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    Except so far it seems that either we're looking at an older demo build or they really should do a lot better with a 30fps shooter that has 7GB of RAM available.

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    Yeah okay lazy was over exaggerating but i'd imagine wanting to make a game 30fps from the offset is going to make your life a hell of alot more easier than saying right lets get this running 60fps and amazing looking to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    Yeah okay lazy was over exaggerating but i'd imagine wanting to make a game 30fps from the offset is going to make your life a hell of alot more easier than saying right lets get this running 60fps and amazing looking to boot.
    So for example, there are developers out there that have different skills, they can do better or worse in similar or same situations. Now that we have that out of the way.

    If you take a developer with similar talents. Give one developer to make a game at 60fps and the other at 30fps and ask them to do their best.

    Most likely the 30fps game will look significantly better than its 60fps counterpart. Using the system's resources, if you choose a higher frame rate, your chances of making that game better than what's the best on the market is low and even lower considering if you are just a good developer and not legendary.

    This is why you'll only see 60fps and the best-looking games from very few and very skilled developers. Even amongst skilled developers, the idea is to make the best-looking game at 30fps. i.e. BF3.

    COD at 60fps but not nearly as good-looking doesn't mean that they didn't give their best, it just means circumstances and approach.
    Last edited by Omar; 06-14-2013 at 16:58.

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    didnt notice all those jaggiez on the video.. drive club looks great tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alti View Post
    didnt notice all those jaggiez on the video.. drive club looks great tho
    There was no jaggies it was sabotage lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    So for example, there are developers out there that have different skills, they can do better or worse in similar or same situations. Now that we have that out of the way.

    If you take a developer with similar talents. Give one developer to make a game at 60fps and the other at 30fps and ask them to do their best.

    Most likely the 30fps game will look significantly better than its 60fps counterpart. Using the system's resources, if you choose a higher frame rate, your chances of making that game better than what's the best on the market is low and even lower considering if you are just a good developer and not legendary.

    This is why you'll only see 60fps and the best-looking games from very few and very skilled developers. Even amongst skilled developers, the idea is to make the best-looking game at 30fps. i.e. BF3.

    COD at 60fps but not nearly as good-looking doesn't mean that they didn't give their best, it just means circumstances and approach.
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    Well for the first time (ever?) the bullshots were the ugly pictures.

    Forza 5 looks fantastic and seems to play as good.

    I would never, ever (I repeat, never) play a racing game below 60fps again. I can forgive that to a RPG to say something, but for a Racing Game 60fps is a must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
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    I just realized what that means -_-

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    So what are you guys predictions on the average reviews for Forza & Driveclub? Il say...

    Forza 5 - 89%

    Driveclub - 82%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    So what are you guys predictions on the average reviews for Forza & Driveclub? Il say...

    Forza 5 - 89%

    Driveclub - 82%
    Forza 5 - 93% (F4 was 91% on metacritic)
    Driveclub - 83% (might be feature limited for being new)

    I want Driveclub to be a 90% though, as it looks to be aces.
    Last edited by Soldier 95B; 07-10-2013 at 13:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Forza 5 - 93% (F4 was 91% on metacritic)
    Driveclub - 80% (might be feature limited for being new, and for being free)

    I want Driveclub to be a 90% though, as it looks to be aces.
    I think Forza 5 will be better than Forza 4 but will get marked down due to no night time and no weather effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Forza 5 - 93% (F4 was 91% on metacritic)
    Driveclub - 80% (might be feature limited for being new, and for being free)

    I want Driveclub to be a 90% though, as it looks to be aces.
    There is a retail version.
    The free PS+ version is to get it noticed by the masses in the hope they upgrade to full version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    I think Forza 5 will be better than Forza 4 but will get marked down due to no night time and no weather effects.
    Most likely. But it's not like the game has ever had it, and still ranks higher than games that have weather and night

    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    There is a retail version.
    The free PS+ version is to get it noticed by the masses in the hope they upgrade to full version.
    I guessed I missed that. I just assumed it was the PSN+ only digital download that was free. With that being the case, I will bring my score prediction up. Thanks!

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    I think that in Forza 5, there will be screens installed in car's cabin so you could watch TV.

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    I think you guys are going to have egg on your faces when it comes to Forza v Driveclub

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    I think you guys are going to have egg on your faces when it comes to Forza v Driveclub
    When its Forza 5 vs GT6 its a full on omelet fest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    When its Forza 5 vs GT6 its a full on omelet fest.
    I think GT6 will even struggle against it.




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    no $#@! sherlock lol. it's a last gen game. he probably meant the PS4 version of GT6. GT7 (I'm assuming likely a true next-gen title) will be a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    no $#@! sherlock lol. it's a last gen game. he probably meant the PS4 version of GT6. GT7 (I'm assuming likely a true next-gen title) will be a different story.
    As will Forza 6

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    muahaha we will see. don't underestimate the continuously-improving japanese nerds. and well, the hardware differences are unfair to begin with. but hey, i'm not the one who will lose

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    With mandatory kinect they should have no problems to sync the drivers turning on the wheel with the player... But I bet they´ll do that before realease. It would really add to the realism.

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    I still dont understand the comparison between these two games. Just because theyre both launch title racing games? GT6 on PS4 would be more comparable. GT and Forza has always been the true rivalry.

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