Bad Port or Bad Hardware? (Update: Confirmed slow CPU)

[mynd]

Well this speaks to lethal point if you dont care and arent providing facts then you are just bashing something for the sake of bashing it.

But your wrong a wii mote strap doesnt come with the Gamepad

Nobody has to like it other than me since i own one but if im going to make a comment bashing something i'll have some facts to back it up at the very least.

Well your not much of a salesman lol
Go on convince me!

@lethal, people are going to compare it to a tablet because thats the nearest thing they can think of.

And thats perhaps a hurdle for Nintendo. They are going to have a hard time to convince people this brings a something a tablet doesn't.

Im not convinced the ability on supported titles to hold the pad up to the screen and get some sort of secondary action, or the ability "mess with" another player (or any if those ds like secondary screen functions) are enough to convince people they would like this device.

[Typical guy]

Do u own a wii u or is this based on what you "read" the game pad isn't a tablet and has features tablets don't. Why people assume its a tablet is beyond me especially if u can post on a forum u can google the facts and features of the gamepad...cmon

Right, I've read it isn't a real tablet because you can't take it with you on the road and use it via your family member's WiFi at their house to surf the web, log into your bank account, etc. My understanding is that it streams data from the Wii U which does all the work.

Well your not much of a salesman lol
Go on convince me!

@lethal, people are going to compare it to a tablet because thats the nearest thing they can think of.

And thats perhaps a hurdle for Nintendo. They are going to have a hard time to convince people this brings a something a tablet doesn't.

Im not convinced the ability on supported titles to hold the pad up to the screen and get some sort of secondary action, or the ability "mess with" another player (or any if those ds like secondary screen functions) are enough to convince people they would like this device.

Well it's either a tablet or it isn't. If it is a tablet, it's a piece of garbage compared to real tablets. I have to wonder if people here have used a real tablet if they think something that's tethered to the Wii U is as good as a Nexus 7 or iPad. If it isn't an iPad then it's a glorified bottom DS screen or Dreamcast controller.

[DeviousOne]

That's the thing unless u've really tooled with it its not a DS bottom screen of vmu from the dreamcast. The only thing I use the gamepad for outside of the wii U console is use it as a universal remote for other tv's in my house.

The console does all the work when browsing on the gampad. Which is pretty fast I was pleasantly surprised with that honestly. The only standalone thing the gamepad does is a tv remote.

I have a tv in my guest room I can't find the remote for so I just use the gamepad lol Its an older tv.

[Typical guy]

That's the thing unless u've really tooled with it its not a DS bottom screen of vmu from the dreamcast. The only thing I use the gamepad for outside of the wii U console is use it as a universal remote for other tv's in my house.

The console does all the work when browsing on the gampad. Which is pretty fast I was pleasantly surprised with that honestly. The only standalone thing the gamepad does is a tv remote.

I have a tv in my guest room I can't find the remote for so I just use the gamepad lol Its an older tv.

How is it different from a DS bottom screen? I mean, why didn't they just pack in a 3DS instead of this tablet controller? Consumers would have had a functional game system that worked away from the Wii U and it would have increased the install base of the 3DS and the 3DS is only $130 at Best Buy/Target which is cheaper to manufacture than the tablet.

[F34R]

How is it different from a DS bottom screen? I mean, why didn't they just pack in a 3DS instead of this tablet controller? Consumers would have had a functional game system that worked away from the Wii U and it would have increased the install base of the 3DS and the 3DS is only $130 at Best Buy/Target which is cheaper to manufacture than the tablet.

Well, use the dsi/3ds and the wii u, and it'll be fairly easy to see what the difference is.

[DeviousOne]

Well your not much of a salesman lol
Go on convince me!

@lethal, people are going to compare it to a tablet because thats the nearest thing they can think of.

And thats perhaps a hurdle for Nintendo. They are going to have a hard time to convince people this brings a something a tablet doesn't.

Im not convinced the ability on supported titles to hold the pad up to the screen and get some sort of secondary action, or the ability "mess with" another player (or any if those ds like secondary screen functions) are enough to convince people they would like this device.

Lmao I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a wii U I love it doesn't mean the next person will. Really depends on your situation if the wii u would benefit you as much as it does me at the end of the day.

I had a conversation last night with a good friend of mine he was asking me about the wii u and his understanding was so what the hell is it a tablet so you need 4 to play with it and its in HD? Now he's not a gamer he has a wii and kids so they game with the wii. After trying to explain it I was like you know what just come to my house bring the kids and you'll see lmao.

Nintendo has done a horrible job marketing this thing and trying to explain the difference in experience. I think with more time and more people playing it they will move more units Nintendo does a decent job of demonstrating how the gamepad can be a part of gameplay but its not an instant understanding like it was with wii sports and the wii.

To each their own at the end of the day. I respect anyone gaming preference in console or type of gaming.

[DeviousOne]

Well, use the dsi/3ds and the wii u, and it'll be fairly easy to see what the difference is.

To add to f34r point you have to use both I have a 3ds and a Wii U they are vastly different in their capabilities and what they are used for.

[Typical guy]

Lmao I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a wii U I love it doesn't mean the next person will. Really depends on your situation if the wii u would benefit you as much as it does me at the end of the day.

I had a conversation last night with a good friend of mine he was asking me about the wii u and his understanding was so what the hell is it a tablet so you need 4 to play with it and its in HD? Now he's not a gamer he has a wii and kids so they game with the wii. After trying to explain it I was like you know what just come to my house bring the kids and you'll see lmao.

Nintendo has done a horrible job marketing this thing and trying to explain the difference in experience. I think with more time and more people playing it they will move more units Nintendo does a decent job of demonstrating how the gamepad can be a part of gameplay but its not an instant understanding like it was with wii sports and the wii.

To each their own at the end of the day. I respect anyone gaming preference in console or type of gaming.

Well, I'm a gamer and I don't get it. I just don't see how the general public will. I'm not into playing the demo stations at stores and everything I know about Wii U is from the net. I think a lot of gamers are like this, especially adults.

[F34R]

Well, I'm a gamer and I don't get it. I just don't see how the general public will. I'm not into playing the demo stations at stores and everything I know about Wii U is from the net. I think a lot of gamers are like this, especially adults.

The general public will see it as a game system that has a screen in controller.

[Cybertox]

The problem in Nintendo consoles is their hardware capabilities.

[Typical guy]

The general public will see it as a game system that has a tablet controller.

Right but is that something they want? What happens when they realize it lacks most tablet functions?

[Lethal_NFS]

@lethal, people are going to compare it to a tablet because thats the nearest thing they can think of.

To me, the nearest thing would be a Vita or a 3DS.... In no way is the gamepad in the same category as a tablet.

[DeviousOne]

I also have no idea how nintendo would be able to translate what the wii u does to the public I didn't get it until I got my hands on it to be honest lol...

[Nitey]

Despite Nintendos horrible job at translating what the eff this thing is, the launch numbers are pretty damn good to me.

[DeviousOne]

For sure solid numbers we'll see how it does after the holiday season. They need to drop a Zelda title soon hopefully a new metroid! Those games incorporated with the gamepad would be awesome. I'm finding myself at a place I'm needing more games I'm on the fence about zombiU still outside of that nothing I'm dying to play. Thank god for my ps3 and 3ds they keep me busy lol

[Nitey]

Yeah man, they haven't really shown what else major is coming to the system for the next year. Hopefully they do at some point soon. I'm talking 1st party, cos it seems most 3rd party are on the fence atm

[Lethal_NFS]

Yeah man, they haven't really shown what else major is coming to the system for the next year. Hopefully they do at some point soon. I'm talking 1st party, cos it seems most 3rd party are on the fence atm

A list of games will take time. Even the Vita which has been out for 9 months now, does not hardly have a list for 2013.

[DeviousOne]

E3 this year is gonna be huge!

[justintheman87]

All that matters is if there are great games to play on the system, plain and simple. You need to look past add-ons, hardware specs, features, etc. Currently the Wii U doesn't offer a lot for games, but keep in mind it isn't even a month old yet. They will come in time, and we are bound to see the same loveable Nintendo characters we have seen over many generations.

It bothers me a bit that hardware specs are so concerning for many. Frankly I could care less, as eye candy is the least of my worries when buying/playing a game. The only factor for me is "Is the game fun to play?".

[Typical guy]

All that matters is if there are great games to play on the system, plain and simple. You need to look past add-ons, hardware specs, features, etc. Currently the Wii U doesn't offer a lot for games, but keep in mind it isn't even a month old yet. They will come in time, and we are bound to see the same loveable Nintendo characters we have seen over many generations.

It bothers me a bit that hardware specs are so concerning for many. Frankly I could care less, as eye candy is the least of my worries when buying/playing a game. The only factor for me is "Is the game fun to play?".

Based on your avatar, I think you'd agree. They should put out an Earthbound HD.

[DeviousOne]

All that matters is if there are great games to play on the system, plain and simple. You need to look past add-ons, hardware specs, features, etc. Currently the Wii U doesn't offer a lot for games, but keep in mind it isn't even a month old yet. They will come in time, and we are bound to see the same loveable Nintendo characters we have seen over many generations.

It bothers me a bit that hardware specs are so concerning for many. Frankly I could care less, as eye candy is the least of my worries when buying/playing a game. The only factor for me is "Is the game fun to play?".

Agreed! Right now its mostly ports but im looking forward to what nintendo will be offering in the future E3 is gonna be important for EVERY comapny MS and sony as well we are expecting big things from them

[Blacksite]

All that matters is if there are great games to play on the system, plain and simple. You need to look past add-ons, hardware specs, features, etc. Currently the Wii U doesn't offer a lot for games, but keep in mind it isn't even a month old yet. They will come in time, and we are bound to see the same loveable Nintendo characters we have seen over many generations.

It bothers me a bit that hardware specs are so concerning for many. Frankly I could care less, as eye candy is the least of my worries when buying/playing a game. The only factor for me is "Is the game fun to play?".

It's a reasonable jump in visual fidelity for Nintendo consumers. It's not the best, sure, because PS3 and Xbox 360 gamers have been seeing it for 6-7 years now but it'll be the exclusives that define the overall experience and we have yet to see the next Metroid, The Legend of Zelda, 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros. etc.

[Typical guy]

So...do all Wii U games use the game pad or do some just use the wiimotes?

[F34R]

So...do all Wii U games use the game pad or do some just use the wiimotes?

Yes. They all use it to some degree.

[Lethal_NFS]

So...do all Wii U games use the game pad or do some just use the wiimotes?

The Wiimotes are not required for any Wii U titles. Those are mostly for the original Wii games. However, I know some games, like NSMBU, does let you use Wiimotes.

Some games like ZombiU, require you to use the gamepad. Assassin's Creed uses the gamepad to display the hud, but you can use a pro controller if you want. Right now, the only games that require the gamepad, that I know of, are ZombiU, and Nintendo Land. The Rabbids game might, but I am not sure.