US government to sue Lance Armstrong

[keefy]

He should have kept his big trap shut. I guess he thought the people would have sympathy and it would all blow over and go away.

What a snakey slimey weasel of a man he is.

The US government has joined a lawsuit against Lance Armstrong after talks with his lawyers broke down.
The suit argues Armstrong defrauded the American public by insisting he was not using drugs while riding for the publicly funded US Postal Service team.
Last month, Armstrong admitted using performance-enhancing drugs during all seven of his Tour de France wins.
The suit, filed by his former team-mate Floyd Landis, aims to recover sponsorship money from Armstrong.
"Lance Armstrong and his cycling team took more than $30m from the US Postal Service based on their contractual promise to play fair and abide by the rules - including the rules against doping," said Ronald C Machen Jr, US Attorney for the District of Columbia.


"The Postal Service has now seen its sponsorship unfairly associated with what has been described as 'the most sophisticated, professionalised, and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen'.
"This lawsuit is designed to help the Postal Service recoup the tens of millions of dollars it paid out based on years of broken promises.
"In today's economic climate, the Postal Service is simply not in a position to allow Lance Armstrong or any of the other defendants to walk away with the tens of millions of dollars they illegitimately procured."
Armstrong's legal team had tried to convince the US government not to join the so-called 'whistleblowing' lawsuit filed by Landis, who himself admitted using drugs throughout his career.
"Lance and his representatives worked constructively over these last weeks with federal lawyers to resolve this case fairly, but those talks failed because we disagree about whether the Postal Service was damaged," said Armstrong's counsel Robert Luskin.
"The Postal Services's own studies show that the Service benefited tremendously from its sponsorship - benefits totalling more than $100m."
By flagging up allegations of fraud, Landis could receive a substantial share of any money recovered from Armstrong under the federal False Claims Act. The law, introduced by President Lincoln in 1863, stipulates the person bringing the lawsuit can receive 15-25% of any damages.
Armstrong ended years of denial in January during an interview with chat show host Oprah Winfrey in which he described doping as part of the process of winning the Tour.
The 41-year-old has since said he will not agree to be interviewed under oath by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (Usada).
Armstrong was charged by Usada in June 2012 with using performance-enhancing drugs.
He filed a lawsuit against the organisation the following month, accusing it of "corrupt inducements" to other cyclists to testify against him.
However, Armstrong then announced in August that he would not fight the doping charges filed against him, and was given a life ban by Usada and stripped of his Tour de France titles.
Armstrong won seven Tour de France titles between 1999 and 2005. The US Postal Service sponsored the team between 1996 and 2004.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21553680

[MonkeyClaw]

From what I have also heard is that he was a severe a-hole to the people he worked with as well...never been a fan of him to begin with...

[weskurtz81]

Bet it will be a net loss for the US Government when it's all said and done.

[Ghost-Rhayne]

So glad this cunt has lost his legacy and will go down in history as a fraud. Fucking asshole...Good job!

[PeanutButterMunky]

I'm sorry but "performance-enhancing" drugs do not give you talent.

[reasonable_doubt]

I'm sorry but "performance-enhancing" drugs do not give you talent.

True, but it does give u an edge in physical abilities and what Amstrong does for a living( or any other sport ) require no/minimal amount of talent. Just mainly physical abilities, and that is why I still don't understand why Athletes get pay more than Engineers.

[PeanutButterMunky]

True, but it does give u an edge in physical abilities and what Amstrong does for a living( or any other sport ) require no/minimal amount of talent. Just mainly physical abilities, and that is why I still don't understand why Athletes get pay more than Engineers.

Just to let you know, Lance Armstrong wasn't the only person doing "performance-enhancing drugs" when he was competing. He is a douche nozzle, though.

Athletes and movie stars are horribly overpaid.

[weskurtz81]

Cycling was basically a PED contest for a long time. Who has the best doping program? Answer..... Lance!

[keefy]

I'm sorry but "performance-enhancing" drugs do not give you talent.

You are right they do not there has to be at least some talent there.
What they are is a crutch for those that do not want to go the extra mile to gain the edge so they juice themselves up.

Just to let you know, Lance Armstrong wasn't the only person doing "performance-enhancing drugs" when he was competing. He is a douche nozzle, though.

He wasnt the only one but he went to ridiculous lengths to protect his image suing anyone that accused him even his friends and he was involved in "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen".
With reports of team mate saying he pressured them into taking drugs or he will have them removed from the squad.

There is a word for people like him. Narcissist I think fits him well.

[Sub-stance1]

Lance days have been numbered for a while. When the Feds got hold of Cheryl Crow I knew it wouldn't be long before he would fall. She knew he was juicing and her statement after he confessed proves it.

[Sylar]

nice one karma

[djpenny]

can we let this guy be ?? this guy bike to the moon and singed this is a wonderful world at the same damn time

[keefy]

can we let this guy be ?? this guy bike to the moon and singed this is a wonderful world at the same damn time

I he didn't do what he did do then these governing bodies wouldn't do what they have to do.

[Morganator]

nice one karma

Not a product of karma. The cancer was but not his getting caught.

[keefy]

Why did LAnce do the Oprah show?

He thought he would have a ball.

Any more Lance jokes?

[x6teen3]

You are right they do not there has to be at least some talent there.
What they are is a crutch for those that do not want to go the extra mile to gain the edge so they juice themselves up.


He wasnt the only one but he went to ridiculous lengths to protect his image suing anyone that accused him even his friends and he was involved in "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen".
With reports of team mate saying he pressured them into taking drugs or he will have them removed from the squad.

There is a word for people like him. Narcissist I think fits him well.

and what might that be?

99% of athletes in every sport are on peds. nba, nfl, baseball, cricket, ufc/mma etc. a friend of mine who is natural was contacted by a large company asking him to became a representative for them a.k.a sponsorships. but only under the condition that he starts taking AAS but claim that he's natural. once you publicly say you aren't natural and take/taken steroids, you're automatically put on the blacklist for sponsors.

how is lance narcissistic? he likes competitive cycling and had ambitions to get to the top and he was willing to do whatever it takes. in hollywood actresses (im not sure about the guys) have to fuck their way to the top. in professional sport they have to take peds. how else do you think records are being broken every year?

the only reason why lance is getting all the shit for it is because he's the one coming first. all the people that lost to him want to get rid of the competition not because they want a fair race.

all of the pressure put on athletes to give a good performance and do things the human body wouldn't ever be capable of doing naturally was put on by the audience and the money that they'd be willing to spend to go across the world to see them perform.

[PeanutButterMunky]

You are right they do not there has to be at least some talent there.
What they are is a crutch for those that do not want to go the extra mile to gain the edge so they juice themselves up.

They're not a crutch, nor are they some miracle magic. If someone sucks they're going to suck even after juicing. Talent isn't a small part of it, it's a large part of it.

It's kind of like Venom's embryonic alien suit. When it left him and attached itself to Spidey, Spidey got some enhanced powers, but he was still the same size and wasn't really all that much better. But attached to Eddy Brock, Eddy Brock became a huge effing beast because he was an Olympic weightlifter in his normal life. The suit only served to enhance what was already there.

I thank you for taking the time to read my nerdy analogy.

Now here's an awesome image of Venom and Carnage molesting Spider-Man and Iron Man:

[keefy]

and what might that be?

The aggregation of marginal gains.

They're not a crutch, nor are they some miracle magic. If someone sucks they're going to suck even after juicing. Talent isn't a small part of it, it's a large part of it.

It's kind of like Venom's embryonic alien suit. When it left him and attached itself to Spidey, Spidey got some enhanced powers, but he was still the same size and wasn't really all that much better. But attached to Eddy Brock, Eddy Brock became a huge effing beast because he was an Olympic weightlifter in his normal life. The suit only served to enhance what was already there.

I thank you for taking the time to read my nerdy analogy.

Now here's an awesome image of Venom and Carnage molesting Spider-Man and Iron Man:

They are a crutch.
A "clean" person will have to put a lot more effort into the training to gain a tenth per lap than if they were on the drugs.
If they didn't make it easier and enhance performance people wouldn't use them.

[x6Teen]

The aggregation of marginal gains.

They are a crutch.
A "clean" person will have to put a lot more effort into the training to gain a tenth per lap than if they were on the drugs.
If they didn't make it easier and enhance performance people wouldn't use them.

no

a vast majority of the popular competitive sports you watch on TV are close to, if not impossible to do. you think you can train for the tour de france all day without anti-cortisol? or do weight training any more than 2 hours? or get tackled by 300lb+ men and be fine for the rest of the game and the day after? get kicked, knee'd or punched in the head, torso, legs etc. by professionals who were trained for decades on how to break bones and put a person to sleep and then be back to 100% 1 or 2 days later? the list goes on.

you cant train you're way into doing things you weren't designed to do. do you think humans were meant to cycle for 2000 miles?

and the fact is that without PEDs, sport wouldn't even be worth watching or talking about and it would just be the same thing over and over again.

and you say that a natural has to put more effort into training and that's simply not true. where exactly are they putting more effort in? people on PEDs train 10x longer, more incentive to train, more intense and with more dedication in most of the cases.

[PeanutButterMunky]

They are a crutch.
A "clean" person will have to put a lot more effort into the training to gain a tenth per lap than if they were on the drugs.
If they didn't make it easier and enhance performance people wouldn't use them.

-sigh-

[keefy]

I think you guys use such things. Thats what I think.

[x6Teen]

I think you guys use such things. Thats what I think.

what makes you think that? because we actually know what we're talking about?

[PeanutButterMunky]

I think you guys use such things. Thats what I think.

Profound. Truly.