Bad Port or Bad Hardware? (Update: Confirmed slow CPU)

[mynd]

Well aint there plenty of ps3/360 comparisims of it out already. I would assume you could get inference from them.

I haven't followed this much, but i assume there are minimal
Ps3/360 differences? Dunno.

[F34R]

Well aint there plenty of ps3/360 comparisims of it out already. I would assume you could get inference from them.

I haven't followed this much, but i assume there are minimal
Ps3/360 differences? Dunno.

I'd rather not infer it without some actual evidence; having a wii u vs 360 comparison would work.


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[itachi73378]

There's not much difference between 360 and ps3. At this stage in console cycle you literally have to count pixels to know the difference

EDIT: dat colour saturation on PC

[F34R]

There's not much difference between 360 and ps3. At this stage in console cycle you literally have to count pixels to know the difference

EDIT: dat colour saturation on PC

It isn't necessarily about pixel counting to get a resolution number. It also has to do with frame rates, screen tearing, lighting effects, etc. In still pictures, maybe you can't tell the difference.. however, playing the two games, you can tell that one has a lower frame rate vs the other, etc.

Got my Wii U at home. Now I have to find a damned AC3 game for it.

[itachi73378]

It isn't necessarily about pixel counting to get a resolution number. It also has to do with frame rates, screen tearing, lighting effects, etc. In still pictures, maybe you can't tell the difference.. however, playing the two games, you can tell that one has a lower frame rate vs the other, etc.

Got my Wii U at home. Now I have to find a damned AC3 game for it.

I'd like to argue the opposite, that you can note down differences in shadow colour dept, missing light sources and texture resolutions (how minimal their differences are) in screenshots but you can't tell while playing a game in real time (unless the port is horrible like ME3) 2012 games have so similar performance levels that I'm surprised how good the devs have gotten using the ps3

[Noxia]

Not complaining, just bored.

Not surprised. Must be boring arguing over pixels for for the last 4 years and telling people why they shouldn't like something

[mynd]

Not surprised. Must be boring arguing over pixels for for the last 4 years and telling people why they shouldn't like something

Dunno, only the weak minded would take another persons opinion as Gospel.
I was actually referring to the Nintendo system being boring.

[Noxia]

True. Makes it a complete waste of energy and time arguing the toss then.

[mynd]

Well it would be a boring world if we were all blind robots

[F34R]

I'd like to argue the opposite, that you can note down differences in shadow colour dept, missing light sources and texture resolutions (how minimal their differences are) in screenshots but you can't tell while playing a game in real time (unless the port is horrible like ME3) 2012 games have so similar performance levels that I'm surprised how good the devs have gotten using the ps3

That's why I said "Maybe you can't tell the difference..." MAYBE.

I'll be recording game play on all three, and try and make sure everything is done in the time and locations.... we'll see soon enough I guess.

[Lethal_NFS]

That's why I said "Maybe you can't tell the difference..." MAYBE.

I'll be recording game play on all three, and try and make sure everything is done in the time and locations.... we'll see soon enough I guess.

You will get mad reppage for this.

[F34R]

I'm on my way to wal mart to pick up the game for Wii U now.

[Fijiandoce]

That's why I said "Maybe you can't tell the difference..." MAYBE.

I'll be recording game play on all three, and try and make sure everything is done in the time and locations.... we'll see soon enough I guess.

Open world games are CPU intensive; please try arkham city, its the only openish type world on the WiiU!

i will REPAGGE!!!

[Noxia]

Well it would be a boring world if we were all blind robots

There'd always be someone telling you what and how you should be seeing things

[F34R]

I finally got home lol. I have AC3 now, and I'll be setting everything up in a little bit.

[radgamer420]

There'd always be someone telling you what and how you should be seeing things

Kind of like internet gaming forums. lol

[F34R]

I'll have some footage sometime today, but my PS3 isn't cooperating. I'm working on that part. I had to spend a LOT of time last night, about eight hours, fixing my damn laptop that I would be using for video capture and editing. ffs, last night was a chore to say the least. Hopefully I get it all sorted today.

[Lethal_NFS]

A good video in the link of side by side action of BLOPS2 comparing the PS3 and Wii U. The hardware of the Wii U is no issue.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/call...mparison-video

[F34R]

A good video in the link of side by side action of BLOPS2 comparing the PS3 and Wii U. The hardware of the Wii U is no issue.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/call...mparison-video

I'll agree with the visual aspect of it. How about the online play? lol How many people play the campaign ?

[mynd]

A good video in the link of side by side action of BLOPS2 comparing the PS3 and Wii U. The hardware of the Wii U is no issue.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/call...mparison-video

Blops is a game that hardly pushes anything. Not a game i would expect to push anything.

Its about as low a standard as you can get. Modified quake 4 engine specifically designed not to push visuals in fabour of frame rate.

[itachi73378]

A good video in the link of side by side action of BLOPS2 comparing the PS3 and Wii U. The hardware of the Wii U is no issue.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/call...mparison-video

Frame rate analysis puts it a consistent 10fps lower than ps3 generally
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...wii-u-face-off

[F34R]

Yep, that's what I thought it was going to be. I knew it looked like the 360, as closely as it can, but I didn't think the framerate would be holding to a better standard than the other two consoles.

[Lethal_NFS]

Blops is a game that hardly pushes anything. Not a game i would expect to push anything.

Its about as low a standard as you can get. Modified quake 4 engine specifically designed not to push visuals in fabour of frame rate.

And yet the PS3 is the worst looking title. I knew you were going to come in here and knock the comparison as you seem to constantly knock the Wii U at all turns. However, this is still a port, and a better looking port than that of the PS3. The frame rate issues could be due to it being a port. There are many other ports on the Wii U that do not suffer from this.

AC3 is once again a great example. Looks and runs better on the Wii U. The Wii U has not horsepower issues as it can easily run with the best of them, if not better.

Right now the issue is bringing non ports to the Wii U. That is where the console will shine.

[mynd]

And yet the PS3 is the worst looking title. I knew you were going to come in here and knock the comparison as you seem to constantly knock the Wii U at all turns. However, this is still a port, and a better looking port than that of the PS3. The frame rate issues could be due to it being a port. There are many other ports on the Wii U that do not suffer from this.

AC3 is once again a great example. Looks and runs better on the Wii U. The Wii U has not horsepower issues as it can easily run with the best of them, if not better.

Right now the issue is bringing non ports to the Wii U. That is where the console will shine.

You will choose what you want to believe. I cant change that, but I can voice my concern at this console, based on the evidence presented.

I cant predict what will happen in the future with this console and hardcore games, but as far as I'm concerned its already starting at a severe disadvantage.

I believe you seem to think we are knocking it because it is "worse" than current consoles. Nobody is saying that.
We are suggesting it aint whole hell of lot, if at all, more powerful.

[Lethal_NFS]

We are suggesting it aint whole hell of lot, if at all, more powerful.

It never claimed to be either. Even if it is exactly as powerful as the other consoles, it still offers things the other consoles can't. But the hardware is not an issue for the console. It is an issue for gamers bored of their PS3 and 360 and want super amazing future graphics. The Wii U is not that and now people are complaining that Nintendo is not their savior. However it is a savior to those that were hanging on to their Wii's hoping for a new HD Wii to come out.