Bad Port or Bad Hardware? (Update: Confirmed slow CPU)

[F34R]

Yup, in terms of consumer "bang for your buck" it is terrible.
This is, form what I can see, a last gen system emulated as close as they could with todays tech.

... the most accurate post in the thread.

[Lethal_NFS]

The problem is that you guys are constantly comparing it to the other consoles. Compared to Nintendo's last console, this is a huge leap, and a bigger leap for Nintendo exclusives. The Wii U does what other consoles can do graphically. Everyone claimed how the Wii had good games but looked so bad, nobody wanted to play them. Now that it is here, people are still crying. And if you want Mario, Metroid, or Zelda games in HD, well now you will be able to have that.

I think this is a great console for the price. Especially with what I can do with it. Is this the console of the future? Of course not, nor did anyone ever claim that it would be.

You want super duper amazing graphics? Wait for the PS4 or next Xbox then. Want your Nintendo games in HD? Get the Wii U.

[mynd]

What everyone above me said.

Economy of words there, bare minimum to get by infact.

You work for Ninty?

[F34R]

The problem is that you guys are constantly comparing it to the other consoles. Compared to Nintendo's last console, this is a huge leap, and a bigger leap for Nintendo exclusives. The Wii U does what other consoles can do graphically. Everyone claimed how the Wii had good games but looked so bad, nobody wanted to play them. Now that it is here, people are still crying. And if you want Mario, Metroid, or Zelda games in HD, well now you will be able to have that.

I think this is a great console for the price. Especially with what I can do with it. Is this the console of the future? Of course not, nor did anyone ever claim that it would be.

You want super duper amazing graphics? Wait for the PS4 or next Xbox then. Want your Nintendo games in HD? Get the Wii U.

That's definitely what I got it for, and will probably get it again. If I can get past the ID and content locks.

[BoyBettaKnow]

The problem is that you guys are constantly comparing it to the other consoles. Compared to Nintendo's last console, this is a huge leap, and a bigger leap for Nintendo exclusives. The Wii U does what other consoles can do graphically. Everyone claimed how the Wii had good games but looked so bad, nobody wanted to play them. Now that it is here, people are still crying. And if you want Mario, Metroid, or Zelda games in HD, well now you will be able to have that.

I think this is a great console for the price. Especially with what I can do with it. Is this the console of the future? Of course not, nor did anyone ever claim that it would be.

You want super duper amazing graphics? Wait for the PS4 or next Xbox then. Want your Nintendo games in HD? Get the Wii U.

Everything in bold i agree 100% with.

All i know is that i'll finally be getting my hands on a HD Zelda. That alone is more impressive to me than the thought of what either the NextBox or PS4 can do.

[mynd]

The problem is that you guys are constantly comparing it to the other consoles.

That would be because its competing in the same space, something the Wii did not have to do until Kinect and Move came along last gen.

Compared to Nintendo's last console, this is a huge leap, and a bigger leap for Nintendo exclusives. The Wii U does what other consoles can do graphically. Everyone claimed how the Wii had good games but looked so bad, nobody wanted to play them. Now that it is here, people are still crying. And if you want Mario, Metroid, or Zelda games in HD, well now you will be able to have that.

The multi-deivce is here, it aint going anywhere, console, dedicated to games only are dead.
Yes here is you Hi def Zelda, but its very late to the party.

I think this is a great console for the price. Especially with what I can do with it. Is this the console of the future? Of course not, nor did anyone ever claim that it would be.

It has to compete in a mature market, and brings very little to the market the other consoles cannot do, and in fact do better in most cases.

You want super duper amazing graphics? Wait for the PS4 or next Xbox then. Want your Nintendo games in HD? Get the Wii U.

And that, unfortunately would be all you would want it for.

Consoles need to excite on launch, especially given the mature market we have. Very little new is being offered here to excite people.

Yes people will buy it for Ninty games.

But that's not why the Wii was a success for Ninty.
To compete in this market these days..you need to bring an A game

Sony and MS are certainly going to be bringing the best they possibly can

[Vulgotha]

Economy of words there, bare minimum to get by infact.

You work for Ninty?

[Rapture]

The problem is that you guys are constantly comparing it to the other consoles. Compared to Nintendo's last console, this is a huge leap, and a bigger leap for Nintendo exclusives. The Wii U does what other consoles can do graphically. Everyone claimed how the Wii had good games but looked so bad, nobody wanted to play them. Now that it is here, people are still crying. And if you want Mario, Metroid, or Zelda games in HD, well now you will be able to have that.

I think this is a great console for the price. Especially with what I can do with it. Is this the console of the future? Of course not, nor did anyone ever claim that it would be.

You want super duper amazing graphics? Wait for the PS4 or next Xbox then. Want your Nintendo games in HD? Get the Wii U.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the system in and of itself is terrible. It completes its intended function, certainly. But it's a bit of a drawback to not compare it to its competitors. The fact remains that, given its time of release and pricing, the general internal hardware it poorly chosen in design or specifically weak. Those are extremely legitimate concerns and criticisms that should be pointed out and held against the system. I'm sorry, but nothing you can say will circumnavigate that property of reality.

I'm too look forward to some solid HD Nintendo releases. I bet they'll be fun, and I'm interested because now, at least, my eyes won't bleed from the standard definition graphics. But that doesn't exempt the console from its intrinsic foibles.

[Lethal_NFS]

I don't know, I guess I am happy with this console more than others because I knew what not to expect. In fact, the console exceeded my expectations with this gamepad alone. It is not my primary gaming console, and that is how I look at it. I think Nintendo is headed on the right track though. Even if they are behind Sony and Microsoft.

[F34R]

I don't know, I guess I am happy with this console more than others because I knew what not to expect. In fact, the console exceeded my expectations with this gamepad alone. It is not my primary gaming console, and that is how I look at it. I think Nintendo is headed on the right track though. Even if they are behind Sony and Microsoft.

I'm right with you on that... except the other parts. Content and ID lock. Also, let's see how the online system works.

[Blacksite]

I read the other day that simply selling the Wii U along with one title for every consumer would make Nintendo profitable. I'm sure this wouldn't be the case if the company had opted for a more impressive GPU/CPU.

To be fair though, I've noticed some launch titles like ZombiU look better than what the PS3 offered when it first came out (Resistance: Fall of Man, Lair etc.) I'd expect a Legend of Zelda or Metroid title with the visual fidelity of Uncharted 3, which would be really cool for Nintendo.

[F34R]

The way the Zelda game has looked so far, has been AMAZING!! It's going to be epic to say the least.

[Rapture]

I wonder if that will become a reality. I would love to see something like this, or even better.

[F34R]

Yep, that's what we're looking at. Can't effin wait for that!!!

[Rapture]

Last I checked that was just a CGI video. I didn't even know they had announced an HD Zelda for the Wii-U?

[Lethal_NFS]

Last I checked that was just a CGI video. I didn't even know they had announced an HD Zelda for the Wii-U?

I am pretty sure that video was not a CGI. They were able to alter the lighting effects at any time during the demo. The demo was built off an old engine too. So chances are Nintendo could possibly make it look even better.

[Blacksite]

They haven't announced a Zelda game for the Wii U. There was just a rumor a while back saying the game was targeted for a 2014 release and that it would feature some really large, expansive environments.

What we did see was a tech demo. You couldn't control Link - only adjust the camera and play with the lighting.

[F34R]

Yeah, it probably is, but hopefully we'll see it something like that. Here's some info:
http://wiiudaily.com/2012/09/wii-u-z...e-coming-2014/

[Rapture]

"HD graphics, same visual style as Skyward Sword." - That article

So, this?


I'm sure it'll be more detailed, but I'm not really a fan or impressed with that art style. Hell, I think Windwaker looks much better than that. I was hoping for the graphical fidelity seen in that image I posted before, the one with the giant scorpion. Damn.

[F34R]

Yeah, I wanted that too. Still... if it's a hd visual, and it's beefed up in details, it'll be nice.

[itachi73378]

Last I checked that was just a CGI video. I didn't even know they had announced an HD Zelda for the Wii-U?

It was realtime, AND a new HD zelda is in the works (rumour) and its first dungeon is larger than the entire hyrule field in ocarina of time.
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/9...-game-to-date/
EDIT: beaten

The only thing we don't know are the specifics concerning the Edram- but strong rumor holds it pegged at 32MB (like the 360). If this is true, it's probably going to have less memory bandwidth than the 360 unit as a whole.

I thought 360 has 10mb eDRAM

[Rapture]

I was really loose with my language there. I didn't mean it was CGI, but instead that it wasn't footage of any actual Zelda game. That was the point I was trying to make. My bad.

[Lethal_NFS]

I was really loose with my language there. I didn't mean it was CGI, but instead that it wasn't footage of any actual Zelda game. That was the point I was trying to make. My bad.

Ya, I doubt we will hear anything about the new Zelda game till sometime late next year. Possibly at E3.

[Vulgotha]

I wonder if that will become a reality. I would love to see something like this, or even better.

LOL no, I most sincerely doubt it. The reflections alone would probably murder the WiiU.

[itachi73378]

Wii U CPU clock speeds revealed through hacks
CPU - triple core @ 1.24GHz
GPU - 550 MHz

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