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    Quote Originally Posted by PSTrey View Post
    This is why I hope Sony wins back their fanbase this upcoming gen that switched to the 360. I want them to do good financially, so there will be a PS5, PS6 etc.. They've been my favorite console maker since the PS1. Sony does put out great hardware. I can't imagine a console generation without the Playstation brand.

    I think this past gen was more about Sony's frick ups more than Microsoft actually gaining ground. The price of the ps3, releasing a year later, making the console hard to develop for etc. It hurt'em big time.
    I wouldn't hold my breath. This is a normal progression of things. Nintendo can't ever win back the user base it lost to Sony. Sony can't ever win back their user base that they lost to MS.

    Of course, people will buy multiple consoles and that's what it will mostly come down to.
    All of these consoles have carved a niche and will likely retain a good number of user base until they stop doing what these people like them for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    I'd take external psu if it makes the internal cooling less expensive and the over all system smaller
    I'm not too bothered by it. I do like the sound of everything in one box but I know the PS3 can run hot at times so it's not a biggie. I think most likely both consoles will have a brick anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FableMaster View Post
    Lets hope that its easy enough on PS4 that third party devs will take advantage of it. We do not know how devs will take or dont take advantage of it yet.





    From Digital Foundry. Sorry but no special sauce for you.

    amazing how many people are clinging to this special sauce argument... this is like my third time i have to point out to other people.
    Pity you cant read very well.
    The article talks about "elsewhere" referring to other customs blocks helping the cpu.
    The DME's are specifically designed for the GPU.
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    If those measurements are in metric that would put it at 9.8 X 5.5 X 3.9 inches. That's just big enough to fit a disk in.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    I wouldn't hold my breath. This is a normal progression of things. Nintendo can't ever win back the user base it lost to Sony. Sony can't ever win back their user base that they lost to MS.

    Of course, people will buy multiple consoles and that's what it will mostly come down to.
    All of these consoles have carved a niche and will likely retain a good number of user base until they stop doing what these people like them for.
    True. I know it's not realistic to win every one of them back, but they can win some back. It all comes down to the games. It's amazing with all of Sony's early frick ups with the PS3 that they're as close, in terms of sales, as they are with the 360. That lets you know there's still a big fanbase out there.

    As long as they do well enough financially to have a PS5, PS6 etc. I'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    If those measurements are in metric that would put it at 9.8 X 5.5 X 3.9 inches. That's just big enough to fit a disk in.
    As someone else mentioned, I think it makes sense that it would be cm, not inches.
    Quote Originally Posted by PSTrey View Post
    True. I know it's not realistic to win every one of them back, but they can win some back. It all comes down to the games. It's amazing with all of Sony's early frick ups with the PS3 that they're as close, in terms of sales, as they are with the 360. That lets you know there's still a big fanbase out there.

    As long as they do well enough financially to have a PS5, PS6 etc. I'll be happy.
    Honestly I think Sony has the most experience in the gaming business and I'm saying this even though Nintendo has been in the business much longer. Sony knows what people want and while they screwed up with the PS3 price point and the hardware, they still delivered the games, for the most part...better than the others.

    Sony may drop out of its other product lines but the gaming division might be the only thing left that they will probably continue to do well. I don't even know what else they make money on anymore lol.

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    Without the time or inclination to look it up id say movies and music.

    Not to mention selling bd drives to m-soft, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    As someone else mentioned, I think it makes sense that it would be cm, not inches.


    Honestly I think Sony has the most experience in the gaming business and I'm saying this even though Nintendo has been in the business much longer. Sony knows what people want and while they screwed up with the PS3 price point and the hardware, they still delivered the games, for the most part...better than the others.

    Sony may drop out of its other product lines but the gaming division might be the only thing left that they will probably continue to do well. I don't even know what else they make money on anymore lol.

    Yeah that was me. I just wanted to work it out in inches. That's about the size of the PS2 slim minus the height. On your other point. The PlayStation brand is the life force of Sony. I don't ever see that changing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    As someone else mentioned, I think it makes sense that it would be cm, not inches.


    Honestly I think Sony has the most experience in the gaming business and I'm saying this even though Nintendo has been in the business much longer. Sony knows what people want and while they screwed up with the PS3 price point and the hardware, they still delivered the games, for the most part...better than the others.

    Sony may drop out of its other product lines but the gaming division might be the only thing left that they will probably continue to do well. I don't even know what else they make money on anymore lol.
    I agree. They just had that one screw up, and that's all it takes sometimes, with the PS3 that hurt them. Price point for the PS4 and games early on in its life cycle will be key. I think they've pretty much learned from the mistakes with the PS3 that they won't screw that up with the PS4.

    They're already announcing first, so they got that going for them. And from the rumors we've heard, the console is easy to develop for too.

    I'm ready
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Without the time or inclination to look it up id say movies and music.

    Not to mention selling bd drives to m-soft, lol.

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    Pretty much, lol. Pretty funny Microsoft buying from Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    its cm not inches
    That actually occurred to me after I posted that...but that would also be on the other extreme: Tiny.

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    Kinda hideous looking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    That actually occurred to me after I posted that...but that would also be on the other extreme: Tiny.

    Well my PS Slim is roughly 29 x 29 x 5.

    So in cubic centimeters, these measurements for the PS4 would be roughly 83% as big.

    It would still be larger than the Gamecube was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    edited...
    Wth am I looking at?




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    That would definitely explain why they code-named it Orbis. It's very elliptical. I think it looks cool, but I'd like to know how I can lay it flat. I never stand up my consoles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    That would definitely explain why they code-named it Orbis. It's very elliptical. I think it looks cool, but I'd like to know how I can lay it flat. I never stand up my consoles.
    I never do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    Kinda hideous looking...
    Ill be hooking up my laptop in a minute ti verify this design, i'm fairly certain i've seen a 720 design exactly the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    That would definitely explain why they code-named it Orbis. It's very elliptical. I think it looks cool, but I'd like to know how I can lay it flat. I never stand up my consoles.
    I think it looks *almost* cool. Also looks very impractical. LIke you said you couldn't lie it flat. The disc slot doesn't look right either. Probably an 'artistic rendition'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    Kinda hideous looking...
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    That would definitely explain why they code-named it Orbis. It's very elliptical. I think it looks cool, but I'd like to know how I can lay it flat. I never stand up my consoles.
    Guys its confirmed to be a 3d render (i.e fake)

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    Guys its confirmed to be a 3d render (i.e fake)
    Yeah kinda already figured that out

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    nope
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    I never do either.
    Yeah I don't feel safe with it standing up.




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    nope

    Yeah...nope indeed. Why have all audio/video outs on the front of the unit? And 3 HDMI ports? WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post


    nope
    Where is that from? I don't care what it looks like, as long as it's not too large. I'd be ok with it if it looked like this...sorta reminds me of Gamecube.

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