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    Sony"we will not sell the ps4 a loss unlike the ps3 launch.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-launch-of-ps4

    Im expecting a similar approach to MS. A499.00 price with a subscription service to subsidize the pricing. I would be surprised if they sold it at 350.00 the target price KaZ wanted.

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    I see this as another reason Sony went with x86 tech and more off the shelf type components compared to the PS3's exotic tech (CELL, XDR Ram, etc.), they should be right at cost or close to when the PS4 releases. The most expensive parts of the PS3 at launch were the blu-ray drive and CELL processor, which blu-ray tech is now dirt cheap and luckily the CELL is no where to be found this gen, so I can easily see them turning a profit from day 1 with the PS4!



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    Not to mention the millions on r and d for the thing.

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    I am making sure I have $500 set aside for this launch. If it is less than $500, the leftover money will go to extra games or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Not to mention the millions on r and d for the thing.

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    That too! The PS3 was a money pit for Sony, they won't make that mistake this gen! The most expensive tech inside the PS4 will be the APU and the GDDR5 Ram, but I am putting my money that it releases at $450!


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
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    Im expecting a similar approach to MS. A499.00 price with a subscription service to subsidize the pricing. I would be surprised if they sold it at 350.00 the target price KaZ wanted.
    I think last generation demonstrated quite well what the market will and will not pay for a game console. $400 is acceptable but the console will sell in lower numbers than if it was less than $400. $500 and it will not sell enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    I think last generation demonstrated quite well what the market will and will not pay for a game console. $400 is acceptable but the console will sell in lower numbers than if it was less than $400. $500 and it will not sell enough.
    I agree, I think $400-450 is probably this generation's sweet spot, I will be surprised if we see anything above $450 and I can definitely see below $400 prices with subsidized pricing by leveraging the online service subscriptions.


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    $399 is not out of the realm of possibility, espeically if they sell a version without the PSEye. They may still take a loss, but not a major loss(as the article stated).

    The most expensive parts in the PS4 (APU and GDDR5) will cost less combined than what the Bluray drive cost in the PS3 alone; perhaps not even much more than the Cell CPU alone. The APU and GDDR5 should be less than $300 combined, just not sure by how much.

    AMD is planning on selling a 1.6GHz quad-core version of the same CPU found in the PS4/Xbox3 for $49 and a 2.0GHz quad-core w/ HD8500E version for $72 in Q2'2013 . The high prices some have been basing the GDDR5 off of are from a GPU on a Q1'2011 using the top tier GDDR5 chips at the time.

    A little more info on the GDDR5 chips used in 2011 price chart and the PS4.
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    This was to be expected. Sony is pulling all the right strings with the PS4.


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    Why does the header say they won't sell at a loss but the article says they will sell at a loss?
    I am at a loss with this article?

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    A lot of what is being said about PS4 is nice and the "right" thing I just hope its all true and we get a price at E3 I'm expecting 500 so that's also what I have set aside for it however seems like going with the architect they have was a great compromise in power and cost I hope that pass those savings to the consumer.

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    Sony expects PS3 to sell 10 million units this financial year
    Wow, talk about drop it like its hot, are they planning on just getting rid of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Why does the header say they won't sell at a loss but the article says they will sell at a loss?
    I am at a loss with this article?
    Nothing to be at a loss about. They basically are saying that they aren't planning on losing as much as they did at the PS3 launch.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Nothing to be at a loss about. They basically are saying that they aren't planning on losing as much as they did at the PS3 launch.
    Which was 2 billion a month. Dats a lots of loss.

    Looks like they are going to "minimizing" the PS3 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Wow, talk about drop it like its hot, are they planning on just getting rid of it?
    Not sure if serious?
    10 million consoles in 1 year where there is a decline in sales and on the dawn of the next generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Not sure if serious?
    10 million consoles in 1 year where there is a decline in sales and on the dawn of the next generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    It was a question, not a statrment.
    Yeah I know the "?" gave it away
    But I wasn't sure if the question was serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    A lot of what is being said about PS4 is nice and the "right" thing I just hope its all true and we get a price at E3 I'm expecting 500 so that's also what I have set aside for it however seems like going with the architect they have was a great compromise in power and cost I hope that pass those savings to the consumer.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Nothing to be at a loss about. They basically are saying that they aren't planning on losing as much as they did at the PS3 launch.
    Which makes sense as they're not trying to ship a $1000 blu-ray player into a $600 machine + whatever cell was costing.

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    I found a much more detailed run down in this article:

    http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15...e-sold-at-loss
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    They can not assume this, unless they start selling the console in mass and hoping to turn a profit


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Which makes sense as they're not trying to ship a $1000 blu-ray player into a $600 machine + whatever cell was costing.
    PS3 had a $1000 bluray player in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    PS3 had a $1000 bluray player in it?
    Back in 2006, the cheapest standalone player you could find was between 900 to $1000. I think that's what they meant, but then again..
    Who would have thought building a solid product that serves your customer's needs would beat out money, marketing, hype, and greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Back in 2006, the cheapest standalone player you could find was between 900 to $1000. I think that's what they meant, but then again..
    I don't think so.

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