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    Next gen will be a substantial leap over current gen says Epic


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    Yeah, I mentioned this before in another thread, but it really does deserve to be reiterated. In terms of NVidia and how graphics technology overall has moved forward from when PS3 was launched, this may help put it in perspective. When the PS3 launched, it was literally a few months before the GeForce 8800 hit the market (still used dedicated pipelines at that point).. It was followed by the 9800 which was the final dedicated pipeline GPU by them and led way to the GeForce 280.

    Since then, there have been five generations of unified shader pipeline based graphics series come out. They have recently announced the GeForce 780. Also, since the PS3 came out, the fundamental hardware has changed to support DX10 and now DX11. Now, before I get dragged into what Microsoft APIs have to do with anything, you have to remember that the specidfication for hardware support changes with these (like a hardware tesselator for true DX11 support to point out an easy one).

    Even the thinking behind how these cards has shifted towards performance per watt used rather than simply the raw statistics due to how small the process is used to create these new generation processing units. In short, giant fundamental leaps have been made between then and now. The sheer amount of performance you can bleed out of these chips is in a completely different league than the generation of hardware that went into the Xbox 360 and the PS3. The gamers should reap the rewards and it certainly seems like Sony put their money where their mouth is when it comes to supporting stereoscopic 3D at 1080p and possibly even 4k.

    As much as the article is laced with marketing hype language. People should have big expectations for these new machines. It's not going to be more of the same. This is the generation that delivers on its promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    This is the generation that delivers on its promises.
    I hope so. I tire of the frame rate drops and sub HD. I hope this new gen addresses those two issues. I don't see any reason to have sub 720p games any longer....nor stuttering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I hope so. I tire of the frame rate drops and sub HD. I hope this new gen addresses those two issues. I don't see any reason to have sub 720p games any longer....nor stuttering.
    I will guarantee you that some developer out there will find a way of slowing these systems down. Hopefully they make it worth the view, though. For people that have dirty and buggy code, that's all on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I hope so. I tire of the frame rate drops and sub HD. I hope this new gen addresses those two issues. I don't see any reason to have sub 720p games any longer....nor stuttering.
    Agreed! I hope every game can pull off 1080p @ 60fps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Agreed! I hope every game can pull off 1080p @ 60fps!
    I would absolutely be shocked if they don't fix that issue since the PC crowd hammers Sony & Microsoft for not even being able to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowKingpin View Post
    I would absolutely be shocked if they don't fix that issue since the PC crowd hammers Sony & Microsoft for not even being able to do that.
    The problem is making it mandatory that the developers meet those minimal requirements, which I unfortunately don't see happening! I remember the Xbox 360 was suppose to have a 720p minimum on games when it came out, but that I know got pushed aside as well as time went on, but hopefully this next generation will be different! I want to play 1080p games on my 1080p TV damnit! (and 60 fps would be so buttery smooth!)

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    1080p needs to be mandatory across the board. I don't give a $#@! what the visuals or framerate comes out to be as a result. The consoles need a standard of quality.

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    Mixed signals all over the place, it seems a lot of people have a different idea of substantial. Just saying my idea of substantial isn't Battlefield 3 running on maxed settings, which is probably what it will be comparable to.
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    Nicer graphics are nice.

    But for me, to consider a true "substantial" leap would be in the interactivity of the game. For example, in open world games (RPGs, GTA-types etc) the world should be more unique and habitable.

    Not sure if it's doable this gen; but I've been yearning for this more than gfx, for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    1080p needs to be mandatory across the board. I don't give a $#@! what the visuals or framerate comes out to be as a result. The consoles need a standard of quality.
    So you'd rather have a 1080p game that might stutter, rather than a 720p that runs smoothly?

    Personally I'd rather it run smooth than look "just that much" better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-The-Rave View Post
    Mixed signals all over the place, it seems a lot of people have a different idea of substantial. Just saying my idea of substantial isn't Battlefield 3 running on maxed settings, which is probably what it will be comparable to.
    Agreed. $#@! that PCs can do now would not be a significant jump for me.

    PS1 to PS2, that was a truly significant jump for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaY_210 View Post
    So you'd rather have a 1080p game that might stutter, rather than a 720p that runs smoothly?

    Personally I'd rather it run smooth than look "just that much" better
    Ew, stuttering framerates. Obviously that's not acceptable.

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    This coming from Epic is great news because they can make some great looking games as it is right now. I'm all for a standard of 1080p without a drop off of quality.




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    This is great to read, cause all I was reading is that the transition from this gen to the next one wouldn't be significant.


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    Re-reading it, I don't see where he mentions the next consoles specifically. The writer calls for the next consoles, but the Epic guy doesn't:

    “We’re more enthusiastic now than ever about the future of high-end platforms,” explained Sweeney.

    “What we’re doing on high-end PCs is going to be representative of the future consumer gaming experience and it’s going to be awesome. It’s going to be a substantial leap over the current generation.”
    Regardless of how good games look on their high end PCs, of course console gaming will eventually reach it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's coming up this gen.

    That's how I see it anyways.
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    But... But... Patcher said....


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    It will be a substantial jump for those who dont pc game.

    The biggest jump ive witnessed was when the original playstation and dreamcast came out and 3d gaming was born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    It will be a substantial jump for those who dont pc game.
    I'm hoping it's right up there with PC games tbh. I have no technical prowess to suggest why I think it might be the case or anything, but I haz faith!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooper71 View Post
    But... But... Patcher said....
    I thought I remembered him saying something like "Next gen wasn't going to be that much of a leap over this gen", lol. That guy is a clown.

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    Watching squares tech demo and ubisofts watch dogs, I think next Gen graphics will be ok for me. And to think of what Sony Devs will do with the ps4? Can't wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitey View Post
    I'm hoping it's right up there with PC games tbh. I have no technical prowess to suggest why I think it might be the case or anything, but I haz faith!
    I am getting caught up on this hype train too much. Tired of setting my pc for Tv before playing games...

    I will trade slightly better PC graphics (assumption) for convenience and exclusives.

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    I honestly wouldn't mind a solid 30 FPS if it means crazy textures, lighting, particle effect increases etc. 30 FPS has never bothered me and 60 FPS has never wowed me.


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    well it better be a substantial leap otherwise what the hell are we shelling out money for?


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