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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    The aggregation of marginal gains.






    They are a crutch.
    A "clean" person will have to put a lot more effort into the training to gain a tenth per lap than if they were on the drugs.
    If they didn't make it easier and enhance performance people wouldn't use them.
    Not strictly true.. From what I understand the way they are used at the highest level of sport is totally different to the way they are used by fat lazy people who hang out at the gym for a few hours a week and want to get the maximum effect for as little effort as possible.. It ain't a matter of being lazy, it's a way to boost your performance past that of what you could gain naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malt View Post
    Not strictly true.. From what I understand the way they are used at the highest level of sport is totally different to the way they are used by fat lazy people who hang out at the gym for a few hours a week and want to get the maximum effect for as little effort as possible.. It ain't a matter of being lazy, it's a way to boost your performance past that of what you could gain naturally.
    An athlete can gain that performance naturally but it just takes more effort and time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    An athlete can gain that performance naturally but it just takes more effort and time.
    Every single person ever born will hit a plateaux where they absolutely will not get any bigger, faster better, etc and no amount of extra training will make a difference. You can only max yourself out as far as your genetics will allow, the people who use performance enhancing drugs at the very highest level do so when they hit that plateaux to artificially increase their capacity. They are already pushing themselves to their limits with training, nutrition, legal supplements, etc. Its not possible to put more time and effort in than they are already doing..

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