How Microsoft can avoid the pitfalls of Sony's PS4 announcement

[admartian]

Tell everyone everything about the PS4 at the first reveal would be stealing the show? It'd be pretty stupid.....same with the next Xbox reveal. They shouldn't reveal everything, the console won't be coming out in a couple of days.

This.

It's not like Apple or Samsung when they reveal, that the phones/devices are out within 1-10 days of the event.

[radgamer420]

Tell everyone everything about the PS4 at the first reveal would be stealing the show? It'd be pretty stupid.....same with the next Xbox reveal. They shouldn't reveal everything, the console won't be coming out in a couple of days.

Agreed. Some people here have pretty bizarre logic. +rep

[Sub-stance1]

Tell everyone everything about the PS4 at the first reveal would be stealing the show? It'd be pretty stupid.....same with the next Xbox reveal. They shouldn't reveal everything, the console won't be coming out in a couple of days.

Then you agree that the bar wasn't set very high?

[claud3]

Agreed. Some people here have pretty bizarre logic. +rep

Wait their sir, i never have weird logic. I have weird post and that what makes me the elbow to you're shoulder

[sainraja]

Then you agree that the bar wasn't set very high?

What do you want me to base that on?

I was impressed with what they showed. I expected to see the console as well but I wasn't surprised when they didn't.

Now, I wasn't expecting them to show any games at this reveal (surprise for me.) So, they showed more than I was expecting (I was expecting to see console design, hardware specs, and a little bit about the OS.)

[admartian]

Wait their sir, i never have weird logic. I have weird post and that what makes me the elbow to you're shoulder

You were made for the internet claud3.

[claud3]

You were made for the internet claud3.

Yep that is what my mum keeps telling me

[Sub-stance1]

What do you want me to base that on?

I was impressed with what they showed. I expected to see the console as well but I wasn't surprised when they didn't.

Now, I wasn't expecting them to show any games at this reveal (surprise for me.) So, they showed more than I was expecting (I was expecting to see console design, hardware specs, and a little bit about the OS.)

I was impressed with certain things too but I still say they didn't set the bar extremely high because they left out some key things that were important to me. I was asking you if you thought the same based on what I described and what you said about them not revealing everything. Was the bar set extremely high? IMO it wasn't.

[LfCpS3]

Show that the hardware is as good as the ps4, disprove the always online/no used games rumours and show a strong support for Core gamers by producing a very good launch of new IPs ( AND MOST IMPORTANTLY new IPs that have the variety of what SONY offer)

Also as long as I can use the nextbox 100% without the use of the kinect, I will be fine. **** the moving my arms around to navigate/ having to use voice commands.

Good price too of course.

PS, I personally think SONY will win E3. I have more faith in them providing games to my taste.

[Two4DaMoney]

If this is true...

To add insult to Microsoft’s injuries, fresh rumors are circulating regarding Durango’s spec. Apparently the machine is woefully underpowered compared to PS4, with some now saying they don’t expect Microsoft to even talk raw tech when it announces the machine.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/ps4-...-says-it-does/

I don't really believe it though

[Sub-stance1]

If this is true...



http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/ps4-...-says-it-does/

I don't really believe it though

Hoping? I'm not even a tech person and I know that probably won't matter......if it's true.

[Two4DaMoney]

Hoping?

what? you make no sense.

[RugerRellP89]

How to win the hype battle?

1. Hype the hardcores with hot game announcements and GAMEPLAY, they will do the job. (New Gears of War, New RARE Game that is not Kinect or have stupid characters or concepts (Killer Instinct?).
2. Give developers a hardware as good as the Xbox 360 was back in 2005.
3. Buy a. Ninja Theory b. Remedy Games or c. Imsomniac (nearly impossible but well...)
4. Understand that Hardcores (those who're going to hype your console to hell and back if they're happy) don't give a sh*t about Kinect.
5. You better go DDR5... though there are some rumors over Neogaf that MS is working on a "cheaper" way to widen the bandwidth without going DDR5. They might not win the brute-force battle... but price is king nowadays. That's what made them beat Sony in this generation in terms of console sales... even with the RROD Nightmare.

Anyway... I know we all want the absolute best in one place, but that's not gonna happen so I guess a show like this (unlikely but not impossible) will do the job.

You do realize the Xbox 360 has been out a year more than the PS3 and they are pretty much tied right now in terms of console sales? So in reality the PS3 has sold more in the first six years then the Xbox 360 has.

[TEJ2025]

If this is true...



http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/ps4-...-says-it-does/

I don't really believe it though

There's no way this is true (foot in mouth if it is). It might not be as powerful as the PS4 but it won't be woefully under powered as suggested.

[Ixion]

To be honest, Sony did everything I wanted from an event like this. The box is not important, nor should we expect the price so early, so these are the four main things I'm looking for in an unveiling:

-Show a clear vision
-Unveil powerful specs
-Show some very useful, innovative features
-Show plenty of games, including a handful of exclusives

And Sony delivered. So I would like Microsoft to do those four things as well. Obviously it would be wonderful to have more detail into the new Xbox Live and other aspects, but it would be silly to expect every detail at a 2-hour event.

Also, I hate motion gaming. I'm hoping Microsoft doesn't emphasize Kinect too much, but that's wishful thinking.

[Ghost-Rhayne]

You do realize the Xbox 360 has been out a year more than the PS3 and they are pretty much tied right now in terms of console sales? So in reality the PS3 has sold more in the first six years then the Xbox 360 has.

Oh you silly silly boy. Don't you know that the US is the only market in the whole wide world? Also, the US is the only important market, all other sales in the EU, Japan and other regions are not important,so your point is void.

[PottSie2]

Let's hope they have more than another Halo and Forza sequel.

Couldn't even finish Halo 4 it was that lacklustre.

[radgamer420]

Let's hope they have more than another Halo and Forza sequel. Couldn't even finish Halo 4 it was that lacklustre.

Yeah I even got bored with Spartan Ops and eventually I just stopped playing the episodes. MS needs some fresh new IPs badly.

[Sparc]

Use more dynamic and personable presenters. Cut out the crap, totally unfunny puns and show something that makes you think "ooo...I can't do that with my current architecture" and I think you have a good unveil.

The Sony unveil was lacklustre, wordy and 9/10ths boring. However it doesn't say anything bad about the PS4, just more about the presentation itself and what they chose to show. I'm confident the PS4 will actually be an impressive console, just miffed I saw very little that showed that in the unveil. Looks like the attending media largely felt the same.

With the MS presentation I have much larger concerns. I'm sure they'll do a great job of presenting it but I'm very concerned that gaming on the 360's successor will almost be secondary to what else the box will do. I can't help also feel that they are really going hard at the casual market which frankly scares the bejesus out of me. Small, cheap to make, gimmicky Kinect games rolled out by the dozen, over hardcore games for the likes of us. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but I'm not betting on it.

[Ixion]

Deleted all the cheese/wine posts. Let's talk about the conference people.

[Yungstar 2006]

Show that the hardware is as good as the ps4

did Sony show hardware?

disprove the always online/no used games rumours

Last week Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida confirmed that used games will function on PlayStation 4, but did not clarify whether players would have 'original owner rights' to second hand games, or need to pay for online passes to access the content.
Pushed on the issue, Sony's Denny would only acknowledge that the firm would do what it sees as "the right thing" by both consumers and the development community.
"It's not something that I feel I have any further announcement or comment to make on, other than to acknowledge with you that it's a massively important issue and of course we are going to do the right thing," he said.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com

and show a strong support for Core gamers by producing a very good launch of new IPs ( AND MOST IMPORTANTLY new IPs that have the variety of what SONY offer)

New IP's like.... The Knack or updated games like Killzone and InFamous. right. got you.

[Ixion]

New IP's like.... The Knack or updated games like Killzone and InFamous. right. got you.

Knack, DriveClub, and The Witness are all new, exclusive IPs, made by people who have made great games.

And you mentioned in another thread that Sony didn't show any of their AAA franchises. I'm assuming you don't count Killzone and inFamous?

[Sub-stance1]

Knack, DriveClub, and The Witness are all new, exclusive IPs, made by people who have made great games.

And you mentioned in another thread that Sony didn't show any of their AAA franchises. I'm assuming you don't count Killzone and inFamous?

I don't think the witness is exclusive though.

[Ixion]

I don't think the witness is exclusive though.

It's timed exclusive, and they don't have a relationship with Microsoft, so they have no plans to make it for Xbox as of now.

[Sub-stance1]

It's timed exclusive, and they don't have a relationship with Microsoft, so they have no plans to make it for Xbox as of now.

Maybe but I know it's coming for PC and ios too.