PS4: Sony will let Microsoft make the first move

**radgamer420** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by TGO

I think the biggest selling game this gen is first party. I dare you to ask

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MGS4. And that game spiked PS3 sales when it came out so 1st party games can move consoles especially early in the generation.

**The Sith** · 01-23-2013

MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.

**radgamer420** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by The Sith

MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.

Oh yeah of course not. In fact PS2 main success was based on 3rd party games that Xbox didnt have.

**Soldier 95B** · 01-23-2013

It seems that with both consoles now being pretty much equal on exclusives and third party, as well as motion devices and performance, it might end up coming down to marketing and media services for each console. That is a tight race.

**TGO** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by radgamer420

MGS4. And that game spiked PS3 sales when it came out so 1st party games can move consoles especially early in the generation.

I was actually referring to Wii Sports lol
But yeah

Originally Posted by radgamer420

Oh yeah of course not. In fact PS2 main success was based on 3rd party games that Xbox didnt have.

Exclusives!
They are important, 3rd or 1st party
Its just how popular they are

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**radgamer420** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by TGO

I was actually referring to Wii Sports lol But yeah Exclusives! They are important, 3rd or 1st party Its just how popular they are Sent via Codec

Of course. But I was just referring to 3rd party games vs 1st party games. Never said exclusives weren't important.

**Vulgotha** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by Soldier 95B

It seems that with both consoles now being pretty much equal on exclusives and third party, as well as motion devices and performance, it might end up coming down to marketing and media services for each console. That is a tight race.

MS has the edge on both of those easily.

**TGO** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by radgamer420

Of course. But I was just referring to 3rd party games vs 1st party games. Never said exclusives weren't important.

Oh well a very successful series being exclusive will shift consoles over a new first party IP

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**AaronSOLDIER** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by The Sith

It hasbeen proven this gen that first party games doesnt move consoles.

Yeah ok lol

Uncharted, Halo, GOW, GT5 etc. have proven this wrong.

**ps3freak18** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER

Yeah ok lol

Uncharted, Halo, GOW, GT5 etc. have proven this wrong.

Yeah I don't see how that is a valid argument as well. Exclusives are the cornerstones that consoles found themselves on. They apparently matter enough for console companies to back certain titles. I.E.-Mario and Zelda with Nintendo, Halo and Gears with MS, and GOW and Uncharted for Sony.

**Soldier 95B** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by Vulgotha

MS has the edge on both of those easily.

This gen. They could drop the ball there with next gen, and Sony could pick up where MS left off and have much better advertising and media services.

**ps3freak18** · 01-23-2013

Originally Posted by The Sith

MGS4 did move consles ...im saying that Sony cant count on all first party titles to spike sales.

Some will do the trick others won't.

**radgamer420** · 01-24-2013

Originally Posted by TGO

Oh well a very successful series being exclusive will shift consoles over a new first party IP Sent via Codec

Yep, and theres alot of successful 3rd party IPs. And those are important to a console as well. Not knocking the importance of either one. Sony has a better balance of 3rd party while still having strong first party.

**D3seeker** · 01-24-2013

Interesting. I'll be the unreasonable one and go with this; They must have the power and resources to scrap everything / swap out a few key parts in a 1 to 3 month window. In all honest though I don't see why not. If this is so ....

**Lefein** · 01-24-2013

Originally Posted by D3seeker

Interesting. I'll be the unreasonable one and go with this; They must have the power and resources to scrap everything / swap out a few key parts in a 1 to 3 month window. In all honest though I don't see why not. If this is so ....

Well, think of it this way. We're all waiting to know what the CPU, GPU and RAM will look like, right? Those aren't Sony designed parts. We know the BluRay is making a comeback because it is in the latest wave of devkits. We know it will have internet, because, duh. Sony will need to design and manufacture a PCB/board as well as cooling, but that can exist on paper.

As long as Sony cemented that the PS4 would have some kind of base-line specification and architecture to the developers, they can begin their work on first generation software titles. Doing things like adding RAM, clocking parts faster or using later generation parts won't affect anything except make the games run at a higher framerate. So, does Sony have some wiggle room as long as they keep their mouth shut and don't commit to a launch window? The answer is absolutely yes. They do.