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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    With MS in second place behind the Wii, I would say it has been very successful.
    They're 3rd place now.
    Even VGChartz has finally admitted to it.

    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/2509...-the-xbox-360/

    And they are well known to undertrack PS3 numbers because their methodology only includes these areas


    • USA
    • UK
    • Germany
    • France
    • Japan


    http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php

    Leaving out many European places where Sony reigns supreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    They're 3rd place now.
    Even VGChartz has finally admitted to it.

    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/2509...-the-xbox-360/

    And they are well known to undertrack PS3 numbers because their methodology only includes these areas


    • USA
    • UK
    • Germany
    • France
    • Japan


    http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php

    Leaving out many European places where Sony reigns supreme.
    It's possible but only speculation until we get confirmation from MS or Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It's possible but only speculation until we get confirmation from MS or Sony.
    It wouldn't matter either way. Unless every time Sony/MS get the lead/fall behind, that the games you currently own start to explode.

    Fairly pointless from a gamer with no stock or controlling interest in the matter... Which to say, is most of us.

    #IndieStation4 and proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    It wouldn't matter either way. Unless every time Sony/MS get the lead/fall behind, that the games you currently own start to explode.
    Fairly pointless from a gamer with no stock or controlling interest in the matter... Which to say, is most of us.
    Oh it matters to some. People may not want to admit it, but it does. If you don't believe it, watch what happens on this forum when Xbox-one and PS4 releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Oh it matters to some. People may not want to admit it, but it does. If you don't believe it, watch what happens on this forum when Xbox-one and PS4 releases.
    I agree it matters to some people.

    I just don't see why we should worry about it when ultimately, outside of buying games/consoles/accessories/etc; we can't control anything else. Even if we all buy 2 of everything, it'd be $#@!ing pointless to do it to be able to "win" on that side of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    I agree it matters to some people.

    I just don't see why we should worry about it when ultimately, outside of buying games/consoles/accessories/etc; we can't control anything else. Even if we all buy 2 of everything, it'd be $#@!ing pointless to do it to be able to "win" on that side of things.
    I agree in a way, but some do get intersted in the business side of gaming, and this thread is more in that area.

    Personally, i hope the PS4 and X1 can both be good, successful consoles, and make money for Sony and Microsoft, that would help the overall gaming business and that leads to bigger and better games for everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    They're 3rd place now.
    Even VGChartz has finally admitted to it.

    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/2509...-the-xbox-360/

    And they are well known to undertrack PS3 numbers because their methodology only includes these areas


    • USA
    • UK
    • Germany
    • France
    • Japan


    http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php

    Leaving out many European places where Sony reigns supreme.
    Last official numbers from Sony and Microsoft showed 360 leading. We never use or trust VGCharts.

    Could the lead have changes since the last official numbers? Yup. Might get those at E3 or next quarter reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefein View Post
    Market position went from first place to third over the course of the generation.
    Surly the important think from a business perspective is the amount profit made. And it's known that Microsoft made loads more than Sony this gen.

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