Seriously, are we ever going to see FFXIII Versus or FFX HD?

[EatSleepAndPlay]

Any development updates on these?

How hard can it be to port a PS2 game to PS3? I don't see any other developers struggling to do it.

I feel like were gonna be playing FFXIII-3 before these games.

[DarkVincent07]

We will without a doubt be playing XIII-3 before these games.


I haven't heard anything in ages.... Versus XIII has been coming since before the PS3 came out and the PS4 is almost here.... ridiculous

[Blacksite]

I feel like were gonna be playing FFXIII-3 before these games.

That's because we are. Lol.

Unless I'm mistaken, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII will be released before Final Fantasy Versus XIII, so... sometime next year.

Maybe. =/

[Dave-The-Rave]

lol, when went to that Final Fantasy event last month it was funny watching the PR guys squirm when I asked about VERSUS.

[DarkVincent07]

Yeah Lightning Returns has been confirmed for next year... Versus.... "its coming!" That would have been great Dave

[EatSleepAndPlay]

This generation for Square has been a major let down compared to the previous ones.

[Wrath]

How many threads do we still need to discuss this one bloody thing? It is getting so damn tiresome...

The amount of butthurt FF die-hards disgusts me.

It comes when it comes or it never will. It really is that simple.

[DarkVincent07]

How many threads do we still need to discuss this one bloody thing? It is getting so damn tiresome...

The amount of butthurt whiners disgusts me.

It comes when it comes or it never will. It really is that simple.

Well, considering the game was announced like 7 years ago I think its pretty fair. People would be less butthurt if it was canceled early on, but hearing nothing for years is pretty lame I must say

[Wrath]

Well, considering the game was announced like 7 years ago I think its pretty fair. People would be less butthurt if it was canceled early on, but hearing nothing for years is pretty lame I must say

And that is perfectly understandable. However, is there really much point in creating the billionth thread about the same subject if it doesn't change a damn thing anyway? It's like beating a dead horse.

As long as SE don't officially address the situation all these threads are utterly pointless.

[darksora]

I miss the old days when we'd get 3 seperate ff games in a single generation this gen has been all about ff13 (love the ff13 games btw) but even ff14 is back in remake/development XD.

ps1: ff7-ff9 + ff tactics (cant think of anymore atm)
ps2: ffx-ff12 + ffx-2
ps3: ff13, ff13-2 so far. ff14 v2 and ff13-3 coming soon.

Doubting that versus will arrive before the new consoles tbh.

[Kuro]

Well.Can't do much but wait. That pretty much all you can do.

[daLa]

I'm pretty sure Versus XIII is either never coming out or pushed back to next gen consoles and they no longer talk about it cause they can't confirm through their game that the new consoles are upon us.

[Nakatomi Uk]

Square was better when it was just SQUARE soon as it went to Square Enix they went down hill from and still are

[NuSoardGraphite]

Square was better when it was just SQUARE soon as it went to Square Enix they went down hill from and still are

Exactly. When they merged with Enix, they suddenly got delusions of grandeur and tried to become the Japanese version of EA, which has failed miserably. They have produced some awesome games as Square Enix, but they have made more missteps than brilliant choices by a factor of at least 10 to 1

[robvandam111]

Guys, what are you talking about? Versus 13 was already released. I'm waiting for Final Fantasy Versus 13-2.



We will see Versus 13 in this years' E3. Book it!

[AaronSOLDIER]

How hard can it be to port a PS2 game to PS3? I don't see any other developers struggling to do it.

Konami

We will see Versus 13 in this years' E3. Book it!

Just like we saw it this year, or the year before etc.?

Anyway yeah fuck Square Enix, I get my JRPG fix from Namco nowadays, much better and actually feels like I'm playing a JRPG, not a wannabe WRPG.

[Ixion]

I believe S-E said they want to finish the FFXIII trilogy before releasing Versus, so that explains that.

As for FFX HD, it might be more than just a remaster. If they're actually re-doing the graphics and adding features, as per the rumors, then the wait would make sense. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense at all.

[Bigdoggy]

I believe S-E said they want to finish the FFXIII trilogy before releasing Versus, so that explains that.

As for FFX HD, it might be more than just a remaster. If they're actually re-doing the graphics and adding features, as per the rumors, then the wait would make sense. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense at all.

well, as horrible as FFXIII has been doing including FFXIII-2, they might as well just scrap it. honestly, if they continue making this game like it's the best selling FF game, they deserve to lose money. So, if they make a FFXIII - 3, I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of people getting laid off from that company and that will just be the start of a domino effect. I also believe that if they make a FFXIII-3 then someone is obviously trying to sabotage that company because no one would continue making a failed formula unless they were actually trying to fuck over the company.

[Ixion]

well, as horrible as FFXIII has been doing including FFXIII-2, they might as well just scrap it. honestly, if they continue making this game like it's the best selling FF game, they deserve to lose money. So, if they make a FFXIII - 3, I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of people getting laid off from that company and that will just be the start of a domino effect. I also believe that if they make a FFXIII-3 then someone is obviously trying to sabotage that company because no one would continue making a failed formula unless they were actually trying to fuck over the company.

I'm guessing you don't know that FFXIII-3 is already in development and will be coming out next year?

It's going to be an open-world Action-RPG with Lightning.

[admartian]

Are people still expecting this game to turn up? So big believers in Santa that lot of you are, I guess?

[zex494]

How many threads do we still need to discuss this one bloody thing? It is getting so damn tiresome...

The amount of butthurt FF die-hards disgusts me.

It comes when it comes or it never will. It really is that simple.

Wrath, do you come to the forums just to rant about "die-hard (insert whatever gaming thread your trolling that day) fans" and the games they want?

[Bigdoggy]

I'm guessing you don't know that FFXIII-3 is already in development and will be coming out next year?

It's going to be an open-world Action-RPG with Lightning.

I honestly don't have any faith in FFXIII-3, even if you say it's open world. the way SE has been running, I honestly think they have buried themselves so much this gen that they are to deep in the shit. to me it just seems like FFXIII series is flat out cursed to be doomed. If the company had a ounce of working brain in their heads, they would have just scrapped FFXIII series and make a fresh FF game with new characters. to be honest, I am sick of FFXIII, I hate seeing the title and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I really wish SE would put as much effort in other RPG games like they do with past Final Fantasy games, but they don't, it's really sad. They relied 100% on their Final Fantasy series while not putting much effort into their other RPG's and now look at them. o.O

look at Dragon Quest, awesome game yet they don't push it like they do with final fantasy and this is why they are losing money. why not use the good name "Dragon Warrior" load that fuckin game up with awesome stuff and advertise and show off it's awesomeness and watch the people flock right to it. but noooooooooo

what I want to know is besides this techo trance RPG movement that SE has been tossing out left and right with FFXIII. where is the good medieval RPG's with dragons and all that other stuff that really needs to be done with the power of these new system, honestly, what in the hell and why has SE gone from this.

This gen is missing a really good open world turn based medieval 100% dragon fantasy based RPG where SE could load the game up with awesomeness and get over at least 5 million sales at the least. that is what this gen needs in terms of RPG and it's missing.

MMORPG's have things in common wiht turn based RPG's and that is, people want amazing weapons and awesome looking armor and they want to look kick ass as well as awesome exploration in an awesome open world. if the character looks exactly the same throughout the game with the same clothes and the same weapon, well I'm sorry but that sucks, we are going into 2013, it's time to get a bit of variety in their.

[Ixion]

I honestly don't have any faith in FFXIII-3, even if you say it's open world. the way SE has been running, I honestly think they have buried themselves so much this gen that they are to deep in the shit. to me it just seems like FFXIII series is flat out cursed to be doomed. If the company had a ounce of working brain in their heads, they would have just scrapped FFXIII series and make a fresh FF game with new characters. to be honest, I am sick of FFXIII, I hate seeing the title and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I really wish SE would put as much effort in other RPG games like they do with past Final Fantasy games, but they don't, it's really sad. They relied 100% on their Final Fantasy series while not putting much effort into their other RPG's and now look at them. o.O

Honestly, all S-E has to do is hire some good writers. If FFXIII and FFXIII-2 had good, interesting dialogue and wasn't filled with trite melodrama, most of the fans would have been fine with them. Granted, FFXIII would still be too repetitive, but at least the story scenes would be interesting.

As for FFXIII-2, the gameplay experience is definitely satisfactory. It's open-ended and there's good variety. It's just the writing that really brings it down.

And since FFXIII-3 will have the same writers, we can expect the same in that department.

Versus will be written by the man who wrote FFVII and FFX (Nojima), which provides much more hope for a good story.

[Bigdoggy]

Honestly, all S-E has to do is hire some good writers. If FFXIII and FFXIII-2 had good, interesting dialogue and wasn't filled with trite melodrama, most of the fans would have been fine with them. Granted, FFXIII would still be too repetitive, but at least the story scenes would be interesting.

As for FFXIII-2, the gameplay experience is definitely satisfactory. It's open-ended and there's good variety. It's just the writing that really brings it down.

And since FFXIII-3 will have the same writers, we can expect the same in that department.

Versus will be written by the man who wrote FFVII and FFX (Nojima), which provides much more hope for a good story.

come on Ixion, I think it's safe to say that Versus isn't going happen and it's been on the very back burner and most likely wont even be done next year, that is if it even exists. right now I will call bullshit on everything related to FF versus, I honestly don't think we will see it. it's like duke nukem forever and once that game came out it blew chunks. ugh I personally think they canned Versus because in all honesty the game should have been out by now.

the point is, and your post proves it. SE relies to strongly on their Final Fantasy series and it's going to bite them in the ass, it's already been doing it to them.

[robvandam111]

I think you guys need to chill out. Seriously.

Fabula Nuova Crystallis is a 10 year project:

Square Enix is all set to release its biggest DS title yet, Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings. Japan's gaming press has been covering the gambit out of the game leading up to its Thursday Japanese release, with previews, interviews and even the first spoiler-filled strategy guides. We'll hold off on our own preview until when we have the game in our hands later this week. But prior to that, we thought we'd translate a few bits from a recent interview with the monthly Nintendo Dream magazine in which Square Enix's Shinji Hashimoto shared some thoughts on the future of the Final Fantasy series, with particular attention to how it applies to Nintendo.
Nintendo Dream first noted that this was Hashimoto's first appearance in the magazine. Hashimoto himself admitted that he hasn't appeared in an all-Nintendo magazine for quite some time. In fact, after jointing Square Enix in 1995, his first work with the series was as promotions producer for Final Fantasy VII. This was, of course, the first time the series moved away from Nintendo platforms.
Moving away from the history lesson, Nintendo Dream asked Hashimoto to comment on what makes Final Fantasy what it is. "For Dragon Quest, we're developing DQIX with the series founder, Yuji Horii, in the central role," responded Hashimoto. "But Final Fantasy has a different producer and director for each title, which is why we've been able to release up to part 13. However, with the director and producers continuing to change, when asked 'What is Final Fantasy?', it's hard to give a clear, concise answer."
The current set of Final Fantasy projects can be divided into four groups, explained Hashimoto. There's the Fabula Nova Crystallis (Final Fantasy XIII) group, the Ivalice Alliance (Final Fantasy Tactics, Revenant Wings) group, the Crystal Chronicles group (working exclusively on Nintendo hardware, Nintendo Dream states) and the Final Fantasy XI group.
For its followup question, Nintendo Dream revealed an interesting bit of trivia about Nintendo. According to the magazine, Nintendo has a gathering which one can think of as a "Zelda Steering Council" of sorts that discusses what's appropriate and inappropriate for Zelda games. According to Hashimoto, Square Enix does not have something like this for the Final Fantasy series. Even the design of the Chocobo characters, for instance, changes with every game.
So what, in the end, is Final Fantasy? Hashimoto attempted to give an answer. "If forced to give the essential common points for FF, there are Chocobo-like living creatures, there are crystals, there's travel via air ships, there are items such as potions... and the genre is RPG. While there are some exceptions, in general there aren't 'sequels,' so the games that are part of the 'numbered series,' will always come to a self-contained conclusion. VII's sequel is not VIII, and VIII's sequel is not IX."
As for the games that did have sequels, including the various Compilation of Final Fantasy VII products, Hashimoto noted that these are developed under the eye of those who made the originals. It's not the case that Square Enix has handed off the FFVII world to an unrelated team.
Although speaking with a Nintendo magazine, Hashimoto brought up Final Fantasy XIII as a comparison for Square Enix's decision to expand upon the FFVII storyline through the Compilation project years after the game's original release. "Different from something like VII, which we expanded upon afterwards, with Fabula Nova Crystallis FFXIII, we've thought about an expansive world setting from the start. Under the idea of wanting everyone to be sucked into the world for 10 years, we're preparing a number of categories." He likened this approach to films like Star Wars, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings.
Moving on to Nintendo specifics, the magazine asked Hashimoto for some of the selling points of Revenant Wings. "We're centering it around the story of a new adventure involving the heroes who appeared in Final Fantasy XII. There's content that will make people who played XII happy, and we're also making it easy to get into the world for those who are entering XII for the first time with the DS. The gameplay systems are also made to be easily played on the DS."
Other high-profile Square Enix titles for the DS include Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles and Final Fantasy Tactics A2. "The DS version of FFCC is, in terms of development, further along," said Hashimoto. "I believe that when you play it, you will think to yourself, 'there is an action RPG this beautiful.'"
Hashimoto made brief mention of the Wii version of Crystal Chronicles. "Recently, I was able to check the progress on the Wii version. It's coming along extremely well. However, developing a game that makes use of the Wii remote is difficult. For our Wii game Dragon Quest Sword, adjustments related to the remote took a long time."
As for other Nintendo-based Final Fantasy product, the magazine began by asking about possible Virtual Console downloads for the series. Things look bleak, at least in Japan. "We feel that the Japanese game market still requires media," explained Hashimoto. "Also, FF and Dragon Quest are played by a wide range of users, from children to adults, so there are limitations when you consider the problems that we would have with billing systems."
Hashimoto wouldn't specifically comment on future Final Fantasy games for Nintendo systems. When asked about the possibility, he noted the DS's success, but also pointed out that this doesn't necessarily guarantee that a game will sell. "We have to consider how we can make something that will be easy for casual users to get into."
The magazine closed off by asking Hashimoto about the Square Enix Party, a fan event set to be held in Japan on 5/12. Square Enix recently took out an advertisement for the event and the Final Fantasy 20th anniversary in Japan's widely circulated Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper. The advertisement listed 10 Final Fantasy games that will be shown at the event. While these had already been announced, a message at the bottom of the ad read "And, a Final Fantasy that's not known by anyone will make an appearance."
"The titles that were shown in the newspaper are the games that we can announce at this time," explained Hashimoto. "Of course, there are many unannounced titles that we're working on behind the scenes. We should be able to announce these at our big three domestic events, the Square Enix Party, Tokyo Game Show and Jump Festa."
Will Nintendo product be included in the announcements? Hashimoto wouldn't say for sure, but he did finish the interview by saying, "Look forward to the events as Nintendo fans, or, even better, as Square Enix fans."



by Anoop Gantayat