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    Crytek: console companies could die off if they "go beyond what we say is next gen"

    Never one to pass up the opportunity for a grand statement, Crytek's founder and CEO Cevat Yerli has told OXM that it would be "physically and financially impossible" to release a next generation Xbox that exceeds Crytek's own estimated specifications.

    "We have been saying CryEngine 3 is next-gen ready for years now," he told us in an interview published in our latest issue, which goes on sale Friday 15th March. "The reason I'm saying that is - and this is before we knew the specs, because three years ago nobody knew - it's impossible to go too far beyond what we say today is next gen because it would cost too much."

    "It would be prohibitively expensive to launch a next-gen console beyond what we say is next gen," Yerli asserted. "It would potentially be a death knell for at least one company."Crytek has constructed its vaunted CryEngine 3 - which is "three years ahead" of Epic's Unreal Engine 4, don't you know - in accordance with

    these predictions, without much in the way of manufacturer input. "If you take in the cost of making a console, the parts of it, and say, 'okay, that has to be better than the best PC experience at that time plus two years later'," Yerli explained.

    "And you want a package - a $200, $300, $400 package. It's just physically and financially impossible to go higher, so you have to bring it down again, and our guestimates have been quite right."

    I've posted a video of CryEngine 3 in action below, from April last year. S$#@!, no? At the time, Yerli opined that "this kind of realism will be playing a big focus in the next generation. And higher resolution texturing, like in the film industry, where you have effectively no limits on texture sizes.

    "In the games, you used to have 256 by 256 textures, those limits will go up to...pretty much as much memory as you have in your PC. The new texturing will become a big topic as well."

    Also in April last year, Crytek's director of creative development Rasmus Hojengaard told the world that a pre-owned block in next generation consoles would be "absolutely awesome" from a "business perspective". Kaa-ching, etc.
    Do pick up a copy of issue 97, if you get the chance. Our cover story is a

    gargantuan preview of Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, backed by equally mahoosive write-ups of Bungie's Destiny and The Witcher 3 - all of them, incidentally, games that will appear on the next generation Xbox. Remember - 15th March is the big day.

    Can we tempt you to take out a subscription? Because if you do so before 15th April, we'll fire over a free copy of Hitman Absolution Professional Edition, which includes an artbook and the Agency Gun Pack DLC.
    http://www.oxm.co.uk/51086/crytek-co...y-is-next-gen/

    This guy/company really need to either keep talking $#@! or just stop talking
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    The bloke is the village idiot of the gaming industry. The sheer hubris of the man. I'd feel a little sympathy for the code monkeys at Crytek for being associated with him except, they just keep making terrible games...

    Although what he says about textures is true.

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    Maybe so, but keeping it in your head means keeping it in your head.... But i guess he is looking for more exposure for him and the company.

    Feeling he is going to wrong way about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    The bloke is the village idiot of the gaming industry. The sheer hubris of the man. I'd feel a little sympathy for the code monkeys at Crytek for being associated with him except, they just keep making terrible games...

    Although what he says about textures is true.
    So. He is an idiot that speaks the truth? Kind of makes your rubishing moot realy.

    Putting that aside the mags usuallyy misquote people anyway and focus on 1 aspect of a sentence thats taken completely out of context.
    Nowhere in the article is the quote "go beyond what we say is next gen" used. ITs only in the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    So. He is an idiot that speaks the truth? Kind of makes your rubishing moot realy.
    No it doesn't

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    Crytek really think the are gods of game makeing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    The bloke is the village idiot of the gaming industry. The sheer hubris of the man. I'd feel a little sympathy for the code monkeys at Crytek for being associated with him except, they just keep making terrible games...

    Although what he says about textures is true.

    Everything he said is true.

    The man is arrogant. No doubt about that. However, he's also correct in his assessment. Not one thing he said is wrong.

    He acts like the greatest developer in the world and he's not. That's annoying. But when he talks technical he's spot on and should be listened to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    Everything he said is true.

    The man is arrogant. No doubt about that. However, he's also correct in his assessment. Not one thing he said is wrong.

    He acts like the greatest developer in the world and he's not. That's annoying. But when he talks technical he's spot on and should be listened to.
    He either states the painfully obvious as if nobody apart from him is privy to such knowledge or he just blows a lot of hot air

    Apart from the texture bit, these quotes represent the latter. The majority of what he says in general is the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Apart from the texture bit, these quotes represent the latter. The majority of what he says in general is the latter.
    The latter? You think these claims are hot air?

    Which part exactly is "hot air" in your opinion? That CryEngine 3 supports features that are not found in current generation consoles and require 'next gen' consoles to support? I can assure you that is no hot air.

    That it would be prohibitively expensive to launch a console that included graphic features beyond what developers such as him have planned to support? I think you'll find that is also equally true. So much R&D into a new console GPU would result in an expense that no one would be willing to pay. or a console so expensive that no one would buy it.

    That developing hardware that is 2 years more advanced than a high end gaming PC would cost more than $200-$400 per console to produce? I'm pretty sure you would find the cost to be 10 times that amount if you tried.


    Like I said, he's arrogant. There is no doubt about that. He has an overinflated ego for sure. But he is 100% correct in what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    The latter? You think these claims are hot air?

    Which part exactly is "hot air" in your opinion? That CryEngine 3 supports features that are not found in current generation consoles and require 'next gen' consoles to support? I can assure you that is no hot air.

    That it would be prohibitively expensive to launch a console that included graphic features beyond what developers such as him have planned to support? I think you'll find that is also equally true. So much R&D into a new console GPU would result in an expense that no one would be willing to pay. or a console so expensive that no one would buy it.

    That developing hardware that is 2 years more advanced than a high end gaming PC would cost more than $200-$400 per console to produce? I'm pretty sure you would find the cost to be 10 times that amount if you tried.


    Like I said, he's arrogant. There is no doubt about that. He has an overinflated ego for sure. But he is 100% correct in what he said.
    But what's the point? All he's doing is saying these things to make Crytek look better. Exactly like Epic did at the turn of last gen. That's how he's blowing hot air

    "In the games, you used to have 256 by 256 textures, those limits will go up to...pretty much as much memory as you have in your PC. The new texturing will become a big topic as well."

    That is the one worthwhile, topic worthy thing he says, not only here but in recent memory. Everything else, why even open your mouth Yerli?

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    shame these guys cant make games as interesting as some of the $#@!e that comes out of their gobs


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    Ok... I was wrong. Happy?

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    I totally agree, speak less and focus on what you do and that is games
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    Now that they've accomplished breathtaking visuals, they should focus on making games that aren't subpar.
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    This is one guy and these are taken from interviews, people. Exposure is part of game development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxi View Post
    This is one guy and these are taken from interviews, people. Exposure is part of game development.
    And it's this one guy that keeps boasting about his e-peen. We all get that the stuff he puts out there is usually the graphical benchmark which everything else is compared to. Running Crysis 3 at 60 FPS in HD requires a several thousand dollar investment in GPUs alone (two GTX Titans for example). At the highest resolution with everything set to max, the GTX Titan only runs the game at 25 fps, so you might need a triple SLI configuration in order to get play it with those settings. I wouldn't mind this fact, except that the game itself is usually not very good. The game is average.

    The whole "everything happens the way we say it happens or the earth will explode" mentality is just obnoxious. They are really in love with themselves. He doesn't need to keep whipping his thing out whenever the topic of consoles comes up. Consoles serve a very different purpose. And graphically their only purpose is to look better than the generation before it. Consoles can't compete with PCs at their price range. They are meant to be an affordable gaming solution. Having to spend 4 grand on a computer just to run a game at a playable frame rate on the highest settings in the highest resolution is not an affordable gaming solution.

    And for someone that keeps bashing consoles... he sure does like to port all his games to consoles.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    But what's the point? All he's doing is saying these things to make Crytek look better. Exactly like Epic did at the turn of last gen. That's how he's blowing hot air

    "In the games, you used to have 256 by 256 textures, those limits will go up to...pretty much as much memory as you have in your PC. The new texturing will become a big topic as well."

    That is the one worthwhile, topic worthy thing he says, not only here but in recent memory. Everything else, why even open your mouth Yerli?
    You don't have to read it.

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    not too sure what he said, it sounded like he said that if nextgen consoles have games better then Crysis 3 they are doomed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    not too sure what he said, it sounded like he said that if nextgen consoles have games better then Crysis 3 they are doomed?
    No, he said if they tried to make a console that was capable of running CryEngine 3 as it's supposed to, the cost of the console would be far too high to be successful in the console market. It would either have to be an insanely expensive console, or the company making said console would have to bite the bullet and take a loss for every console sold. And he's correct.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    And it's this one guy that keeps boasting about his e-peen. We all get that the stuff he puts out there is usually the graphical benchmark which everything else is compared to. Running Crysis 3 at 60 FPS in HD requires a several thousand dollar investment in GPUs alone (two GTX Titans for example). At the highest resolution with everything set to max, the GTX Titan only runs the game at 25 fps, so you might need a triple SLI configuration in order to get play it with those settings. I wouldn't mind this fact, except that the game itself is usually not very good. The game is average.

    The whole "everything happens the way we say it happens or the earth will explode" mentality is just obnoxious. They are really in love with themselves. He doesn't need to keep whipping his thing out whenever the topic of consoles comes up. Consoles serve a very different purpose. And graphically their only purpose is to look better than the generation before it. Consoles can't compete with PCs at their price range. They are meant to be an affordable gaming solution. Having to spend 4 grand on a computer just to run a game at a playable frame rate on the highest settings in the highest resolution is not an affordable gaming solution.

    And for someone that keeps bashing consoles... he sure does like to port all his games to consoles.
    It depends on what is asked of him in these interviews. The title isn't a direct quote from him. He doesn't hate consoles, and it seems like he states the obvious to us passionate gamers, but it might not be the case for other people.

    The community complained that Crysis 2 didn't make any computers stress, so they changed that with 3. It's still playable for mid-ranged computers, but it also pleases the hardcore. It's a gorgeous game.

    I personally loved Crysis 1. Although I was disappointed with 2, it was still a breath of fresh air from the standard guided shooter. 3 looks like it mixes both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxi View Post
    It depends on what is asked of him in these interviews. The title isn't a direct quote from him. He doesn't hate consoles, and it seems like he states the obvious to us passionate gamers, but it might not be the case for other people.

    The community complained that Crysis 2 didn't make any computers stress, so they changed that with 3. It's still playable for mid-ranged computers, but it also pleases the hardcore. It's a gorgeous game.

    I personally loved Crysis 1. Although I was disappointed with 2, it was still a breath of fresh air from the standard guided shooter. 3 looks like it mixes both.
    It's not so much what Crytek says that bothers me. What they said is completely accurate. You can't take something that requires the highest end PCs to run at max settings and stuff it into an affordable console. It's not ever going to happen. The cost would be too high or the company would take a massive hit on loss.

    It's just the way they go about saying this stuff that makes them sound like snarky douche knobs.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.”

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    Is this the same guy over and over again? Or is this different Crytek reps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    It's not so much what Crytek says that bothers me. What they said is completely accurate. You can't take something that requires the highest end PCs to run at max settings and stuff it into an affordable console. It's not ever going to happen. The cost would be too high or the company would take a massive hit on loss.

    It's just the way they go about saying this stuff that makes them sound like snarky douche knobs.
    It's not "them" though, it's one guy, even if he is the CEO. Written text might not give the proper tone, especially since English is not his first language. The topic is already titled worse than what he said and gives the wrong impression from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    No, he said if they tried to make a console that was capable of running CryEngine 3 as it's supposed to, the cost of the console would be far too high to be successful in the console market. It would either have to be an insanely expensive console, or the company making said console would have to bite the bullet and take a loss for every console sold. And he's correct.
    not being funny but he'll be saying the same stuff with Cryengine 4 and 5 that will be running on Nextgen consoles, with Crysis 3 PC looking like F.E.A.R compared to Killzone 3, I heard it all before and only PC guys fall for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    not being funny but he'll be saying the same stuff with Cryengine 4 and 5
    Yes... I know. That's what makes it so annoying.


    [...] that will be running on Nextgen consoles [...]
    Ports with lowered graphics, yes.


    [...] with Crysis 3 PC looking like F.E.A.R compared to Killzone 3 [...]
    Um... what? Have you even seen Crysis 3 on max settings? And Killzone 3 is a PS3 title.


    [...] I heard it all before and only PC guys fall for it [...]
    Nobody has to fall for anything, what he said is true. It's their blatantly obvious narcissism that I find annoying.
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