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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I think the biggest selling game this gen is first party. I dare you to ask Sent via Codec
    MGS4. And that game spiked PS3 sales when it came out so 1st party games can move consoles especially early in the generation.

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    MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.
    Oh yeah of course not. In fact PS2 main success was based on 3rd party games that Xbox didnt have.

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    It seems that with both consoles now being pretty much equal on exclusives and third party, as well as motion devices and performance, it might end up coming down to marketing and media services for each console. That is a tight race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    MGS4. And that game spiked PS3 sales when it came out so 1st party games can move consoles especially early in the generation.
    I was actually referring to Wii Sports lol
    But yeah
    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Oh yeah of course not. In fact PS2 main success was based on 3rd party games that Xbox didnt have.
    Exclusives!
    They are important, 3rd or 1st party
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I was actually referring to Wii Sports lol But yeah Exclusives! They are important, 3rd or 1st party Its just how popular they are Sent via Codec
    Of course. But I was just referring to 3rd party games vs 1st party games. Never said exclusives weren't important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    It seems that with both consoles now being pretty much equal on exclusives and third party, as well as motion devices and performance, it might end up coming down to marketing and media services for each console. That is a tight race.
    MS has the edge on both of those easily.


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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Of course. But I was just referring to 3rd party games vs 1st party games. Never said exclusives weren't important.
    Oh well a very successful series being exclusive will shift consoles over a new first party IP

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    It hasbeen proven this gen that first party games doesnt move consoles.
    Yeah ok lol

    Uncharted, Halo, GOW, GT5 etc. have proven this wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Yeah ok lol

    Uncharted, Halo, GOW, GT5 etc. have proven this wrong.
    Yeah I don't see how that is a valid argument as well. Exclusives are the cornerstones that consoles found themselves on. They apparently matter enough for console companies to back certain titles. I.E.-Mario and Zelda with Nintendo, Halo and Gears with MS, and GOW and Uncharted for Sony.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    MS has the edge on both of those easily.
    This gen. They could drop the ball there with next gen, and Sony could pick up where MS left off and have much better advertising and media services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.
    Some will do the trick others won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Oh well a very successful series being exclusive will shift consoles over a new first party IP Sent via Codec
    Yep, and theres alot of successful 3rd party IPs. And those are important to a console as well. Not knocking the importance of either one. Sony has a better balance of 3rd party while still having strong first party.
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    Interesting. I'll be the unreasonable one and go with this; They must have the power and resources to scrap everything / swap out a few key parts in a 1 to 3 month window. In all honest though I don't see why not. If this is so ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by D3seeker View Post
    Interesting. I'll be the unreasonable one and go with this; They must have the power and resources to scrap everything / swap out a few key parts in a 1 to 3 month window. In all honest though I don't see why not. If this is so ....
    Well, think of it this way. We're all waiting to know what the CPU, GPU and RAM will look like, right? Those aren't Sony designed parts. We know the BluRay is making a comeback because it is in the latest wave of devkits. We know it will have internet, because, duh. Sony will need to design and manufacture a PCB/board as well as cooling, but that can exist on paper.

    As long as Sony cemented that the PS4 would have some kind of base-line specification and architecture to the developers, they can begin their work on first generation software titles. Doing things like adding RAM, clocking parts faster or using later generation parts won't affect anything except make the games run at a higher framerate. So, does Sony have some wiggle room as long as they keep their mouth shut and don't commit to a launch window? The answer is absolutely yes. They do.

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    Oh my how the tables have turned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Oh my how the tables have turned.
    It was actually a good read to go back through this thread. LOL, we got so rick-rolled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    It was actually a good read to go back through this thread. LOL, we got so rick-rolled!
    Sony was so good at it that they even rick rolled the developers.


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    Lol its funny looking back on this. Sony playing all kinds of tricks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Lol its funny looking back on this. Sony playing all kinds of tricks.
    It was a jedi mind trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    It was a jedi mind trick.
    This is not the first reveal you're looking for.




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    So would this be considered a catfish moment for Microsoft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha Palm View Post
    So would this be considered a catfish moment for Microsoft?
    I just heard that the person who leaked this story was a man named Ronaiah Tuiasosopo.

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