Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst ... 2 ... LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 75
  1. #26
    Supreme Veteran
    claud3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Agartha
    PSN ID
    sophieskyrim126Era
    Age
    30
    Posts
    17,613
    Rep Power
    126
    Points
    299 (0 Banked)
    Items Tommy VercettiGTA Claude
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    explains all

    Plato and Aristotle, a detail of The School of Athens, a fresco by Raphael. Aristotle gestures to the earth, representing his belief in knowledge

  2. #27
    Veteran
    Kauldron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    4,102
    Rep Power
    77
    Points
    6,190 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by J3ff3 View Post
    not strange. heat/power consumption. they did it in the ps3's RSX by 50mhz, sony just "officially" forgot to tell you about it.
    ???

    RSX wasn't a moble GPU and it was known that they scaled it back.

    I see the gaffers are saying that the article is also incorrect in saying that it is a moble GPU. If it is the 7970 instead of the 7970M then that is a big difference.

    I can see in downclocking the 7970 but not the 7970M.
    _______________________________________________

    _______________________________________________

  3. #28
    Veteran
    daLa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    24
    Posts
    4,593
    Rep Power
    74
    Points
    56,243 (0 Banked)
    Too much hype and speculation, it must be truly close to a reveal.


  4. #29
    Dedicated Member

    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Oklahoma
    PSN ID
    Foraeli
    Posts
    1,062
    Rep Power
    17
    Points
    12,958 (0 Banked)
    A high-end-like mobile GPU sounds about right. Mobile GPUs are already first and foremost designed to deliver low-watt, powerful graphics performance in devices with tight air flow constrictions, and so it only makes sense.

  5. #30
    Elite Guru
    J3ff3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    5,230
    Rep Power
    79
    Points
    7,726 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    ???

    RSX wasn't a moble GPU and it was known that they scaled it back.

    I see the gaffers are saying that the article is also incorrect in saying that it is a moble GPU. If it is the 7970 instead of the 7970M then that is a big difference.

    I can see in downclocking the 7970 but not the 7970M.
    sorry, my mistake, you are correct, i just didn't actually read your post properly....!

    as far as i know its not a 7970M, its a binned 7870 (which is the same thing i think). let me have a look for the post..... i read it about 15 mins ago
    Last edited by J3ff3; 01-19-2013 at 04:19.
    Got YLOD? In the UK? I'll buy it off you.

  6. #31
    Elite Guru
    J3ff3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    5,230
    Rep Power
    79
    Points
    7,726 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    $#@! sake, i can't find it. give me a sec, it made sense

    yeah, basically he must have used a 7970M for comparison. so he must mean its already been underclocked.

    *edit: although the 7870-7970M isn't a 6% decrease i don't think.

    $#@! knows. i've had one too many beers.
    Last edited by J3ff3; 01-19-2013 at 04:26.
    Got YLOD? In the UK? I'll buy it off you.

  7. #32
    Elite Sage
    Two4DaMoney's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Age
    27
    Posts
    12,397
    Rep Power
    110
    Points
    14,585 (75,576 Banked)
    Items Naughty DogPS3 SlimNaughty DogUser name style
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I'm getting tired of these $#@!ing rumors just as to how sam jackson was tired of those motherf'n snakes on the plane. I want to hear it from the horses mouth and see some damn games already.

    Destiny and Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor is all I need for the rest of the year.

  8. #33
    Ancient
    TGO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    purgatory
    Age
    32
    Posts
    10,501
    Rep Power
    99
    Points
    12,727 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by J3ff3 View Post
    sorry, my mistake, you are correct, i just didn't actually read your post properly....!

    as far as i know its not a 7970M, its a binned 7870 (which is the same thing i think). let me have a look for the post..... i read it about 15 mins ago
    I got a good memory, and you are correct, its a binned 7870 @ 850mhz
    With 18 CU instead if 20, which hits the 1.84 Teraflops thing, why Sony did this I don't know
    Overheating maybe?
    Also DF did refer to it as a 7970M for power consumption comparison reasons


    Sent via Codec
    Last edited by TGO; 01-19-2013 at 07:44.

    "Xbox is about to become the next water cooler”

  9. #34
    Master Poster
    TheBreezyBB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Qatar
    PSN ID
    BreBaz
    Age
    30
    Posts
    3,475
    Rep Power
    84
    Points
    18,170 (0 Banked)
    Items One PieceOne PieceAuronPS3 FatVitaNaughty DogFinal Fantasy XPlayStation
    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    How can you say that with confidence? Clock speeds on their own don't mean anything.
    Simply Because for AMD CPU Clock speed means everything now days.

    Also, if it's indeed an AMD CPU, everyone can say goodbye to BC!




  10. #35
    Extreme Poster
    mistercrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Texas
    PSN ID
    mistercrow
    Posts
    25,535
    Rep Power
    165
    Points
    169,417 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I read both are more powerful then each other, I don't think any devs before CES said anything tbh & was all BS rumours, but now we have loads of the same info (though chinese whispered) coming out from CES with a impending announcement, the truth is coming
    but we might have a glimpse of what it is here.

    ^^ Ram numbers are confusing, performance wise read the 720 ram as it, 5gb of performance
    PS4 will have double the performance of 4GB of DDR3 Ram so work it out, though MS is said to equal it out with edram.

    ok to put it simply, by time 720 off works off 1gb of info PS4 will have finished 3 loads of 1.5 gb, Thats to my understanding of it people are welcome to correct me
    4GB of DDR3? The specs you posted said 8GB of DDR3.

  11. #36
    Extreme Poster
    mistercrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Texas
    PSN ID
    mistercrow
    Posts
    25,535
    Rep Power
    165
    Points
    169,417 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by MjW View Post
    I guess the performance difference will be pretty much as the ps3/360 difference.


    TA-pa-TA-pa-taPAtalk
    In other words very little difference.

  12. #37
    Ancient
    TGO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    purgatory
    Age
    32
    Posts
    10,501
    Rep Power
    99
    Points
    12,727 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    4GB of DDR3? The specs you posted said 8GB of DDR3.
    OS reserved, its 5GB> 3GB reserved for OS
    that was just a example
    My guess is kinect uses the most of it

    Sent via Codec
    Last edited by TGO; 01-19-2013 at 11:45.

    "Xbox is about to become the next water cooler”

  13. #38
    Forum Sage
    Itachi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Winterfell
    PSN ID
    iwinulose042
    Age
    20
    Posts
    8,320
    Rep Power
    82
    Points
    30,796 (151,503 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIII-2Final Fantasy XIIIFull Metal AlchemistDragon Ball ZNarutoDeath NoteNaughty DogLightningNoctisAssassins Creed EzioPS3 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by brebaz View Post
    Simply Because for AMD CPU Clock speed means everything now days.

    Also, if it's indeed an AMD CPU, everyone can say goodbye to BC!
    Not so fast grasshopper. The cell may still be included (wishful thinking) in the console. Sony has a huge store with thousands of app/games, why would they make it so that their new products can't use any of it?

  14. #39
    Master Poster
    TheBreezyBB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Qatar
    PSN ID
    BreBaz
    Age
    30
    Posts
    3,475
    Rep Power
    84
    Points
    18,170 (0 Banked)
    Items One PieceOne PieceAuronPS3 FatVitaNaughty DogFinal Fantasy XPlayStation
    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    Not so fast grasshopper. The cell may still be included (wishful thinking) in the console. Sony has a huge store with thousands of app/games, why would they make it so that their new products can't use any of it?
    Say hello to $600 PS4!! I wouldn't mind it though actually i would love the PS4 even more if they included the Cell.




  15. #40
    Forum Sage
    Itachi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Winterfell
    PSN ID
    iwinulose042
    Age
    20
    Posts
    8,320
    Rep Power
    82
    Points
    30,796 (151,503 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIII-2Final Fantasy XIIIFull Metal AlchemistDragon Ball ZNarutoDeath NoteNaughty DogLightningNoctisAssassins Creed EzioPS3 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by brebaz View Post
    Say hello to $600 PS4!! I wouldn't mind it though actually i would love the PS4 even more if they included the Cell.
    Well that doesn't matter since the original ps3 was costing sony ~$840 to make and they were selling for $599. This time their costs are drastically reduced because of a traditional design and no exotic R&D costs. Blu ray is also much cheaper.

    It could still happen. If it does, ps4 will be an instant hit, 70 million ps3 users suddenly will have a great reason to own a ps4

  16. #41
    Trying not to break stuff...
    DarkVincent07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    22
    Posts
    17,306
    Rep Power
    107
    Points
    47,752 (0 Banked)
    Items LuluHIMLinkin ParkPlayStationFinal Fantasy XIII-2Final Fantasy XIIIDeath Note LFinal FantasyDark Souls Cover
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!

  17. #42
    Elite Guru
    Nitey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Age
    25
    Posts
    5,675
    Rep Power
    62
    Points
    40,911 (0 Banked)
    Items DreamcastDeath Note LArsenal
    I hope they get these $#@!es out at like $399.

  18. #43
    Master Poster
    TheBreezyBB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Qatar
    PSN ID
    BreBaz
    Age
    30
    Posts
    3,475
    Rep Power
    84
    Points
    18,170 (0 Banked)
    Items One PieceOne PieceAuronPS3 FatVitaNaughty DogFinal Fantasy XPlayStation
    Well some interesting post popped up on NeoGAF

    Hey folks. Just got approved and this is my first post!

    I hate to be that "guy" that brings more "insider information" to the table(especially since it's my first post and nobody knows if I'm trustworthy), but I will be for right now. I have a friend who is very, very close with Sony. I won't say what he does or who he is, but I can relay what he has told me.

    I haven't kept up on this page completely so hopefully I'm bringing some new information. I showed him the rumored leaks from yesterday and he said the only thing they really got right was the RAM. According to him(I don't know tech talk very well so you might understand this better than I) the APU has 4 steamroller cores in it, bandwidth to the GDDR5 is high. Cell runs the show(OS, security, IO, etc.) and also acts as a satellite/accelerator processor for the steamroller cores. APU has access to the XDR in a similar way that RSX does. There is an SCC(Super Companion Chip) inside as well.

    The ram is only 3.5gb and is in 3 pools. 2GB GDDR5 for the APU(which is not an A10), 1GB DDR3 for the SCC, and 512mb XDR(for Cell). He said the APU has 256GB/s to the GDDR5, devkits though. There is no cell in the devkit yet, maybe 1st party ones, cell integration needs final silicon.

    It will be backwards compatible with PS3 AND PS2. As far as the new controller rumor, he doesn't know much as far as design goes but did say that there is no screen on the controller, however, you can use another device to have that. I assume he's hinting at the vita?

    Anyways, that's the info I received. No need to believe it and I'm not saying it is 100% accurate, just going by what I've been told.
    Thanks for the welcome everyone. I've waited quite a long time And thanks for the the ban tip. Like I said I'm not saying this is fact, just going by what I've been told by someone who has told me things in the past about Sony that have come true. But I won't relay many things anymore, especially if it's completely opposite of what everyone else is saying. I can see how that can be total BS.

    He said a Super Companion Chip is: Cell's peripheral LSI, which houses audo and image interfaces supporting high-speed data transfer capability. The chip also supports a group of interfaces for various systems (video, audio input/output, digital AV interface, IEEE1394, digital tuner interface) and a group of interfaces that make it easier to connect standard input/output devices (standard bus interface, high speed network interface and storage device interface.) It's made by Toshiba.

    Also the leaks I showed him weren't the DF one, it was the VG247 leak from the other day.


    Linky 1 Linky 2


    This to me seems more believable.




  19. Likes DarkVincent07 likes this post
  20. #44
    Elite Guru
    Nitey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Age
    25
    Posts
    5,675
    Rep Power
    62
    Points
    40,911 (0 Banked)
    Items DreamcastDeath Note LArsenal
    wouldn't it be stretching it to massively change specs at this point (if it's true that launch window is being aimed at fall '13), what that dude with absolutely no credibility is saying seems rather distant from what we've heard from more reputable sources such as digital foundry and vgleaks. Though at this point all this $#@! is just rumours so whatever

    399 or bust!

  21. #45
    Forum Elder
    chrisw26308's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    42
    Posts
    2,622
    Rep Power
    72
    Points
    13,403 (0 Banked)
    Im thinking I read somwthing within the last couple months that stated sony was patenting tech that allows cell to play nice with other processors,.or something like that.

    If I did, this would make sense.

    Waiting,for mynd, itachi, and the other brains to decipher this.

    Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  22. #46
    Master Poster
    TheBreezyBB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Qatar
    PSN ID
    BreBaz
    Age
    30
    Posts
    3,475
    Rep Power
    84
    Points
    18,170 (0 Banked)
    Items One PieceOne PieceAuronPS3 FatVitaNaughty DogFinal Fantasy XPlayStation
    @Nitey

    Change what specs exactly? All we know so far are just baseless rumors nothing more.

    It would make sense having something that is crazy unbelievable for a Sony console, rather than a custom PC in a box.




  23. #47
    Elite Guru
    Nitey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Age
    25
    Posts
    5,675
    Rep Power
    62
    Points
    40,911 (0 Banked)
    Items DreamcastDeath Note LArsenal
    I mean if we were to take the majority of the 'latest' rumours and stack it up against that wild spec from a 1st poster on neogaf then I think I'd be more inclined to believe what digital foundry/vgleak sources are saying

    If things have changed into what this 1st poster is saying then I find it hard to believe because how has no one else picked up something similar

    Like you said it's all rumours and $#@!.

  24. #48
    Forum Elder
    chrisw26308's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    42
    Posts
    2,622
    Rep Power
    72
    Points
    13,403 (0 Banked)
    I was hoping for x86 arcitecture. Like the vita. Easier to develop for. Sony needs to quit making alien technology with the competition they have.

    Bend did an amazing job on uncharted, and its a launch title.

    Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  25. #49
    Forum Sage
    Itachi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Winterfell
    PSN ID
    iwinulose042
    Age
    20
    Posts
    8,320
    Rep Power
    82
    Points
    30,796 (151,503 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIII-2Final Fantasy XIIIFull Metal AlchemistDragon Ball ZNarutoDeath NoteNaughty DogLightningNoctisAssassins Creed EzioPS3 Slim
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitey View Post
    wouldn't it be stretching it to massively change specs at this point
    Steamroller has shown up in many previous other reports aswell (first one in fact), people just assumed Sony switched to jaguar like 720 to lower the heat and power consumption. So this seems very plausible. If true, ps4 will be EVEN MORE ahead of the 720.
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    I was hoping for x86 arcitecture. Like the vita. Easier to develop for. Sony needs to quit making alien technology with the competition they have.

    Bend did an amazing job on uncharted, and its a launch title.

    Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
    That's the thing, Sony has learned not to put out alien tech. Vita is the proof. Going with AMD for both CPU and GPU is the best they could do. The memory divisions also make sense
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Im thinking I read somwthing within the last couple months that stated sony was patenting tech that allows cell to play nice with other processors,.or something like that.
    I also read something about the cell being shrunk to 22nm
    Anyway, news that cell will return with BC has me grinning ear to ear



    for non tech savy people here are dbz cell saga comparisons:
    Wii U = Picollo (kami fusion)
    Durango = Vegeta (cell games)
    Orbis = Goku (cell games)
    Last edited by Itachi; 01-20-2013 at 00:25.

  26. Likes Nitey likes this post
  27. #50
    Elite Guru
    J3ff3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    5,230
    Rep Power
    79
    Points
    7,726 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    OS reserved, its 5GB> 3GB reserved for OS
    that was just a example
    My guess is kinect uses the most of it

    Sent via Codec
    or kinect + multitasking. no need to quit a game to do $#@!.
    Got YLOD? In the UK? I'll buy it off you.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
vBCredits II Deluxe v2.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2010-2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.