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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Battlefield 1 and 2.

    Same reason UC3 did well at launch, sequels get a lot of their mojo from the previous games in the series.
    Look at Borderlands 2 for example.
    BUT a negative press can easily destroy sales (Dragon Age 2).
    IN the case of sequels, most people aren't looking for rave reviews, they liked the original, they are generally looking for reassurance it simply doesn't suck.

    Between word of mouth, 2nd hand sales and most importantly the slow burner, sequels tend to come out of the gate blazing.

    In the case of the PS3, most of their sequels flopped, which would tend to indicate the originals were simply not slow burners, or ultimately good enough games for people to spread the word about.
    Bingo. You hit the nail right on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Bingo. You hit the nail right on the head.

    Battlefield 3 was successful because of the hype and marketing, no one cared (casuals anyway) for battlefield pre frostbite engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Battlefield 3 was successful because of the hype and marketing, no one cared (casuals anyway) for battlefield pre frostbite engine
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    Battlefiled BC, Battliefiled BC 2, The original battlefield on pc were all outstandingly succesfull games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Battlefiled BC, Battliefiled BC 2, The original battlefield on pc were all outstandingly succesfull games.
    I know but not to the scale of BF3
    look at them on consoles before BF3, no one cared but people who knew they was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I know but not to the scale of BF3
    look at them on consoles before BF3, no one cared but people who knew they was good.

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    You will find most who bought were interested because it was similar to bad company 2. And battlefield 1942.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    You will find most who bought were interested because it was similar to bad company 2. And battlefield 1942.
    You will find that Battlefield 3 sold 7 TIMES MORE COPIES than any previous Battlefield game, making your claim impossible.

    MOST people who bought BF3 had never owned played a Battlefield game before. Not even close. After 24 games and expansions, BF3 alone accounts for 34% of the total franchise sales. More than a third of sales came from a single game, and the other 2/3rds of sales were split between 23 other games.

    So, you're quite simply wrong. MOST people bought BF3 as their first Battlefield game. MOST bought BF3, not because of previous games, but because of this....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    You will find that Battlefield 3 sold 7 TIMES MORE COPIES than any previous Battlefield game, making your claim impossible.

    MOST people who bought BF3 had never owned played a Battlefield game before. Not even close. After 24 games and expansions, BF3 alone accounts for 34% of the total franchise sales. More than a third of sales came from a single game, and the other 2/3rds of sales were split between 23 other games.

    So, you're quite simply wrong. MOST people bought BF3 as their first Battlefield game. MOST bought BF3, not because of previous games, but because of this....



    How many of the Battlefield games are on the PC and consoles? Could the fact that 3 is available for both PC and consoles have anything to do with it? I'll have to check on this to see which are available where.

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    Only Battlefield that I can think of not being on PC is the first Bad Compamy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    You will find that Battlefield 3 sold 7 TIMES MORE COPIES than any previous Battlefield game, making your claim impossible.
    Bad company 2 sold between 9-12 million copies.

    BF3 has sold about 12 million....

    Which is completely in line with expectations.
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    Only Battlefield that I can think of not being on PC is the first Bad Compamy


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    I enjoyed Bad Company 1 & 2 as well as Battlefied 2: Modern Combat more than Battlefield 3. I may be in the minority, but I know what I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    You mad bro? When the vast majority of a userbase chooses not to buy a game then yes it has done poorly and has failed. You certainly cant call it a success. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Just as you are to your opinion.
    and your opinion of defending low 360 exclusive score. particularly Halo 4. Sucks that few good exclusives on 360 are getting lower scores.

    Again, if review scores were really indication of sales. Halo Reach would have sold far better than Halo 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post

    Battlefield 3 was successful because of the hype and marketing, no one cared (casuals anyway) for battlefield pre frostbite engine
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    This. I think someone is trying hard to deny that 360 exclusive's success are mostly from marketing.

    Circular Logic

    Logic 1: 360 exclusive sold well cause of its reviews.

    Logic 2: but reviews dont matter cause game sold well.

    fail
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    Interesting...If my data is correct about sony below and they sell more than 5.9m for the holidays then MS is in 3rd. But $#@! don't really matter. Just discussion and seeing how close they are battling each other.

    Sony

    *I'm Not sure if they are including Oct figures and/or the total they shipped for black friday;Sony reported on this before black friday*

    Code:
    Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD
    
    FY 2006/07         -        -       1.7      1.8      3.5      3.5
    
    FY 2007/08        0.7      1.3      4.9      2.2      9.1      12.6 
    
    FY 2008/09        1.6      2.4      4.5      1.6      10.1     22.7 
    
    FY 2009/10        1.1      3.2      6.5      2.2      13.0     35.7
    
    FY 2010/11        2.4      3.5      6.3      2.1      14.3     50.0
    
    FY 2011/12        1.8      3.7      6.5      1.9      13.9     63.9
    
    FY 2012/13          \ 6.1  /        -         -        6.1     70.0
    MS(including holidays)
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     FY          Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr    Ap-Jn     FY       LTD
    
    2005/06        -        1.5      1.7      1.8      5.0      5.0
    
    2006/07        1.0      4.4      0.5      0.7      6.6      11.6    
    
    2007/08        1.8      4.3      1.3      1.3      8.7      20.3    
    
    2008/09        2.2      6.0      1.7      1.2      11.2     31.5     
    
    2009/10        2.1      5.2      1.5      1.5      10.3     41.8
    
    2010/11        2.8      6.3      2.7      1.7      13.7     55.3 
    
    2011/12        2.3      8.2      1.4      1.1      13.0     68.3
    
    2012/13        1.7      5.9       -        -       7.6      75.9
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    Quote Originally Posted by FableMaster View Post
    and your opinion of defending low 360 exclusive score. particularly Halo 4. Sucks that few good exclusives on 360 are getting lower scores. Again, if review scores were really indication of sales. Halo Reach would have sold far better than Halo 4. This. I think someone is trying hard to deny that 360 exclusive's success are mostly from marketing. Circular Logic Logic 1: 360 exclusive sold well cause of its reviews. Logic 2: but reviews dont matter cause game sold well. fail
    Halo 4 got low review scores? lol Your opinion is uber amusing but not at all convincing. Anyway back to the actual topic. I guess the next reports with official numbers are coming out soon so then we'll know for sure. It really wouldn't surprise me at all if the PS3 did pass up the 360 tbh.
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    The PS3 passed the 360. I don't think we need any report to confirm it.

    I guess the old saying comes true again. You can't beat Sony.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    The PS3 passed the 360. I don't think we need any report to confirm it. I guess the old saying comes true again. You can't beat Sony.
    Sorry, but I dont regard guesstimates as gospel truth. Maybe theyre right but maybe their not so I'll just wait till I hear it from the horses mouth. We'll know definitely when the official numbers come out. Till then its a maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    The PS3 passed the 360. I don't think we need any report to confirm it.

    I guess the old saying comes true again. You can't beat Sony.
    Funny, because nintendo indispensably did this generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Interesting...If my data is correct about sony below and they sell more than 5.9m for the holidays then MS is in 3rd. But $#@! don't really matter. Just discussion and seeing how close they are battling each other.

    Sony

    *I'm Not sure if they are including Oct figures and/or the total they shipped for black friday;Sony reported on this before black friday*

    Code:
    Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD
    
    FY 2006/07         -        -       1.7      1.8      3.5      3.5
    
    FY 2007/08        0.7      1.3      4.9      2.2      9.1      12.6 
    
    FY 2008/09        1.6      2.4      4.5      1.6      10.1     22.7 
    
    FY 2009/10        1.1      3.2      6.5      2.2      13.0     35.7
    
    FY 2010/11        2.4      3.5      6.3      2.1      14.3     50.0
    
    FY 2011/12        1.8      3.7      6.5      1.9      13.9     63.9
    
    FY 2012/13          \ 6.1  /        -         -        6.1     70.0
    MS(including holidays)
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     FY          Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr    Ap-Jn     FY       LTD
    
    2005/06        -        1.5      1.7      1.8      5.0      5.0
    
    2006/07        1.0      4.4      0.5      0.7      6.6      11.6    
    
    2007/08        1.8      4.3      1.3      1.3      8.7      20.3    
    
    2008/09        2.2      6.0      1.7      1.2      11.2     31.5     
    
    2009/10        2.1      5.2      1.5      1.5      10.3     41.8
    
    2010/11        2.8      6.3      2.7      1.7      13.7     55.3 
    
    2011/12        2.3      8.2      1.4      1.1      13.0     68.3
    
    2012/13        1.7      5.9       -        -       7.6      75.9

    Yeah..uh this wrong. They have lumped the Ocotber sales into Spetember.
    You cant ship 5.9 million and be ahead (5.9 million is what MS just shifted).
    They need roughly about 6.8 million to tie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Yeah..uh this wrong. They have lumped the Ocotber sales into Spetember.
    You cant ship 5.9 million and be ahead (5.9 million is what MS just shifted).
    They need roughly about 6.8 million to tie.
    I'm amazed that Sony didn't run away with this generation since they had built up such a huge, loyal fanbase with the PS2. For MS to be in the position they are is fantastic for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskymonk View Post
    the only way we will truly find out who is the king of consoles is when the new 720 and PS4 release this christmas and reveal the results at the end of 2013. ohhhhhh yes baby i am looking forward to that. might buy myself a couple of PS4s just to help out. whos with me?
    I have no interest in helping anyone "win", I just want to enjoy my next console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskymonk View Post
    the only way we will truly find out who is the king of consoles is when the new 720 and PS4 release this christmas and reveal the results at the end of 2013. ohhhhhh yes baby i am looking forward to that. might buy myself a couple of PS4s just to help out. whos with me?
    Question: If Sony sells more consoles but goes bankrupt in the process do they really "win"?

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    Whatever these question's answers is, if sony goes bankrupt, sony shareholders are not the only ones losing, all gamers are. So the one who cheers sony's fall seems uberdumb to my eyes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingo View Post
    Whatever these question's answers is, if sony goes bankrupt, sony shareholders are not the only ones losing, all gamers are. So the one who cheers sony's fall seems uberdumb to my eyes...
    I dont see anybody here cheering for Sony's fall

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