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    The XBOX ONE: Limiting multiplatform games.

    So I came to the conclusion with the XBOX being less powerful than than PS4 this will limit the devs and will have to make a less power-consuming game for multiplatform. The devs cant make 2 different games for the different outputs of each console.

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    OR what they could do is make the best game they can possibly make on the PS4, and then make a slightly tweaked version for the XBO. The PS3 had to put up with this bull$#@! for years, devs better not cut the XBO any slack this gen.


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    [QUOTE=unicron7;6090806]OR what they could do is make the best game they can possibly make on the PS4, and then make a slightly tweaked version for the XBO. The PS3 had to put up with this bull$#@! for years, devs better not cut the XBO any slack this gen.[/QUOTE



    lol...we all know that's bull$#@!.

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    You would be flat out dead wrong. The PS4 doesn't have an EsRam cache to complicate development. Porting down from the PS4 to One will actually take some effort, especially for a cross platform title being developed on PC.

    So yeah, Advantage PS3, anyway. The tables have turned little bud.

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    The PS2 gimped some Xbox multiplats and the 360 gimped some PS3 multiplats....... par for the course.

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    Let me get this straight, no next-gen systems have been released, and no games for these systems released - let's nbot get carried away. Nothing is limiting anything until we see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunoDivided View Post
    So I came to the conclusion with the XBOX being less powerful than than PS4 this will limit the devs and will have to make a less power-consuming game for multiplatform. The devs cant make 2 different games for the different outputs of each console.
    Games on PS4 will be 60fps and Xbox 1 30fps lol!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    Games on PS4 will be 60fps and Xbox 1 30fps lol!!!
    I don't think so I think both will run at 60 but xbone will either have more frame rate drops or less effects on screen



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    Games being ported from the PS4 will make the XBone splode!!!!


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    While this happened a lot in the past, mostly due to such different console architectures, I think this gen will won't see as many bad ports like we did with the PS3/Xbox360 since both systems use the x86 architecture.

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    It's easier to scale up than down. A base game will be made with both in mind and then developers might (or might not) add a couple extra bells and whistles to PS4 version.

    Later in the cycle maybe some Xbone games will run sub-1080p, with everything else being basically the same. It's impossible to say for now

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    Lets see.
    PS3- Cell, Blu-Ray and standard HD.
    360- DVD and no standard HD on the lower SKU.
    PS3 was a better machine on paper, but in real world practices thats debatable.

    In market share, the 360 helped Microsoft have some big gains, so overall is was a sucsesful product even without some of the fancy features of the PS3.

    This time, it seems to me things are matching up well is some areas, BR and standard hard dive for both and a similar CPU.
    The PS4 will again be the most powerful on paper, the GPU and RAM should be better than that of the X1.

    Will it matter much though? I guess time will tell, but i don't see any reason that both can't be successful and both have great gaming moments.

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    Playing Devil's Advocate here, but didn't MS state that on top of the billions of transistors in the xbox, they also have more on the cloud? Thereby allowing the cloud to offer extended lifecycles to the hardware

    Playing Devil's Advocate to my Devil's Advocate however, wouldn't that mean if xbox games suddenly reached the transistor capacity of the system and then required use of the ones in the cloud to work....the system would then always be online for those games???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver&black_Attack View Post
    Lets see. PS3- Cell, Blu-Ray and standard HD. 360- DVD and no standard HD on the lower SKU. PS3 was a better machine on paper, but in real world practices thats debatable. In market share, the 360 helped Microsoft have some big gains, so overall is was a sucsesful product even without some of the fancy features of the PS3. This time, it seems to me things are matching up well is some areas, BR and standard hard dive for both and a similar CPU. The PS4 will again be the most powerful on paper, the GPU and RAM should be better than that of the X1. Will it matter much though? I guess time will tell, but i don't see any reason that both can't be successful and both have great gaming moments.
    Not as debatable when you compare first party games.

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    we'll drag along Microsoft's machine once again, as the game publishers like Microsoft's money and won't dare hurt their purse by making a signicatively better game on PS4

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    PS4 will get full graphics, Xbone will get the heavily compressed lower rez ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepard View Post
    Playing Devil's Advocate here, but didn't MS state that on top of the billions of transistors in the xbox, they also have more on the cloud? Thereby allowing the cloud to offer extended lifecycles to the hardware

    Playing Devil's Advocate to my Devil's Advocate however, wouldn't that mean if xbox games suddenly reached the transistor capacity of the system and then required use of the ones in the cloud to work....the system would then always be online for those games???

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    Technically, if they can get rid of any latency issues, the Gaikai service could be used from this point on and we would never have to purchase a PlayStation again.

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    Considering both basically have PC architecture now devs should be able to make the best game possible and scale it anyway like a PC version.

    As always most my money will go to exclusives anyway because that is where the real gold is at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Technically, if they can get rid of any latency issues, the Gaikai service could be used from this point on and we would never have to purchase a PlayStation again.
    Not much they can do really. The majority of the latency is due to the distance between the end user and the cloud servers.

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    The XBOX ONE: Limiting multiplatform games.

    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    PS4 will get full graphics, Xbone will get the heavily compressed lower rez ones.
    Texture compression when used on the 360 was usually a result of using the DVD format. Xbox One uses Blu-Ray.

    Also....when people have to zoom in to screen caps to clearly see the difference, it's more a silly bragging point then a real world laymans advantage. That was the case the majority of the time with PS3 Vs. Xbox 360 multiplats. I expect about the same this time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSpaceKoaster View Post
    Texture compression when used on the 360 was usually a result of using the DVD format. Xbox One uses Blu-Ray.

    Also....when people have to zoom in to screen caps to clearly see the difference, it's more a silly bragging point then a real world laymans advantage. That was the case the majority of the time with PS3 Vs. Xbox 360 multiplats. I expect about the same this time too.
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