects of their own destruction at this point, the only thing that kept them afloat this year was the momentum from last year's product cycle, but they pissed a huge number of their fans off with the ipad 4 (launched 7 months after ipad 3, as if 12 months wasn't a short enough cycle). It doesn't matter if they get a patent like this, because courts have already realized that Apple's cases are just corporate BS, so if they do more lawsuits, not only do they damage their own reputation further, they'll most likely lose, because the patent in question is too broad to actually be of any use in courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    But both are to blame. Apple for their eating up of the market and the other for doing what they doing

    Making it harder for others
    That's one of the primary motivations of every for-profit organization in the world. Can't blame Apple for being successful at it.


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    This is nothing new in the industry. There's nothing wrong with getting a 1up on your adversaries. I personally think it will cause a little innovation in the opponents.

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    This is funny and sad at the same time.

    Well done Apple and US Patent Office. I can hear the backslapping and mutual patting all the way here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knight View Post
    This is nothing new in the industry. There's nothing wrong with getting a 1up on your adversaries. I personally think it will cause a little innovation in the opponents.
    They've already been innovating. For decades in fact.

    Apple only stepped up with their suits because they felt they didn't have as many brainwashed folk locked up in terms of market share.

    Can't necessarily hate them for that (well you can but I don't blame people like Wrath for not - they're only speaking up for their loyalty - and that I can respect).

    But it is what is.
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    Why is "brainwashed" used for people that use Apple products?




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Why is "brainwashed" used for people that use Apple products?
    That's what I'm wondering. Seems to be a prominent excuse for liking the big guy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Sorry, but this negative image you speak off must be exclusive to hardcore internet forums like this one.

    Otherwise, we wouldn't see so many people buying iPhones over other smartphones or Apple becoming the world's first trillion dollar company. And please don't tell me now that the majority of Apple fans are mindless fools. This pathetic excuse has run its course.
    No, it's not something that happens over night, it takes time... just like it did with Microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Why is "brainwashed" used for people that use Apple products?
    Prob because of the FEW Apple fans that will indeed buy every new Apple product even if the release iphone 6 then 3 months later iphone 7 with one diff those people will buy it. But those are the hardcore Apple fans and really are a minority I have seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS3-The Ultimate Machine View Post
    Apple is already going down, they're the architects of their own destruction at this point,
    Did you come up with this conclusion from the iPhone 5's record breaking numbers?

    Poor Apple....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    That's what I'm wondering. Seems to be a prominent excuse for liking the big guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Why is "brainwashed" used for people that use Apple products?
    Not really reserved for Apple at all - it's really for anyone that decides based on the sheer marketing - i.e. cool factor, popularity, and "everyone else has one" mentality.

    Compare all the high end devices together; take away Apples marketing; and they're all pretty equal with their own pros and cons.

    Nothing wrong with that.

    The "brainwashed" I refer to, are those that turn their heads, cover their eyes and ears and make noises trying to convince others (and mostly themselves) that they are head and shoulders the "best" and no one is even close (same thing happens to these console forums of ours).

    No one has disputed that they aren't good products - so I don't know why that is even mentioned as a "counter-argument". They're just not the God of products or even the "best" for everyone or the only thing that people should use.

    We're all adult enough to understand each other's preference - as you can see by my post above and others posts also.

    My preference isn't any better than yours, nor yours over mine - my problem has always come from those who are "brainwashed" to always spout "MS this" or "Apple that" is king and rules above all (and will go into lengths to negate their "rivals").

    Those are whom I refer to as brainwashed - let's not get defensive here people.

    Really, if you have a problem with that stance, or this post at all - which hasn't talked ill of the 'great Apple' at all - then I really don't know what else to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Not really reserved for Apple at all - it's really for anyone that decides based on the sheer marketing - i.e. cool factor, popularity, and "everyone else has one" mentality.

    Compare all the high end devices together; take away Apples marketing; and they're all pretty equal with their own pros and cons.

    Nothing wrong with that.

    The "brainwashed" I refer to, are those that turn their heads, cover their eyes and ears and make noises trying to convince others (and mostly themselves) that they are head and shoulders the "best" and no one is even close (same thing happens to these console forums of ours).

    No one has disputed that they aren't good products - so I don't know why that is even mentioned as a "counter-argument". They're just not the God of products or even the "best" for everyone or the only thing that people should use.

    We're all adult enough to understand each other's preference - as you can see by my post above and others posts also.

    My preference isn't any better than yours, nor yours over mine - my problem has always come from those who are "brainwashed" to always spout "MS this" or "Apple that" is king and rules above all (and will go into lengths to negate their "rivals").

    Those are whom I refer to as brainwashed - let's not get defensive here people.

    Really, if you have a problem with that stance, or this post at all - which hasn't talked ill of the 'great Apple' at all - then I really don't know what else to say.
    I see, that terms is for any product then... I gotcha. I've never met anyone, or "heard" them say that it's the best, and for everyone, etc. I'm the only one in a household of four smart phones, that has any Apple products. I'm the only one who wanted to try it, and has liked what I use it for.

    Also, I didn't think you were talking about anyone in particular... just wanted to know what the generalization was used for towards Apple, on these forums, when it's the same type of behavior we see across all brands, but never see the term used except for Apple lol.




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