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    Former British Prime Minister Margret Thatcher Dies.

    Former Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher has died "peacefully" at the age of 87 after suffering a stroke while staying at the Ritz hotel in central London.
    David Cameron called her a "great Briton" and the Queen spoke of her sadness at the death.
    Lady Thatcher was Conservative prime minister from 1979 to 1990. She was the first woman to hold the role.
    She will not have a state funeral but will be accorded the same status as Princess Diana and the Queen Mother.
    The ceremony, with full military honours, will take place at London's St Paul's Cathedral.
    The union jack above Number 10 Downing Street has been lowered to half-mast.
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    Just watched the BBC special where an Ex Miner basically said they where very happy with the News that she has Died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John25 View Post
    Just watched the BBC special where an Ex Miner basically said they where very happy with the News that she has Died.
    You sound shocked? She $#@!ed the miners royally and didn't even use any lube.

    From what I know, she was a nasty piece of work

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    What does her death change though ? Absolutely nothing. Celebration of death is weird. No matter who it is and what they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBettaKnow View Post
    You sound shocked? She $#@!ed the miners royally and didn't even use any lube.

    From what I know, she was a nasty piece of work
    oh I know but just didn't expect him to rant the way he did

    But im sure They are Absolutly Devastated with The news up in Scotland :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrelbo1 View Post
    What does her death change though ? Absolutely nothing. Celebration of death is weird. No matter who it is and what they did.
    I'm not saying you should celebrate anyones death. But I also don't think that just because someone has died it means you are exempt about talking bad about them.

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    The unions had way too much power, they essentially held the country to ransome in the 70s, there were power shortages after a certain time of night also 3 day week to conserve electricity
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_mine...ike_%281974%29

    If it wasnt for Magggie we would have the Euro and be in $#@! state like much of Europe is with a failing currency.
    Also when she came to office the armed forces got a pay rise.
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    She might have been an awful leader... But it leaves a family with out a relative
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    She was essentially Britain's very own George W Bush. She will not be missed, much like how George W won't be missed when he is gone. They $#@!ed entirely far too many people over in their lifetime to get a fair shake in death.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unicron7 View Post
    She was essentially Britain's very own George W Bush. She will not be missed, much like how George W won't be missed when he is gone. They $#@!ed entirely far too many people over in their lifetime to get a fair shake in death.
    Hmm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by unicron7 View Post
    She was essentially Britain's very own George W Bush. She will not be missed, much like how George W won't be missed when he is gone. They $#@!ed entirely far too many people over in their lifetime to get a fair shake in death.
    More like Britains Reagan.
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    Thatcher may have made some mistakes, but she did a lot of good too and was a good leader in my opinion. And, she had balls - more balls than any of our politicians today, that do U-turns when things get tough and always try to say the 'right' thing.

    As for the unions, they should exist to improve the working conditions of their workers, not for holding the country to ransom. She did well to break them.

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    $#@! Thatcher Glad we exosed the lies before she died.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny2304 View Post
    $#@! Thatcher Glad we exosed the lies before she died.



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    Told you those Scots would be Devastated about the news of Thatchers death :P

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tion-left.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrelbo1 View Post
    What does her death change though ? Absolutely nothing. Celebration of death is weird. No matter who it is and what they did.
    Exactly. All these people should have celebrated when she stepped down as prime minister.

    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    The unions had way too much power, they essentially held the country to ransome in the 70s, there were power shortages after a certain time of night also 3 day week to conserve electricity
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_mine...ike_%281974%29

    If it wasnt for Magggie we would have the Euro and be in $#@! state like much of Europe is with a failing currency.
    Also when she came to office the armed forces got a pay rise.
    Yeah she did some good! But people tend to forget about that, especially what she did with the Euro...

    I don't think it's right that people are out in the street celebrating her death. To me, that is just sick.

    What's worst is that half my Facebook is celebrating her death and they weren't even alive when she was in office.


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    Quote Originally Posted by holly View Post
    What's worst is that half my Facebook is celebrating her death and they weren't even alive when she was in office.
    This is something I got into last night on Facebook; while our generation might not have been alive to directly be affected by her decisions in office, the fact remains that some of our families were, and still are, suffering because of the choices she made. I really don't get the idea where people think she was a great prime minister from. In my opinion, she did nothing but truly $#@! this country over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holly View Post
    Exactly. All these people should have celebrated when she stepped down as prime minister.


    Yeah she did some good! But people tend to forget about that, especially what she did with the Euro...

    I don't think it's right that people are out in the street celebrating her death. To me, that is just sick.

    What's worst is that half my Facebook is celebrating her death and they weren't even alive when she was in office.
    most of the people north of the midlands who were there when she stepped down were celebrating. me included.

    I can still remember where I was, and what I was doing when I found out, and I can remember it like it was yesterday when everyone was cheering.

    I was at college at the time, and one of my friends came in and told everyone she had jumped before she could be pushed.

    no one believed it at first, but someone brought a radio in and turned it on. practically every local radio was running the story, and everyone in the building was cheering about it.

    the feelgood factor fooled everyone into thinking labour were a shoe-in for the '92 general election.

    it all depends on what side of the divide you were on when she was in power. if you were one of the rich that got richer, you are understandably going to feel some sadness.

    however, if like me, you witnessed first hand what she did, and how it crippled a lot of people less well off, you're not going to be so supportive.

    I'm not saying she didn't do some good, but from my viewpoint, the bad far outweighs the good.

    this is the woman that was sat at the top of the tree when whole communities were consigned to the scrap pile when she crushed the mining & shipping industries, leaving in its wake promises of alternative training & employment that were left unfulfilled.

    this is the woman that was sat at the top of the tree when the country was taken to war for political reasons

    this is the woman that was sat at the top of the tree when 96 innocent people lost their lives and the subsequent cover up still leaves many none the wiser as to what actually happened.

    this is the woman that was sat at the top of the tree when funding to public schools was slashed, forcing many kids to make do with what they had (I know this because I experienced it)

    this is the woman who openly supported a dictator who was wanted in his own country for killing thousands, and torturing many more people, including women & children.

    as far as this particular witness to what she did is concerned, a tear won't be shed, and a $#@! won't be given.

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    Funny how the "personal" accounts in this thread don't seem to match up with the view of historians.

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    She is dead and life goes on.... Why actually give a $#@!

    Humans die all the time... So
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    She is dead and life goes on.... Why actually give a $#@!

    Humans die all the time... So
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Funny how the "personal" accounts in this thread don't seem to match up with the view of historians.

    I know MANY Brits. I routinely follow British news and spend a lot of time on British websites.

    One thing I have noticed is that the vast majority of people celebrating Maggie's death are people who weren't even alive when she was in office, and of the people who were, when you try to pin them down on exactly why they didn't like her it usually boils down to "I or someone in my family lost a job and then blame her for it".

    The truth is she saved the UK from a financial collapse. In the 1970s the UK was just about bankrupt, mired in debt, double digit inflation, and ludicrous demands from labour unions. Before Maggie, Heath was forced to declare a state of emergency 5 separate times during his turn as PM, the most of any British PM in peacetime.

    Maggie straightened the problems out. Yes, that meant that some people who had plush little positions in way too powerful unions lost their jobs. Yes, that meant that the average person was expected to care for themselves more, and rely on government handouts less. But, she took an economy that was on the verge of implosion and turned it into an economy which boomed and rapidly expanded for the next 15 years until the Labour Party ruined it again.


    Those celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher deserve to be left with an Edward Heath economy.

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    Whilst she isn't quite the devil that some paint her to be, the hate and vitriol is very much deserved in most cases. Yes, she was right about the Falklands and I applaud her for that, indeed her foreign policy was generally bang on and not as spineless as our pathetic leaders today are. Although she did ardently support Apartheid in south africa and called the ANC terrorists, so...

    The unions did have too much power. She beat them. Could it have been handled better? You bet. But she got the job done and it's true that at the time Britain was at the mercy of these unions.

    However, she was also the most socially destructive prime minister in modern history. Her contempt for the working class was and is an embarrassment, describing her own citizens as "the enemy within". She ripped the heart out of so many communities and things will never be the same again. So many of our countries economic and social problems lay directly at her feet, we are still suffering from her time in office. Social inequality increased by an order of magnitude when she was in power, she made the rich richer, the poor poorer. VAT rises, public transport fares going through the roof, food becoming prohibitively expensive and the private sector holding far too much power (and money) that didn't belong to them, crippling those at the bottom of the pyramid.

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    I know MANY Brits. I routinely follow British news and spend a lot of time on British websites.
    Which still leaves you with close to no insight whatsoever
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