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    VGLeaks: First look at Durango XDK (always connected, kinect required, must install)

    http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-xdk/

    - Always on, Always connected
    - Low powered mode
    - Kinect sold with every console, wider FOV, no motors, better tracking
    - Kinect is required to be plugged in
    - Low latency controller with "improved ergonomics", simplified interaction with console OS
    - Bluray drive
    - All games must be installed on HDD [you can start playing few secs after installation starts], game data streaming from optical disc not supported
    - Only digital audio out
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    Destiny is going to be EVERYTHING that EA and MS hoped titanfall would be


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    - Kinect is required to be plugged in
    - All games must be installed on HDD
    - Game data streaming from optical disc not supported





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    Guess this was where they have been pulling some of their rumours from all this time. At least we know a source now

    That screen is too low res to read for me but from the written info it sounds like a perfect storm of next-gen horror stories. Mandatory install for every game... really?

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    All games must be installed? Is this a console or a PC?

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    I wonder why not stream from optical disc. Is it some plan about "second hand" games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MjW View Post
    I wonder why not stream from optical disc. Is it some plan about "second hand" games?
    Most likely. I can see it now.
    XBOX - This game cannot be played because someone already installed the information off this disc on another XBOX.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsJester View Post
    Most likely. I can see it now.
    XBOX - This game cannot be played because someone already installed the information off this disc on another XBOX.
    I reckon the game stores will be in on it as well. You can trade in your now useless disc into GAME/gamestop for a few pennies then they re-sell it with a validation code from the publisher. Everyone wins except the consumer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    I reckon the game stores will be in on it as well. You can trade in your now useless disc into GAME/gamestop for a few pennies then they re-sell it with a validation code from the publisher. Everyone wins except the consumer




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    Take about 30 mins to install a 50GB game.
    why cant people take proper screenshots?

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    Wow.... If true their off to a good start. Seems like a step backwards actually.

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    Mandatory always online, mandatory always Kinected & mandatory full game install

    Well MS you can mandatory $#@! off too

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    Sounds like its gonna be a great system!






    loljk wtf is this $#@!

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    Those hard drives will need to be 1TB.
    Destiny is going to be EVERYTHING that EA and MS hoped titanfall would be


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    I don't think we should care about Kinect being mandatory. From what I understood Kinect will be a standard accessory, so why not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Those hard drives will need to be 1TB.
    At least!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MjW View Post
    I don't think we should care about Kinect being mandatory. From what I understood Kinect will be a standard accessory, so why not.
    Seems completely unreasonable to require a peripheral to be plugged in for your console to even function, no? What if you don't like Kinnect and want nothing to do with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Seems completely unreasonable to require a peripheral to be plugged in for your console to even function, no? What if you don't like Kinnect and want nothing to do with it
    I'm sorry, I think, me using the word accessory is somewhat misleading. What I wanted to say is that Kinect seems to be part of the console.
    Much like the Wii sensor, which removing would render the console unusable, and thus everybody uses it.

    Now if Kinect is a vital part of the console and you don't like that part, then I guess you'll simple don't want a console you can't use.

    I understand that some people might not feel comfortable with a camera always pointed towards them but that's a problem MS has to deal with.
    I for one don't mind, specially if it's a vital part of the experience. Heck, I even have the PSEye always connected and I barely use it.

    I'll have a bigger problem finding space and positioning all these sensors and cameras since every console seems to have one. lol
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    It sounds like Microsoft would be going in the complete opposite direction of Sony since the PS4 does not require an internet connection.

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    Nobody bother to read the bit about Kinect being handled by the system, not impacting on game app at all..
    That's pretty much confirmation that there is a system CPU, independent of the game system CPU's.

    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Mandatory always online, mandatory always Kinected & mandatory full game install

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    Actually it says it will
    always maintain a network connection so that the console software and games are always current.
    With the "always on" "always connected" design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected console entertainment experiences with no waiting for the console to restart or install updates.
    That does NOT mean an online connection is required to play, they are merely stating that the network will always be checking for updates.


    Not sure where people get mandatory online from.
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    Who was HONESTLY excited for the new Xbox, anyways?
    I mean, yeah I prefer XBL to PSN just for the simple fact of Xboxs' party system and ease of being with your friends online. I still wish the PSN would work like that. I'm hoping that the PS4 takes influence from the Xbox 360 and makes it more user friendly when it comes to parties. I may buy an Xbox 360 right now just so I can play with my friends easier.

    But this is all besides the point:
    Kinect always, ALWAYS needing to be connected? That's such bull! Kinect is garbage and motion control is a gimmick and always will be. True gamers don't want or need it, I think they're incorporating it just to make 'family sales'. Because let's face it, who uses motion control and thinks its a contributor to a fun gaming experience? Children and families. I think this alone let's us all know that the Durango, 720, whatever the final name will be, is and will be marketed for the family demographic, rather than the hardcore gamers.

    We'll see though, it's too early to decide on what your opinion will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbings_ View Post
    Who was HONESTLY excited for the new Xbox, anyways?
    I mean, yeah I prefer XBL to PSN just for the simple fact of Xboxs' party system and ease of being with your friends online. I still wish the PSN would work like that. I'm hoping that the PS4 takes influence from the Xbox 360 and makes it more user friendly when it comes to parties. I may buy an Xbox 360 right now just so I can play with my friends easier.

    But this is all besides the point:
    Kinect always, ALWAYS needing to be connected? That's such bull! Kinect is garbage and motion control is a gimmick and always will be. True gamers don't want or need it, I think they're incorporating it just to make 'family sales'. Because let's face it, who uses motion control and thinks its a contributor to a fun gaming experience? Children and families. I think this alone let's us all know that the Durango, 720, whatever the final name will be, is and will be marketed for the family demographic, rather than the hardcore gamers.

    We'll see though, it's too early to decide on what your opinion will be.
    Having always connected connect is no different than having an always connected video signal or xbox controller, its part of the system, if it comes with it, it has to be connected.

    It doesn't mean devs have to use it at all, although knowing its is on all machines, and that it hold zero impact on game resources may open it up (if its fast/high res enough).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Having always connected connect is no different than having an always connected video signal or xbox controller, its part of the system, if it comes with it, it has to be connected.

    It doesn't mean devs have to use it at all, although knowing its is on all machines, and that it hold zero impact on game resources may open it up (if its fast/high res enough).
    my PS3 is always connected so PSN+ can do its updates, i take it that MS will be doing the same thing if rumour is true.

    as you rightly say.
    That does NOT mean an online connection is required to play, they are merely stating that the network will always be checking for updates.


    Not sure where people get mandatory online from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Nobody bother to read the bit about Kinect being handled by the system, not impacting on game app at all..
    That's pretty much confirmation that there is a system CPU, independent of the game system CPU's.



    Actually it says it will

    That does NOT mean an online connection is required to play, they are merely stating that the network will always be checking for updates.


    Not sure where people get mandatory online from.
    Same here. Always connected is actually a good thing IMO. So far I don't see anything that's a deal breaker. It actually sounds pretty good if it's all true.

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    Does always connected mean "online ONLY" (aka Simcity)? If so, yuck.
    But the Kinect mandatory makes sense and is not too bad. I mean, the PS4 controller will more or less require the PS Eye2.
    And the mandatory install wouldn't be bad if you don't need the Bluray to be inside the console to play. This would actually be awesome.

    if not, then yeah, it's pretty fail.

    In either case gentlemen/women; these are going to be confirmed/debunked by the time MS comes to stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Does always connected mean "online ONLY" (aka Simcity)? If so, yuck.
    But the Kinect mandatory makes sense and is not too bad. I mean, the PS4 controller will more or less require the PS Eye2.
    And the mandatory install wouldn't be bad if you don't need the Bluray to be inside the console to play. This would actually be awesome.

    if not, then yeah, it's pretty fail.
    No, it means background transfers. Not online only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    No, it means background transfers. Not online only.
    Oh cool. So kinda like the PS4 then - always downloading updated etc. Not bad at all then. Though they needed to be more clear with that.

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