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    Atari Founder says xbox 720 will win next gen.

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/bushnel...xt-gen-6406405
    Says next xbox has much better dev tools than ps4 .

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    I can't stand Nolan Bushnell, the guy always has to chime in on stuff he has no clue about...he probably hasn't touched programming since the Atari days...go back to Chuck E Cheese Nolan, you're drunk!

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    Funny... all the devs are raving about the PS4's easy development. Maybe they're all wrong and he's right.


    Getting quite tired of articles like this.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    Funny... all the devs are raving about the PS4's easy development. Maybe they're all wrong and he's right.


    Getting quite tired of articles like this.
    Nolan Bushnell makes Gabe Newell look like the most awesome person on Earth! I don't understand why they still involve him in current gaming articles, I bet he is never even touched a current gen system let alone seen a dev kit for the next gen systems...the guy is an idiot...

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    I agree. He seems pretty derp-tastic.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    This guy is funny.


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    That's a huge understatement!

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    This guy might post at PSU under a stealth name, cause I've seen others here bring up the past to FUD the present THIS guy is a fanboy, I watched this interview

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/g...--console-wars

    I can tell from the way he speaks, riddled with bias and has views that seem half a decade outdated.

    "god-awful"

    His reasoning for MS being in a superior position are laughable. "They are in a superior position because last gen Sony $#@!ed up ith ass hole tech..." *someone whispers in his ear* "Oh, Sony revealed a new more powerful console that was developed with 1st and 3rd party devs in February!? Herp a depr a derp a herp, herp herp herp"

    "Microsoft actually has so much money to defend this" - that's the bottom line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    This guy might post at PSU under a stealth name, cause I've seen others here bring up the past to FUD the present THIS guy is a fanboy, I watched this interview

    http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/g...--console-wars

    I can tell from the way he speaks, riddled with bias and has views that seem half a decade outdated.

    "god-awful"

    His reasoning for MS being in a superior position are laughable. "They are in a superior position because last gen Sony $#@!ed up ith ass hole tech..." *someone whispers in his ear* "Oh, Sony revealed a new more powerful console that was developed with 1st and 3rd party devs in February!? Herp a depr a derp a herp, herp herp herp"

    "Microsoft actually has so much money to defend this" - that's the bottom line.
    The end of the video he's plugging for his book... that's pretty much all that video is good for is advertising himself. What garbage.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    Funny... all the devs are raving about the PS4's easy development. Maybe they're all wrong and he's right.


    Getting quite tired of articles like this.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but they are raving about it being "easier". That's not to say they have the same sort of tools available as MS does, MS has some amazing tools in PIX etc. It will take Sony a while to tool up in this regard, but I think they will.

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    Yay for Microsoft?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but they are raving about it being "easier". That's not to say they have the same sort of tools available as MS does, MS has some amazing tools in PIX etc. It will take Sony a while to tool up in this regard, but I think they will.
    A $#@!load easier, yes. I don't know if you've read basically nothing in regards to PS4 all this time, but Sony is working very closely with devs to give them the tools they need to do what they want... even down to how the new controller was designed. "Easier" cannot be overstated. They've learned from their arrogance and are moving forward with all they got this time around and actually listening.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Yeah, no kidding.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    A $#@!load easier, yes. I don't know if you've read basically nothing in regards to PS4 all this time, but Sony is working very closely with devs to give them the tools they need to do what they want... even down to how the new controller was designed. "Easier" cannot be overstated. They've learned from their arrogance and are moving forward with all they got this time around and actually listening.
    You cant write something like PIX for a bare metal programming on a new GPU in 5 minutes flat.

    And by the way, Ghost they aren't tools thats middleware.
    Dev tools are things like PIX, CUDA debugging, Nsight, Perfkit, General shader debuggers, etc.

    Christ they are going to have to write custom piece of software just to snoop all the onion and garlic buss info and get metrics from it for starters.

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    I'm sure they'll be fine.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    I'm sure they'll be fine.
    Never said they wont be did I?
    But trying to compare someone who has just started into x86 development with someone who has 25 years in it?

    There is a reason the IDE is visual studio.

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    HArdly surprising that a software company makes easy dev tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Nolan Bushnell makes Gabe Newell look like the most awesome person on Earth! I don't understand why they still involve him in current gaming articles, I bet he is never even touched a current gen system let alone seen a dev kit for the next gen systems...the guy is an idiot...
    But Gaben is an awesome person!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    You cant write something like PIX for a bare metal programming on a new GPU in 5 minutes flat.

    And by the way, Ghost they aren't tools thats middleware.
    Dev tools are things like PIX, CUDA debugging, Nsight, Perfkit, General shader debuggers, etc.

    Christ they are going to have to write custom piece of software just to snoop all the onion and garlic buss info and get metrics from it for starters.
    Relax. I just thought his justification for his opinion was funny and slightly out of touch.

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    Cerny has talked as much about the dev tools as anything else since the unveiling. What he says does not correlate with Bushnell's comments here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Relax. I just thought his justification for his opinion was funny and slightly out of touch.
    There is a lot of stuff thta be quickly adapted, but there is some real GPGPU stuff that can be taken advantage of that is going to require some custom tools that they will need to write.
    But lets put it this way, if they started from a 0/10 when starting out with the cell hardware, they are already at about 7/10.

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    Even though Cerny is under Sony he is still a developer and I will take his word over this guy. Atari hasn't done anything that great and it almost seems like he is eating a lemon that someone pissed on. There are developers that people should keep an on eye. atari is one of those sour developers. They could make a $#@! game while trying hard enough but when people don't like it, they will say stupid $#@!. it's like the developer that gets butthurt because no one bought their game even though they themselves know they $#@!ed it up.

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