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    Apple awarded patent on electronic rectangular products with rounded edges

    There's been a lot of talk over the last couple of years — especially by Samsung during the course of its recent patent infringement trial — that Apple has obtained design patent coverage on rectangular devices with rounded corners. While that may not have been true before, it is now. The US Patent and Trademark Office issued patent no. D670,286 to Apple yesterday and it really does cover the outer edge shape of a device. There's no other way to look at it.
    As we've explained before, the scope of a design patent is defined by the drawings, and the solid lines are what counts —the dashed lines are just there for context. As you can see below, the 'D286 patent has a lot of gratuitous context but just a single solid line defining what is being protected.


    Previous design patents on the iPad and iPhone have included at least one additional feature in solid lines — like the home button, the back surface contour, the bezel shape,the side profile, or the edge-to-edge screen. This one ignores all of that and simply focuses on the shape of that peripheral edge. It's a broad patent. Really broad. Granted, an argument can be made that the horizontal and vertical lengths of the solid edge line in the drawings limits the patent coverage to a specific proportional design that excludes tablets with different aspect ratios, but you wouldn't want that to be your primary defense.
    IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A PATENT TO BE TOO BROAD TO ACTUALLY USE
    Will Apple ever use this patent against its competitors? Maybe, but there's an inherent downside to asserting a patent like this: it's vulnerable to invalidity arguments. The narrower a patent is the harder it is to find prior art devices or publications that have everything you need to knock it out. Conversely, the broader the patent the easier it is to come up with something that a judge or jury (or even the patent office) can use to invalidate it. Even though Apple submitted hundreds of prior art documents while this patent was being reviewed by the USPTO, it sure feels like a weapon too fragile for battle. It could very well just be a let's-see-what-we-can-get patent with no real offensive future. We'll see.
    http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/7/36...ounded-corners

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    Apple is such a joke. Pathetic bunch of $#@!suckers.

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    Apple continues to create reasons for me to further dislike them.

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    They are the bad Apple in the bunch.... to big to fail and to big to care, that's their saying
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    Just another facet of their arrogance. Currently got an iPad and iPhone 4S. On Tuesday, I'm buying the new Nexus 4 and moving away from Apple. Will think about the Nexus 10 or other competitor tablet in due course.

    I just don't like how they're operating nowadays with these ludicrous patents and obscene amounts of litigation.

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    So that means that other companies like samsung cant create rectangular products with rounded edges? If so this is pathetic and just patents shouldnt even be given away to somebody, especially to somebody like Apple.

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    Apple isn't to blame here. The agency that granted the patent is the "crook". Nothing wrong with companies patenting things, designing, etc. I mean, they do it for profit, ya know... companies wanna make money at times.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Apple isn't to blame here. The agency that granted the patent is the "crook". Nothing wrong with companies patenting things, designing, etc. I mean, they do it for profit, ya know... companies wanna make money at times.
    Finally some common sense in here! I swear people are getting dumber by the minute.

    Apple did not give themselves said patent, they were awarded the patent by the respective agency. If anything, go hate on them. Plus Samsung (or any other competitor for that matter) could easily do something similar if they were smart enough.

    This is called 'business' and you'd do the same if you had the chance.

    There is a reason why Apple is as successful as it is. Figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Finally some common sense in here! I swear people are getting dumber by the minute.

    Apple did not give themselves said patent, they were awarded the patent by the respective agency. If anything, go hate on them. Plus Samsung (or any other competitor for that matter) could easily do something similar if they were smart enough.

    This is called 'business' and you'd do the same if you had the chance.

    There is a reason why Apple is as successful as it is. Figure it out.
    Sure, Apple is taking full advantage of a system that is skewed to the largest companies that have the capital to patent and litigate, but doesn't mean they get away without any negative impact.

    Are they playing by the rules, maybe/probably, but the negative image they create for themselves by being bullies is deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weskurtz81 View Post
    Sure, Apple is taking full advantage of a system that is skewed to the largest companies that have the capital to patent and litigate, but doesn't mean they get away without any negative impact.

    Are they playing by the rules, maybe/probably, but the negative image they create for themselves by being bullies is deserved.
    Sorry, but this negative image you speak off must be exclusive to hardcore internet forums like this one.

    Otherwise, we wouldn't see so many people buying iPhones over other smartphones or Apple becoming the world's first trillion dollar company. And please don't tell me now that the majority of Apple fans are mindless fools. This pathetic excuse has run its course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Sorry, but this negative image you speak off must be exclusive to hardcore internet forums like this one.

    Otherwise, we wouldn't see so many people buying iPhones over other smartphones or Apple becoming the world's first trillion dollar company. And please don't tell me now that the majority of Apple fans are mindless fools. This pathetic excuse has run its course.
    No, it's not something that happens over night, it takes time... just like it did with Microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Finally some common sense in here! I swear people are getting dumber by the minute.

    Apple did not give themselves said patent, they were awarded the patent by the respective agency. If anything, go hate on them. Plus Samsung (or any other competitor for that matter) could easily do something similar if they were smart enough.

    This is called 'business' and you'd do the same if you had the chance.

    There is a reason why Apple is as successful as it is. Figure it out.
    You know, you don't need to resort to insults. I'm not going to call you a mindless drone or anything if you like Apple but there are plenty of people who dislike the company and I would think there's some credibility to their arguments, whether you want to see it or not. Writing it off as "just business" doesn't change the fact that it was a selfish move to file such a broad patent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    You know, you don't need to resort to insults. I'm not going to call you a mindless drone or anything if you like Apple but there are plenty of people who dislike the company and I would think there's some credibility to their arguments, whether you want to see it or not. Writing it off as "just business" doesn't change the fact that it was a selfish move to file such a broad patent.
    But didn't you read F3AR's comment?

    This patent is not as simple as it is made out to be by some over-dramatic headline. I'm sure the patent agency wouldn't have passed Apple's request otherwise.

    And sorry for resorting to insults but I can't stand it when people prematurely jump to conclusions when they absolutely know nothing but the story quoted in the OP.

    And Devious, I should have been more clear. I was referring to German commercial law, which might drastically differ from US law in certain aspects as you already pointed out.
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    Apple awarded patent on electronic rectangular products with rounded edges

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    But didn't you read F3AR's comment?

    This patent is not as simple as it is made out to be by some over-dramatic headline. I'm sure the patent agency wouldn't have passed Apple's request otherwise.

    And sorry for resorting to insults but I can't stand it when people prematurely jump to conclusions when they absolutely know nothing but the story quoted in the OP.

    And Devious, I should have been more clear. I was referring to German commercial law, which might drastically differ from US law in certain aspects as you already pointed out.
    Yea its cool I figured bro... Here in the states companies find ways to do it in suggestive way to slander their competition LOL Sega didnt care in the early 90's LOL

    Aggressive campaigning is high risk given the public view is important to big companies but with all this behavior from apple and headlines like this i dont see how aggressive marketing could hurt apple at this point lol
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    But both are to blame. Apple for their eating up of the market and the other for doing what they doing

    Making it harder for others
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    But both are to blame. Apple for their eating up of the market and the other for doing what they doing

    Making it harder for others
    That's one of the primary motivations of every for-profit organization in the world. Can't blame Apple for being successful at it.


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    as much as that article wants you to believe it, it's to vague of a patent to actually stick. All this is, is a "can we get away with this when we bring someone to court". This wont stick and when it goes to court apple will be a laughing stock. they kind of already are but even more so then.

    seems to me that the panzies at Apple are still sour over their failed samsung lawsuit. lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoggy View Post
    as much as that article wants you to believe it, it's to vague of a patent to actually stick. All this is, is a "can we get away with this when we bring someone to court". This wont stick and when it goes to court apple will be a laughing stock. they kind of already are but even more so then.

    seems to me that the panzies at Apple are still sour over their failed samsung lawsuit. lolz
    Your are right that it probably wouldn't stick, and it's probably no big deal for Samsung to put the lawyers to work, but what about when Apple uses one of these broad patents on an unsuspecting little guy? They just drives them right out of business!
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    Like everyone that posted before me. This is just sad and pathetic!!! I've never owned and would never in the future own an Apple product

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    Apple should've fallen long ago, the sad thing is a lot of their followers are mindless drones ready to give up their money for anything. I mean iPad mini..seriously, the stupidest thing ever yet people still lapped it up.

    Apple could make a product called iRape or iKill and it would still sell millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-The-Rave View Post
    Apple should've fallen long ago, the sad thing is a lot of their followers are mindless drones ready to give up their money for anything. I mean iPad mini..seriously, the stupidest thing ever yet people still lapped it up.

    Apple could make a product called iRape or iKill and it would still sell millions.
    They think its unfair that a newer ipad came out only a few months after the previous as if they have to buy it by law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-The-Rave View Post
    Apple should've fallen long ago, the sad thing is a lot of their followers are mindless drones ready to give up their money for anything. I mean iPad mini..seriously, the stupidest thing ever yet people still lapped it up.

    Apple could make a product called iRape or iKill and it would still sell millions.
    Your comment isn't any better than the assumption you made. If YOU don't like it, then don't buy it. Generalizing people that would actually use it isn't excusable. Ya know.. like Samsung has the 10.1" tablet, and the 7" one. How about Asus Transformer Prime, and the Nexus 7, made by Asus? How about Sony making a 10" tablet, and the smaller version with two screens... cmon.
    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    They think its unfair that a newer ipad came out only a few months after the previous as if they have to buy it by law.
    OR, that they bought an inferior device, hardware wise, only a few months ago.... just like a lot of people have been pissed at Google for releasing a new Nexus 7 with double storage, for the same price, just a few months after releasing the "launch" device. The 16GB gets dropped in price. It pisses people off when this happens.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-The-Rave View Post
    Apple should've fallen long ago, the sad thing is a lot of their followers are mindless drones ready to give up their money for anything. I mean iPad mini..seriously, the stupidest thing ever yet people still lapped it up.

    Apple could make a product called iRape or iKill your wallet and it would still sell millions.
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    Erm does this mean the Samsung Galaxy phones will need to change?

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