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    Jack Tretton is completely against blocking used games

    You may all breathe a sigh of relief, now.

    http://n4g.com/news/1168888/pachter-...ing-used-games

    No cray cray DRM.

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    Dates back to E3 last year, but at least you know what the thinking is at the highest levels of Sony on the subject.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    That was almost a year ago...While Im really really hoping they're still with that train of thought. But again that was a year ago....things change.
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    omg i hope they stick with this. not everyone can afford a new game this idea of no used games will kill the video game industry

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    Well, for those who buys the game used. It will be a problem for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1solidsnake View Post
    omg i hope they stick with this. not everyone can afford a new game this idea of no used games will kill the video game industry
    Not only that but try hunting down a game you love in 10 years time. Impossible unless you buy it digitally... No thanks


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    Jack Tretton is completely against blocking used games

    Quote Originally Posted by LegendaryAim View Post
    That was almost a year ago...While Im really really hoping they're still with that train of thought. But again that was a year ago....things change.
    I have to agree with that. It wont be the first time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Syphon_Filter View Post
    Well, for those who buys the game used. It will be a problem for them.
    I always buy new as well but I do benefit from selling the games I played or don't want anymore.
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    Well that's good to hear.

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    I look at the problem from another angle. Imagine if hackers coordinated a DDoS attack every time a big game released? If they take down the central network, then no one can play their games. It would wreck the industry.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    It's nice to hear such things from higher up, but as you mention it's from last year and things could potentially change. I sure hope not
    If Sony Japan has made their mind up about this then you'd think there's nothing the other divisions could really say.

    I still don't think either platform holder will go through with this..

    But I suppose, there's no smoke without fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    I look at the problem from another angle. Imagine if hackers coordinated a DDoS attack every time a big game released? If they take down the central network, then no one can play their games. It would wreck the industry.
    Never thought of that, but that is an extremely good point! I could definitely see people doing this for the 'lulz'.


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    But Jack also said the Japanese execs may think differently than him, so while this is good to hear, it doesn't mean Sony won't do it.

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    Iv never had a real problem with the used games market, i buy my games new! but its unfair for those who cant afford new games an tend to buy them used, but the problem i have is having those games blocked from being used on another console is wrong i dont see the whole point in the internet pass or whatever they call it lol an to take a game over to a mates which wont work unless he/she pays extra to get a new pass to use the game, same issue lies where a used game has to have a pass code to play its meaning paying more on top of that which could cost maybe 5-10 less than a new game in the first place so id rather buy it new.


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    There's two sides to the coin in this matter. Banning used games does satisfy publisher/developer wants allowing the Durango to appeal more to that market, making the Orbis have a lesser number of exclusives on the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextgen3 View Post
    Iv never had a real problem with the used games market, i buy my games new! but its unfair for those who cant afford new games an tend to buy them used, but the problem i have is having those games blocked from being used on another console is wrong i dont see the whole point in the internet pass or whatever they call it lol an to take a game over to a mates which wont work unless he/she pays extra to get a new pass to use the game, same issue lies where a used game has to have a pass code to play its meaning paying more on top of that which could cost maybe 5-10 less than a new game in the first place so id rather buy it new.
    Not to mention that I see this severely hurting the rental market as well, local video stores and companies like GameFly would crumble...


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    Another important thing to remember is that many gamers acquire the money they need to buy new games by selling their current games. Therefore, if the second-hand market is being removed, then new games need to be at cheaper prices. That's a middle-ground I think gamers would deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    I look at the problem from another angle. Imagine if hackers coordinated a DDoS attack every time a big game released? If they take down the central network, then no one can play their games. It would wreck the industry.
    *coughubisoftcough*

    I couldn't play Anno 2070 at release for 3 weeks because of this as uPlay was DDoS'd to death during that time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Another important thing to remember is that many gamers acquire the money they need to buy new games by selling their current games. Therefore, if the second-hand market is being removed, then new games need to be at cheaper prices. That's a middle-ground I think gamers would deal with.
    That's a really good point. Yet another way this will tank sales.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    *coughubisoftcough*

    I couldn't play Anno 2070 at release for 3 weeks because of this as uPlay was DDoS'd to death during that time.
    I didn't know that! Wow, so the game industry already knows they are throwing down the gauntlet if they do this. Seems almost suicidal. Especially if this happened to a game like Call of Duty..
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    *coughubisoftcough*

    I couldn't play Anno 2070 at release for 3 weeks because of this as uPlay was DDoS'd to death during that time.
    Don't forget this gem:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

    Could you imagine 24 days of no game sales because people couldn't register the game!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    I look at the problem from another angle. Imagine if hackers coordinated a DDoS attack every time a big game released? If they take down the central network, then no one can play their games. It would wreck the industry.
    Or mother nature.

    Steam had an outage a few years ago due to storms.

    This is a local shop for local people you have no business here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Don't forget this gem:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

    Could you imagine 24 days of no game sales because people couldn't register the game!
    Lol yep.

    This kind of stuff just doesn't make sense for a console which is supposed to be pick up and play not pick up and fiddle around for 15mins to connect to psn install and put it some code ad register it when you bought it on disk. May as well have a pc


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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Or mother nature.

    Steam had an outage a few years ago due to storms.
    In Steam's defense, it does have an offline mode that allows you to play your games just fine.
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    I look at the problem from another angle. Imagine if hackers coordinated a DDoS attack every time a big game released? If they take down the central network, then no one can play their games. It would wreck the industry.
    Yep take the PSN crash. Could you imagine that entire time you PS3 being nothing more than expensive room decor. No thank you.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    In Steam's defense, it does have an offline mode that allows you to play your games just fine.
    Thats only if you set Steam to remember your password

    This is a local shop for local people you have no business here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    In Steam's defense, it does have an offline mode that allows you to play your games just fine.
    Steam's offline mode is shocking. You have to set it in offline before you go offline to play your games when you're offline. Argh!!
    Origin's offline though works pretty painlessly


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBettaKnow View Post
    Steam's offline mode is shocking. You have to set it in offline before you go offline to play your games when you're offline. Argh!!
    Origin's offline though works pretty painlessly


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