PSU's Official PlayStation Meeting Livestream Discussion Thread

[Nitey]

It was so obvious Planetisde 2 was in the works.

Hope it's free to play still, that would be so epic. Here's your new console and oh by the way, there's an MMO shooter waiting for you to download for free when you get home

Yeah Andy House mentioned the platform will allow for developers to explore more than ever the idea of F2P and episodic based content

Fuck out da way, fuck out da way, Sony cumin through yall, fuck out da way.

Bust yo shit up!!

[Bligmerk]

That Jaguar is a failed AMD mobile CPU for tablets. The answer has to be IBM and Nvidia bid too high and AMD was the lowest bidder.The super GPU sounds like a consolized 7850. But, it also makes huge economic sense for Sony and the business reality is that all development and tools, as well as engines, are on the PC in the first place, so having an x86 architecture is a huge savings in development cost as well as cost to market for the hardware. It is a new Kazified Sony, although it looks like he has been letting House do the management of the Playstation division. The other rather startling fact is the lead systems architect is American, not Japanese. So, have to give it to Stringer, he has been keeping this guy totally unknown and incognito for at least 4 years and sounding like possibly 6 years. Don't know which was supposed to be the bigger news. Pretty sure now, that multi-media accelerator daughter chip is the Cell-Evo, that Toshiba is using in their UltraHD TV's. So, the CPU, the GPU and the MMU all have access to the same 8GB GDDR5 unified memory. The CPU sounds underpowered and the GPU is already last generation for PC's, the MMU may be the wild card to making this a powerhouse for several years. But it shows this is the new Sony. This is not a 10 year console.

[Sufi]

That. Oh well will find out soon

As for Planetside 2 I'm actually i bit surprised. In a good way of course

Surprised?

Google planetside 2 developer.

I'd be surprised if WoW came out on it.

[Blacksite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY

not sure if it'll embed but the link above is the full 2 hours

I've added it to the OP. There should be no other threads asking about the video now.

[Sufi]

That Jaguar is a failed AMD mobile CPU for tablets. The answer has to be IBM and Nvidia bid too high and AMD was the lowest bidder.The super GPU sounds like a consolized 7850. But, it also makes huge economic sense for Sony and the business reality is that all development and tools, as well as engines, are on the PC in the first place, so having an x86 architecture is a huge savings in development cost as well as cost to market for the hardware. It is a new Kazified Sony, although it looks like he has been letting House do the management of the Playstation division. The other rather startling fact is the lead systems architect is American, not Japanese. So, have to give it to Stringer, he has been keeping this guy totally unknown and incognito for at least 4 years and sounding like possibly 6 years. Don't know which was supposed to be the bigger news. Pretty sure now, that multi-media accelerator daughter chip is the Cell-Evo, that Toshiba is using in their UltraHD TV's. So, the CPU, the GPU and the MMU all have access to the same 8GB GDDR5 unified memory. The CPU sounds underpowered and the GPU is already last generation for PC's, the MMU may be the wild card to making this a powerhouse for several years. But it shows this is the new Sony. This is not a 10 year console.

The size and speed of RAM is enough to last it another 10 years. So I disagree with this part.

[MonkeyClaw]

That Jaguar is a failed AMD mobile CPU for tablets. The answer has to be IBM and Nvidia bid too high and AMD was the lowest bidder.The super GPU sounds like a consolized 7850. But, it also makes huge economic sense for Sony and the business reality is that all development and tools, as well as engines, are on the PC in the first place, so having an x86 architecture is a huge savings in development cost as well as cost to market for the hardware. It is a new Kazified Sony, although it looks like he has been letting House do the management of the Playstation division. The other rather startling fact is the lead systems architect is American, not Japanese. So, have to give it to Stringer, he has been keeping this guy totally unknown and incognito for at least 4 years and sounding like possibly 6 years. Don't know which was supposed to be the bigger news. Pretty sure now, that multi-media accelerator daughter chip is the Cell-Evo, that Toshiba is using in their UltraHD TV's. So, the CPU, the GPU and the MMU all have access to the same 8GB GDDR5 unified memory. The CPU sounds underpowered and the GPU is already last generation for PC's, the MMU may be the wild card to making this a powerhouse for several years. But it shows this is the new Sony. This is not a 10 year console.

They will be able to turn a profit faster with this design though, and if they keep with the x86 architecture then future PlayStations will easily be able to be upgraded throughout the years maintaining full backwards compatibility and we can start to expect new generations every 5-6 years again instead of this 7-8 year stuff.

[PeanutButterMunky]

They will be able to turn a profit faster with this design though, and if they keep with the x86 architecture then future PlayStations will easily be able to be upgraded throughout the years maintaining full backwards compatibility and we can start to expect new generations every 5-6 years again instead of this 7-8 year stuff.

Pretty much. I'm sure there was a great deal of pride swallowing to move to AMD hardware, but it will be so much better for them in the longrun... and for us.

[admartian]

Damn straight I was!

Haven't seen anything yet which is tempting me to part with money on day 1. Everyone is saying 'wait for E3' - okay, let's do that, but those of you who've been here for some years will remember the aged old "wait for..." statements that plagued these forums for years (Wait for Haze, wait for Home, wait for Lair, Wait for <any one of a million other wait for statements>)

Haters'Gon'Hate.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/psn-transfers-ps4/

Not surprised that you posted that.

[MATRIX 2]

Haters'Gon'Hate.



Not surprised that you posted that.

You should be surprised that Sony even made that into news by allowing it to be the case.

[admartian]

You should be surprised that Sony even made that into news by allowing it to be the case.

Ok man, anything to float your boat.

[MATRIX 2]

Ok man, anything to float your boat.

I personally don't give a damn (not owning any psn content myself). But, don't try to spin this. It is what it is. Have fun paying again to "stream" the playstation games you already own.

[PeanutButterMunky]

You should be surprised that Sony even made that into news by allowing it to be the case.

Why would they hide that fact? That notion is silly.

[MATRIX 2]

Why would they hide that fact? That notion is silly.

Not hiding it. But not allowing for the content to transfer over.

[PeanutButterMunky]

Not hiding it. But not allowing for the content to transfer over.

Yes, it does blow.

[admartian]

I personally don't give a damn (not owning any psn content myself). But, don't try to spin this. It is what it is. Have fun paying again to "stream" the playstation games you already own.

Who's trying to spin? How did you construe "spinning" from two non-emotive sentences I posted???

Sure bro. Just keep posting these types of things, and keep talking shit down. Quite frankly it's getting old.

[admartian]

Not hiding it. But not allowing for the content to transfer over.

If you read the (barely even) "article" that you, yourself posted; Shuhei said that they haven't decided - meaning "not allowing" is just as wrong as "allowing"...

[Ghost-Rhayne]

If you read the (barely even) "article" that you, yourself posted; Shuhei said that they haven't decided - meaning "not allowing" is just as wrong as "allowing"...

Nope, that's not what I'm reading. Sony won't allow it cause they are money grabbing assholes. Also, try and bring truth into the Sony FUD endeavours and I will infract you.

[PeanutButterMunky]

Nope, that's not what I'm reading. Sony won't allow it cause they are money grabbing assholes. Also, try and bring truth into the Sony FUD endeavours and I will infract you.

LOL... oh dear.

[admartian]

Nope, that's not what I'm reading. Sony won't allow it cause they are money grabbing assholes. Also, try and bring truth into the Sony FUD endeavours and I will infract you.

So should it then read:

There are two ways: emulation or cloud service. But native support, no, sorry. [redacted]. We know who purchased what as a record. But we are working on service plans, and [redacted]."

OG quote:

There are two ways: emulation or cloud service. But native support, no, sorry. We could do so if we choose to. We know who purchased what as a record. But we are working on service plans, and we haven't decided."

And tbh - much like the MS apologists about disc swapping etc - which is a bigger deal imo but never the fuck mind - I'm sure we've all come accustomed to the no BC that these modern consoles (don't) bring.

Which interestingly enough; is a trend MS started.... Funny that...

[MATRIX 2]

If you read the (barely even) "article" that you, yourself posted; Shuhei said that they haven't decided - meaning "not allowing" is just as wrong as "allowing"...

What is there to decide about? Why wouldn't you want the content to transfer over?

I posted an article. If that article is factually incorrect, then that is the fault of whoever wrote and published it, not mine.

What I can essentially guarantee you is that pretty much all xbl content bought on the 360 will transfer over to the next xbox. Which is how it should be since that is the point of a unified online system.

It is a bit disturbing that sony hasn't decided yet when we are fairly close to launch.

[Ghost-Rhayne]

So should it then read:

OG quote:

And tbh - much like the MS apologists about disc swapping etc - which is a bigger deal imo but never the fuck mind - I'm sure we've all come accustomed to the no BC that these modern consoles (don't) bring.

Which interestingly enough; is a trend MS started.... Funny that...

Hehe

[mynd]

OK, so Ive been sleeping, what have I missed?
Any new info on the PS4 2nd chip etc?

[PeanutButterMunky]

OK, so Ive been sleeping, what have I missed?
Any new info on the PS4 2nd chip etc?

The 2nd chip makes glazed ham.

[MonkeyClaw]

OK, so Ive been sleeping, what have I missed?
Any new info on the PS4 2nd chip etc?

None of the PSN games, etc. will transfer over to the new machine, it will play used games, doesn't need an always connection internet connection...that's about it! Oh, and the developers didn't know about the 8GB until last night either, so all those demos, etc. were based off of 4GB!

[admartian]

None of the PSN games, etc. will transfer over to the new machine, it will play used games, doesn't need an always connection internet connection...that's about it! Oh, and the developers didn't know about the 8GB until last night either, so all those demos, etc. were based off of 4GB!

TBF that part isn't confirmed yet. And even if at launch that they don't support it; knowing that FW updates could possibly add to it.