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    I have to agree. I am liking the sound of these new rumors. Lots of features down the pipeline. Granted I don't care about BC. I know others have a desire for it. My Xbox won't stop playing games when the new one comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I have to agree. I am liking the sound of these new rumors. Lots of features down the pipeline. Granted I don't care about BC. I know others have a desire for it. My Xbox won't stop playing games when the new one comes out.
    Same here. I'm excited to see the improvements to the already awesome controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Same here. I'm excited to see the improvements to the already awesome controller.
    Hard to imagine the controller getting any better.

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    Everythings coming to.

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    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
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    Well reads more like a wish-thinking from a MS fanboy who is mad at NeoGAF. I mean why the hell all the mess with Adam Orth in the first place when absolutely NOTHING was true about it. Last week there were rumors that u need the MiniBox for full BC. Now we have X360 SoC for full BC. The cost for this thing is going into the skies. We will see what MS have when they finally release everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bariton1 View Post
    Well reads more like a wish-thinking from a MS fanboy who is mad at NeoGAF. I mean why the hell all the mess with Adam Orth in the first place when absolutely NOTHING was true about it. Last week there were rumors that u need the MiniBox for full BC. Now we have X360 SoC for full BC. The cost for this thing is going into the skies. We will see what MS have when they finally release everything.
    Why is it that the more positive things we continue to hear about the new Xbox, the more critical people are becoming? Do they want the console to be bad? I thought we want great?

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    BC via the 360 SoC on board would lend credence to the rumoured high price of the Durango. However, these rumours being delivered by what appears to be a 14 year old fangirl on twitter somewhat kills any credibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryunosuke View Post

    • The 360 SoC would add to the overall cost and MS would be stuck with it.


    • The 360 SoC being used for games would (greatly?) add to the complexity of game development.


    • The power gain from the added 360 SoC would be very little (~355GF at most).
    This is where his angst filled monologue breaks down for me. Are MS going to tie themselves to this without the option to remove it later on? Hell no they won't. If developers are told they can use the 360 hardware for Durango games, those games would no longer work in a revise SKU without BC. Sounds crazy to me, they wouldn't hamstring themselves like that. Either this guy is given the benefit of the doubt and he's merely wrong about devs being allowed to utilise the 360 hardware - or he's just a twitter WUM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Why is it that the more positive things we continue to hear about the new Xbox, the more critical people are becoming? Do they want the console to be bad? I thought we want great?
    I don't even know most of that stuff means in X2's post. Seems like more stuff is leaking as the days go by. I'm pretty excited to find out what parts are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Why is it that the more positive things we continue to hear about the new Xbox, the more critical people are becoming? Do they want the console to be bad? I thought we want great?
    Umm, maybe because people are taking the rumor of credible sites over a nobody's rumor.

    All these outlandish rumors are in response to the ps4 being stronger than the rumored 720 specs.

    Desperation for diehard MS fans is all this $#@! is. The troll is playing with emotions with this set of rumors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post

    Desperation for diehard MS fans is all this $#@! is. The troll is playing with emotions with this set of rumors
    Or desperate diehard Sony fans thinking it's not possible for Nextbox to be better than what they want it to be.

    I.E. bad rumors = true. good rumour = not a chance in hell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Hard to imagine the controller getting any better.
    Plus pad needs sorting. Then the ideal pad will be there.

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    Whatever Yukon is says it has 4gb of DDR4. Can anyone help with this? What is Yukon? Is that the SOC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Whatever Yukon is says it has 4gb of DDR4. Can anyone help with this? What is Yukon? Is that the SOC?
    Isn't 'yukon' an american truck or some $#@!? Or maybe an old old wooden ship? Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Whatever Yukon is says it has 4gb of DDR4. Can anyone help with this? What is Yukon? Is that the SOC?
    Yea, I noticed that too. I thought DDR4 wouldn't be here til 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Whatever Yukon is says it has 4gb of DDR4. Can anyone help with this? What is Yukon? Is that the SOC?
    This guy pretty well explains ddr4 and what to expect.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKiCw...e_gdata_player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    Or desperate diehard Sony fans thinking it's not possible for Nextbox to be better than what they want it to be.

    I.E. bad rumors = true. good rumour = not a chance in hell.


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    It's more like these "good" rumors are full of bull$#@!.

    The rumor the other day said the mini was required and now he's saying it's not required. He's basically saying they got it wrong. Funny that he "knew" the 360 was built in but doesn't know a damn thing else. you guys keep the faith though.
    Destiny is going to be EVERYTHING that EA and MS hoped titanfall would be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    It's more like these "good" rumors are full of bull$#@!.

    The rumor the other day said the mini was required and now he's saying it's not required. He's basically saying they got it wrong. Funny that he "knew" the 360 was built in but doesn't know a damn thing else. you guys keep the faith though.
    I dont know why you love talking down on MS . Did Mynd post that the ps4 will be using Windows 7 to develope games on the ps4 .

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    I don't know why people keeping thinking the chip would bring the cost up a lot, when MS subsidized the chip in the slim. Meaning that the CPU, GPU and memory controller are now all on one chip. They also made it smaller though it be came more powerful when they done it, so the had to scale back and lower the hertz.
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by X2 View Post
    I don't know why people keeping thinking the chip would bring the cost up a lot, when MS subsidized the chip in the slim. Meaning that the CPU, GPU and memory controller are now all on one chip. They also made it smaller though it be came more powerful when they done it, so the had to scale back and lower the hertz.
    Not only that but it's possible (if it's true) that they are willing to take a loss and make up for it in other areas. They can afford to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Why is it that the more positive things we continue to hear about the new Xbox, the more critical people are becoming? Do they want the console to be bad? I thought we want great?
    I see some of that happening. It's par for the course though - especially when people had a go at Sony for not showing the box....

    Same diff.

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    I would buy the PS4/Xbox 3 sight unseen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I would buy the PS4/Xbox 3 sight unseen
    lol yeah they could both look like bread makers and it'd be fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    smells of ass pulls and trolling those desperate for information. It's been like that since the 720 lost the upperhand.

    Anyways, only a month or so left.
    Bah, they just watch our forums, seriously, isnt this almost word for word what I said could happen?
    Why is it that this rumor hasn't surfaced before, I honestly think they are just clutching at any rumor or suggestion that sounds plausible. Seems too convenient this does the rounds now...

    Again, I say this, I really do believe the specs will be similar to this.

    2 SOC's

    -App (or Games) SOC
    -System SOC

    Game SOC
    -(6-8 core x86)
    -1.2 TF GPU with 12 CU's

    System SOC
    -x86 or even Xenon based
    -1.2 TF GPU 12 CU's
    -Deals with Kinect
    -Deals with "compute"
    -Deals with dash. video apps, web cam etc etc.


    The advantages of making the system SOC Xenon?
    -Built in BC
    -App portability
    -Dash portability.

    Not sure if they will do that however.
    I am no longer participating in these forums, I wish all of you on the PSU Forums the best for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    It's more like these "good" rumors are full of bull$#@!.
    as i say...
    for some... good rumour = not a chance in hell.

    thanks for proving the point, you can be quite helpful at times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    The rumor the other day said the mini was required and now he's saying it's not required. He's basically saying they got it wrong. Funny that he "knew" the 360 was built in but doesn't know a damn thing else. you guys keep the faith though.
    as i say...
    for some... good rumour = not a chance in hell.

    again... thanks for proving the point, you are so helpful.

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