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    Is there a slippery slope with $#@!sexuality?

    I have a question. I was listening to a right-wing radio show and the guy brought up a point that Iím having trouble answering. The show host said that if we allowed gay marriage then we will be on a slippery slope where eventually incest could also be allowed.

    At first I discarded it but now Iím thinking what the difference between the two is? I mean, the concepts; I know the obvious differences. So my question is, if gay marriage is allowed then what makes incest wrong?

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    Incest has been around forever and $#@!sexuality is not included in this argument.... His point is clearly flawed and he is just making it out as a fear tatic and that is all

    Anyone says the $#@!SEXUALITY is a slippery slope, really have to question their own sexuality... Those that attack, could be the same as the one's they are attacking..
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    I can't say I agree with same-sex marriage as i think marriage should be between a man and woman only. I wouldn't say $#@!sexuality is a slippery slope though. Incest is just generally a disgusting behaviour.

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    There's a reason It's called family. It's not gf/bf that I hang out with and will eventually bang. I believe gay marriage should be allowed but doing close kin is really low. I could understand somewhat if they're so far down the line that there practically not even kin.

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    I don't see a future where incest is not looked poorly upon.
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    Allowing incest is not the same as allowing gay marriage - there is no 'slippery slope'.

    Incest has negative biological implications when it comes to reproduction, so on that basis alone it is highly unlikely to become acceptable, even if it was between two people of the same sex, or a heterosexual couple without the ability to reproduce.

    The radio host sounds like he is just being alarmist in an attempt to give credit to his bigoted views.

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    well i think people should be able to marry who ever they like, if they really love them you know? but incest is just disgusting and wrong.

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    The two are in no way related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3D D3V!L View Post
    The two are in no way related.
    yeah not really. $#@!sexuality and incest are two completely different things all together

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    That is a pulling for straw argument.
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    it's pulling at something...

    But this guy, this jerk really has no idea. A logical person would just say this

    " YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE AND THE WORLD SHOULD ACCEPT THAT"

    This link to incest is so so stupid, insect is wrong on a GENE LEVEL

    The GENE POOL needs to be connect to fresh GENES and not in family GENES, because that leads to MEDICAL problems for the child that is developing and becoming an individual. Were is if it is mixed with a new strip of DNA from a none related person..

    The person grows up under a new mix and therefore the GENE POOL is expand and acknowledges the new strand it has entered into and it prevents any full on MEDICAL problems from GENE POOL EXPANSION..

    So incest is only wrong on a GENE POOL LEVEL, it is not wrong if they LOVE each other DEARLY
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    That is ridiculous! As for what's the difference? It's a whole world of difference! Marriage is a commitment between two people. It shouldn't matter who it is. I'm not claiming this is true, so no one attack me, but the only thing is, doesn't $#@!sexual relations have a higher risk for STDs? Incest, on the other hand, has the possibility for reproduction with genetic disabilities. He's just spewing bull$#@! because there's no way any reasonable, sane person can say that legalizing gay marriage can directly lead to allowing incest. Pure idiocy
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    So incest is only wrong on a GENE POOL LEVEL, it is not wrong if they LOVE each other DEARLY
    Well idk if it makes it right though..
    I mean love is love yanno..but..idk

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    Love is love and it matters..... But the DEVELOPMENT off their off spring is far more important
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    So incest is only wrong on a GENE POOL LEVEL, it is not wrong if they LOVE each other DEARLY
    The love between family, and love between a significant other are not the same kind of love. It is wrong if they have that kind of love for a family member.
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    friend i am saying... If a brother loves his sister on a sexual level fine, but if they have kids that is a whole different thing right there

    That is a near death wish to the child
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    Well, we all know there is a difference, that’s not the issue, neither is if it will lead to that. I mean, conceptually it should but I know we’re too far from letting that happen.

    I’m saying, conceptually, why is $#@!sexuality right? Why is incest wrong? If we take out the medical part away from it (and both have problems medically –maybe not with lesbians–, just that these statements are based on opinion.

    Well, if you’re talking about an opinion, everyone has them. Are we wrong to say for a brother and sister (or mix and match other relatives) that incest is wrong if they’re both doing it consensually?

    If a kid decides to have relationship with an adult, that’s wrong but who are we to judge? Correct? All of these things are based on opinion, correct? Do you guys see where I’m going with this?

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    Incestual marriage has been around for centuries. Most of the kings and queens of European countries were all related when they married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    Well, we all know there is a difference, that’s not the issue, neither is if it will lead to that. I mean, conceptually it should but I know we’re too far from letting that happen.

    I’m saying, conceptually, why is $#@!sexuality right? Why is incest wrong? If we take out the medical part away from it (and both have problems medically –maybe not with lesbians–, just that these statements are based on opinion.

    Well, if you’re talking about an opinion, everyone has them. Are we wrong to say for a brother and sister (or mix and match other relatives) that incest is wrong if they’re both doing it consensually?

    If a kid decides to have relationship with an adult, that’s wrong but who are we to judge? Correct? All of these things are based on opinion, correct? Do you guys see where I’m going with this?
    Well stripping away everything that is wrong with it, then obviously, yeah, there is nothing wrong with it, as it's two consenting adults.
    But that's the same as saying "take away the fact that a murderer has taken an actual life, the guy was just letting out his anger"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasombra View Post
    Incestual marriage has been around for centuries. Most of the kings and queens of European countries were all related when they married.

    Interesting.
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    Well stripping away everything that is wrong with it, then obviously, yeah, there is nothing wrong with it, as it's two consenting adults.
    But that's the same as saying "take away the fact that a murderer has taken an actual life, the guy was just letting out his anger"
    but what’s wrong with it is your opinion, is it not? We’ve been influenced by religion to say what’s right and what’s wrong for the most part.

    I guess you could compare it to a murder, yes, it’s our opinion if a murder is wrong or right. Maybe there was a reason behind it, maybe it had to be done (for right or wrong reasons, again based our opinions), maybe the person was clinically ill and did not know what they were doing.

    But a difference would be that you’re hurting someone else. Are you hurting someone else if you’re Having $#@!sexual relations, incest, (or whatever else you can throw in there) in your private place?

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    You know what, HUMANS are HUMANS and we are weak when it comes to feelings and love... Be it what it is

    You are either not gay or are... you either have inter-relation with a family member or not.... The end result no one on this freaking planet can judge a person for who they are....

    The world is $#@!ed up enough with judgmental people and fear attacks on what is wrong with this that and the other... We can not let are judgments be part off this sick belief that being different is wrong
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    How allowing two adults of the same gender to marry can be compared to allow incest which produces children with DNA defects is beyond me. Not the same thing at all.
    Other opinions are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    You know what, HUMANS are HUMANS and we are weak when it comes to feelings and love... Be it what it is

    You are either not gay or are... you either have inter-relation with a family member or not.... The end result no one on this freaking planet can judge a person for who they are....

    The world is $#@!ed up enough with judgmental people and fear attacks on what is wrong with this that and the other... We can not let are judgments be part off this sick belief that being different is wrong
    trust me, i have no issue with anyone being gay.

    however, if we go by that logic then would you be ok about a relationship between a mother and her son? would you be ok with pedophilia if both are consenting? etc. etc. no harm no foul?

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    How allowing two adults of the same gender to marry can be compared to allow incest which produces children with DNA defects is beyond me. Not the same thing at all.
    but that's not what we're talking about.

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    gay marriage is allowed its called canada the usa gov must have alot of stupid people in power for this thing to still be a problem



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    Interesting.but whatís wrong with it is your opinion, is it not? Weíve been influenced by religion to say whatís right and whatís wrong for the most part.

    I guess you could compare it to a murder, yes, itís our opinion if a murder is wrong or right. Maybe there was a reason behind it, maybe it had to be done (for right or wrong reasons, again based our opinions), maybe the person was clinically ill and did not know what they were doing.

    But a difference would be that youíre hurting someone else. Are you hurting someone else if youíre Having $#@!sexual relations, incest, (or whatever else you can throw in there) in your private place?
    ...And 100 years ago women were seen as property and black people couldn't vote. Many 'opinions' were that they weren't people or close to equals in race or gender (amongst other things, but not looking to derail the thread). At this point you're just arguing semantics of opinion, how one person could deem something wrong, but another may not. This isn't directly about above quote, more of your general message.

    The point is this, the concept of gay marriage is the same as heterosexual marriage. The key difference is peoples' opinion on the matter. Sometimes it's not in the betterment of mankind. If someone sees it as a slippery slope, there's no factual basis for it. It's not even a correlation. It's just making two statements based on their own heavy handed view that they are trying to push onto their viewers.

    So in essence you can't say, "well if we allow gay marriage, then how is incest wrong?" Gay marriage is the same concept as heterosexual. It's 2 people who want to marry. end of story. Incest is the process of intercourse with someone in your own family. Not even close to the same concept. For it to be, the thought process would need to be, if we allow mom and dad to have sex with each other, why can't brother and sister do too?


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