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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    Of course, I hope they remove all the other sales that they lump in with PS3 that massage the figures.
    I haven't really understood why they moved to a combined PS2/PS3 sales figure. Does that mean they will go with a PS2/PS3/PS4 combined sales for next time? It may be the case as they are doing it as a brand (Playstation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    would that be the last reported "made up" figures?

    I'm sure that if and when Sony pass MS in console sales that they will be shouting it from the roof tops.

    Of course, I hope they remove all the other sales that they lump in with PS3 that massage the figures.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I haven't really understood why they moved to a combined PS2/PS3 sales figure.
    To hide PS3 sales.
    If it was selling better than 360, you'd soon know about it. Just as MS bleat on about being #1 in the Us each month, Sony would do likewise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Does that mean they will go with a PS2/PS3/PS4 combined sales for next time? It may be the case as they are doing it as a brand (Playstation).
    If next-gen release at the same time and PS4 sells better, Sony will want us to know about it. If it sells less, then I'm sure they will add PS3/PS4 together. I'd also expect MS to do the same with 360/nextbox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    We dont have officla nuymbers form SOny, so its only guessing, but it probably has tied.

    But really this is how they "caught up"


    Sure if you wanna continue to ignore their dominance in Europe, which has been proven countless times but people still want to kid themselves that they're equal in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Sure if you wanna continue to ignore their dominance in Europe, which has been proven countless times but people still want to kid themselves that they're equal in Europe.
    No one said they are equal in Europe?

    Outside of Japan, for every console sold, the other sells one, they are effectively 1 for 1 sales.

    In other words if it weren't for Japan, Sony would be the same margin behind (due to being a year late).

    That's not selling in better or worse than the 360.

    The only thing that has allowed them to "catch up" is the extra sales in Japan.

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    It's not equal in Europe but remains tight unlike the US and Japan.

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    You know, once PS3 got enough of an install base to warrant developers making their games multi-platform I stopped caring about the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    To hide PS3 sales.
    If it was selling better than 360, you'd soon know about it. Just as MS bleat on about being #1 in the Us each month, Sony would do likewise.


    If next-gen release at the same time and PS4 sells better, Sony will want us to know about it. If it sells less, then I'm sure they will add PS3/PS4 together. I'd also expect MS to do the same with 360/nextbox.


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    You do realize there's a difference between outselling in an ongoing scenario vs overall sales right? The PS3 has been outselling the 360 up until now (I don't know what it is now, haven't kept up). They don't need to hide the sales lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    You do realize there's a difference between outselling in an ongoing scenario vs overall sales right? The PS3 has been outselling the 360 up until now* (I don't know what it is now, haven't kept up). They don't need to hide the sales lol.
    *Except 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    *Except 2008
    What were they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    What were they?
    MS outsold them WW by about 1/2 million units that year, but yeah outside of that, Sony has always outsold MS.

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    Yup if you remember, that was due to the price cut, otherwise the PS3 was up that year I believe.

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    Has anyone taken into consideration that the only way MS kept Sony from dominating the 360 was to constantly slash the price hoping Sony couldn't keep pace with them. I believe one obvious thing happened MS couldnt keep slashing the 360s price the strategy made the PS3 more appealing. People feared Sony would have to close up shop soon but nope Playstation is still here and thats how in my opinion Sony is the winner. It almost feels as if the PS3 was forged like steel started weak endured harsh conditions took a pounding and came out stronger than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hood View Post
    Has anyone taken into consideration that the only way MS kept Sony from dominating the 360 was to constantly slash the price hoping Sony couldn't keep pace with them. I believe one obvious thing happened MS couldnt keep slashing the 360s price the strategy made the PS3 more appealing. People feared Sony would have to close up shop soon but nope Playstation is still here and thats how in my opinion Sony is the winner. It almost feels as if the PS3 was forged like steel started weak endured harsh conditions took a pounding and came out stronger than ever.
    Also i would like to add that the xbox 360 has been 299.99 since 2006 the core addition and now you can get a 250 gig elite for you guessed it 299.99. All this numbers dont lie crap needs to stop you can get a 500 gb ps3 for 299.99...
    "I think all those developers who are saying, "We don’t want to do a PS3 game," or "It’s really difficult to do it," should shut up and make their games. If you have time to complain about it, then you should be spending your time working on getting the most from the hardware."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    Yup if you remember, that was due to the price cut, otherwise the PS3 was up that year I believe.
    Yeah MS slaughtered them in that Xmas period, up until then it was behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by hood View Post
    Also i would like to add that the xbox 360 has been 299.99 since 2006 the core addition and now you can get a 250 gig elite for you guessed it 299.99. All this numbers dont lie crap needs to stop you can get a 500 gb ps3 for 299.99...

    Yeah, umm one post you say MS constantly slashed prices, which they never did. Then you point out, that they never did. So not sure what your trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    MS outsold them WW by about 1/2 million units that year, but yeah outside of that, Sony has always outsold MS.
    I would think so considering the price of the PS3 back then
    And wasn't that a Halo year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Yeah MS slaughtered them in that Xmas period, up until then it was behind.




    Yeah, umm one post you say MS constantly slashed prices, which they never did. Then you point out, that they never did. So not sure what your trying to say.
    wow well let me explain since you have been absent the last 7-8 ish years


    At launch, the Xbox 360 was available in two configurations: the "Xbox 360" package (unofficially known as the 20 GB Pro or Premium), priced at US$399 or GB£279.99, and the "Xbox 360 Core", priced at US$299 and GB£209.99. The original shipment of the Xbox 360 version included a cut-down version of the Media Remote as a promotion. The Elite package was launched later at US$479. The "Xbox 360 Core" was replaced by the "Xbox 360 Arcade" in October 2007[26] and a 60 GB version of the Xbox 360 Pro was released on August 1, 2008. The Pro package was discontinued and marked down to US$249 on August 28, 2009 to be sold until stock ran out, while the Elite was also marked down in price to US$299.[27] In June 2010, Microsoft announced a new, redesigned, model and the discontinuation of the Elite and Arcade models.[18]

    Timeline

    United States November 22, 2005

    Launch of Xbox 360 Premium (20 GB) – $399.99
    Launch of Xbox 360 Core – $299.99
    April 29, 2007

    Launch Xbox 360 Elite (120 GB) – $479.99[28]
    August 6, 2007[29]

    Price cut on Xbox 360 Premium (20 GB) – $349.99
    Price cut on Xbox 360 Core – $279.99
    Price cut on Xbox 360 Elite – $449.99
    October 27, 2007

    Launch of Xbox 360 Arcade – $279.99[30]
    Discontinuation of Xbox 360 Core
    July 13, 2008

    Discontinuation of Xbox 360 (20 GB) (price cut to $299.99 for remaining stock)[31]
    August 1, 2008[31]

    Launch of Xbox 360 Premium (60 GB) – $349.99
    September 5, 2008[32]

    Price cut on Xbox 360 Elite – $399.99
    Price cut on Xbox 360 (60 GB) – $299.99
    Price cut on Xbox 360 Arcade – $199.99
    August 28, 2009

    Discontinuation of Xbox 360 (60 GB) (price cut to $249.99 for remaining stock)
    Price cut on Xbox 360 Elite – $299.99
    June 19, 2010[18]

    Launch of Xbox 360 S 250 GB – $299.99
    Discontinuation of Xbox 360 Elite (price cut to $249.99 for remaining stock)
    Discontinuation of Xbox 360 Arcade (price cut to $149.99 for remaining stock)
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    Launch of Xbox 360 S 4 GB – $199.99
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360

    What this information shows is that when the 360 launched it was 399 for the top teir while the ps3 was $600 and came with a larger hard drive. As the ps3's sales slowed due to being more expensive and lacking games MS decided to lower the price of the Top Tier 360 from a 399.99 20gb model to 299.99. MS did every thing they could to lower the price of a top tier 360 in order to stay competitive with the actual value you were getting with the PS3. Though the 360 launched at 399.99 you could still get a 360 for 299.99 in 2006 then in 2008 you could get a 360 for 279 and the top of the line for 479.99, and in 2009 you could get an arcade for 199.99 then a 60 gig elite for 399.99 the original price for a 20 gig 360 40 gbs wow the savings. It wasnt until mid 2010 that you can get a 250 gb 360 for 299.99 but you are still able to purchase a 4gb 360 for 199.99.

    Sony still has out valued their 250 console with a 500gb console for 299.99. One of the major reasons why the 360 has so many sales is because it was cheap so people saying oh well they sold more games its probably has a lot to do with there always being a cheap way to snatch up a 360 look at the Wii its sales were largely do to it being cheap and its a piece of crap just like the Wii U.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hood View Post
    wow well let me explain since you have been absent the last 7-8 ish years



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360

    What this information shows is that when the 360 launched it was 399 for the top teir while the ps3 was $600 and came with a larger hard drive. As the ps3's sales slowed due to being more expensive and lacking games MS decided to lower the price of the Top Tier 360 from a 399.99 20gb model to 299.99. MS did every thing they could to lower the price of a top tier 360 in order to stay competitive with the actual value you were getting with the PS3. Though the 360 launched at 399.99 you could still get a 360 for 299.99 in 2006 then in 2008 you could get a 360 for 279 and the top of the line for 479.99, and in 2009 you could get an arcade for 199.99 then a 60 gig elite for 399.99 the original price for a 20 gig 360 40 gbs wow the savings. It wasnt until mid 2010 that you can get a 250 gb 360 for 299.99 but you are still able to purchase a 4gb 360 for 199.99.

    Sony still has out valued their 250 console with a 500gb console for 299.99. One of the major reasons why the 360 has so many sales is because it was cheap so people saying oh well they sold more games its probably has a lot to do with there always being a cheap way to snatch up a 360 look at the Wii its sales were largely do to it being cheap and its a piece of crap just like the Wii U.
    Wow I never released that, they more or less keep the same price for 4 years and even increased it, while Sony dropped the price and offered larger HDD space
    Unbelievable.

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    The 360 hasn't been slashed in prices. It's pretty much stayed the same but with them adding more features and HDD space for the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    MS outsold them WW by about 1/2 million units that year, but yeah outside of that, Sony has always outsold MS.
    Must have been dreaming that MS announced they were the world's biggest selling console in 2011. Stupid me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    Must have been dreaming that MS announced they were the world's biggest selling console in 2011. Stupid me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Yep, pretty much another awesome year despite the successor also releasing this year. How many 1st/2nd party games have MS released/releasing this year?
    I don't think I've bought a first party game on the 360 this year... will there there be anything? Heck, I dunno.




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