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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    The PS4 better have universal custom soundtracks.
    I think that's a given. Does the vita not do that yet?

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    Games, I want to see some $#@!ing games. Games! I can't take this $#@! no more...Exclusives, preferably.

    Hmm...I wonder what the launch prices are going to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    I really like how both consoles will be nearly the same in hardware. This means the OS will determine the best console!! I sure hope Sony has something amazing up their sleeve.
    This is where MS has superioty when it comes to OS designs.

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    Holy Smokes! I was expecting Microsoft to 'Bring the Wood' but didn't expect the WHOLE Damn Forest. Those four Move Engines, Wow! I don't want to confuse people with a lot of Technical Talk, so in layman's terms, that basically means they are Quadra Pumping the Flop Capacitor out the Ying-Yang.

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    Report from vg247 that Kaz Hirai will delay the launch of the ps4 for reasons unknown. It could be the final SDK is not on par with MS final SDUk.
    Last edited by The Sith; 01-21-2013 at 19:37.

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    From what confirmed devs are saying, this chart is legitimate. High level and glosses over important details, but legit. Which I find a tiny bit hard to believe and terribly disappointing.

    There's something special about the "Data Move Engines" that contribute grossly to the 720's performance.. Apparently it's cool stuff.

    Even if that is true, though, there's no escaping the low bandwidth, the paltry 32MB of ESRAM.. I mean they're literally using 8GB of DDR3 for a dedicated gaming machine!

    WTF people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Games, I want to see some $#@!ing games. Games! I can't take this $#@! no more...Exclusives, preferably.
    Pretty much this. Let the games do the talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    Report from vg247 that Kaz Hirai will delay the launch of the ps4 for reasons unknown. It could be the final SDK is not on par with MS final SDUk.
    Hopefully not for too long. Sony doesnt want to give MS any more time with the market to themselves than what is absolutely neccessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    From what confirmed devs are saying, this chart is legitimate. High level and glosses over important details, but legit. Which I find a tiny bit hard to believe and terribly disappointing.

    There's something special about the "Data Move Engines" that contribute grossly to the 720's performance.. Apparently it's cool stuff.

    Even if that is true, though, there's no escaping the low bandwidth, the paltry 32MB of ESRAM.. I mean they're literally using 8GB of DDR3 for a dedicated gaming machine!

    WTF people.
    Its not a dedicated gaming machine. If anything this and other rumors point to the opposite.

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    Damn, awesome specs. Xbox 3 is gonna be pimping if true. Hard to believe that the PS4/Xbox 3 are so close in performance. Good news for all.

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    The days of consoles being just dedicated gaming machines are over whether it be MS or Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shingi70 View Post
    Its not a dedicated gaming machine. If anything this and other rumors point to the opposite.

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    What I mean is, in principle this thing is designed to do games first and foremost with other media functions incorporated as important, but secondary, features.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCbossman View Post
    Holy Smokes! I was expecting Microsoft to 'Bring the Wood' but didn't expect the WHOLE Damn Forest. Those four Move Engines, Wow! I don't want to confuse people with a lot of Technical Talk, so in layman's terms, that basically means they are Quadra Pumping the Flop Capacitor out the Ying-Yang.

    Explain yourself please!
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    They're used for load balancing. To keep the system at higher levels of efficiency and utilization.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCbossman View Post
    Holy Smokes! I was expecting Microsoft to 'Bring the Wood' but didn't expect the WHOLE Damn Forest. Those four Move Engines, Wow! I don't want to confuse people with a lot of Technical Talk, so in layman's terms, that basically means they are Quadra Pumping the Flop Capacitor out the Ying-Yang.
    They could be using a flux capacitor in order to future proof it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    I think that's a given. Does the vita not do that yet?
    Yeah it does. Though some games don't let you do it, so it's developer choice. Out of the games I have Lumines doens't let me do it but it makes sense I guess since it's a music/beat puzzle game

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    So according to someone in the know, that diagram is lacking, or completely neglecting an entire block.
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    What I mean is, in principle this thing is designed to do games first and foremost with other media functions incorporated as important, but secondary, features.
    I dunno the way some of the insider guys on GAF and just Microsoft's attitude in general that seems quite the opposite.



    Thought that's okay with me because its what I want.

    I was glad to here that on the gaming side Microsoft is going to go hard like they did Pre Kinect.

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    I wonder how many of these OS features will be locked away behind gold accounts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I wonder how many of these OS features will be locked away behind gold accounts?
    90%.

    Need you ask? lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    90%.

    Need you ask? lol
    They'll probably raise gold to $70. Maybe bring in an ad-free version and call it platinum for $100.
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    From Gaf:

    A person in the know I spoke with said the diagram is missing a cross-buffer between the North Bridge, Data Move Engine, and DDR3. This cross-buffer adds an extra vertex layer to the GPU, essentially doubling the throughput of the ESRAM. This innovative feature is a virtualization, so to speak, of trans-core communication.
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    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by X2 View Post
    trans-core communication











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    Is that diagram accurate? It has a northbridge? No memory controller in the CPU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    They'll probably raise gold to $70. Maybe bring in an ad-free version and call it platinum for $100.
    Cant see it tbh.

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