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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It's just business and advertising. Both of them do it and it's not wrong. At least I don't see it that way....lol When Blizzard and Activision showed up at sony's reveal you think there was no money behind that? This is no different, if it's even true.
    Well i guess "wrong" is subjective.

    However, paying devs to show-up at one's own reveal is different than paying devs to not show-up at a competitor's reveal. I hope you at least see that there's a difference. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    Well i guess "wrong" is subjective.

    However, paying devs to show-up at one's own reveal is different than paying devs to not show-up at a competitor's reveal. I hope you at least see that there's a difference. lol
    The paid them to shut up....

    Blizzard's Lead Designer, Joshua Mosqueira, said that, while he can't confirm anything, Diablo 3 isn't "necessarily a Sony exclusive."
    Why couldn't he confirm anything I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    The paid them to shut up....

    Why couldn't he confirm anything I wonder?
    I wasn't aware D3 was marketed as exclusive during the reveal? I must have missed it then. Either way, regardless of which company, this kind of strategy is laughable and wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    I wasn't aware D3 was marketed as exclusive during the reveal? I must have missed it then. Either way, regardless of which company, this kind of strategy is laughable and wrong.
    I think we are all cynical enough to see through it. Basically unless a dev says "it's exclusive" it aint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    I wasn't aware D3 was marketed as exclusive during the reveal? I must have missed it then. Either way, regardless of which company, this kind of strategy is laughable and wrong.
    sure you weren't aware....lol Its called a blind eye. It's all just advertising, period. E-3 is just one big advertising show. Sony uses money to advertise too. Maybe not as much but they do it.



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    Paying to get the exclusive stage time is one thing. Paying to not be able to show it on floor is a while different kind of wrong. I understand it's business but damn. Not to mention if this went down they would have had to fork out a lot. A lot of money that could have went to maybe I don't know, make some new games? It's business but this extremely cut throat. Especially the venue that it is taking place at.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    sure you weren't aware....lol Its called a blind eye. It's all just advertising, period. E-3 is just one big advertising show. Sony uses money to advertise too. Maybe not as much but they do it.
    Um. During the reveal Sony didn't say D3 was exclusive, at least I didn't hear it. And I already said I probably missed it if they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    sure you weren't aware....lol Its called a blind eye. It's all just advertising, period. E-3 is just one big advertising show. Sony uses money to advertise too. Maybe not as much but they do it.


    Why am I not surprised you're defending this

    Paying to have your name slapped across a game's advertisements, in other words splitting the ad fees (something MS makes extensive use of) is completely different to paying a publisher to NOT SHOW a game at a competitors booth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Why am I not surprised you're defending this

    Paying to have your name slapped across a game's advertisements, in other words splitting the ad fees (something MS makes extensive use of) is completely different to paying a publisher to NOT SHOW a game at a competitors booth.
    They are being paid to show the game running on a particular system, not at the competitors both. These games will be at their own booths, not MS or Sonys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It's just business and advertising. Both of them do it and it's not wrong. At least I don't see it that way....lol When Blizzard and Activision showed up at sony's reveal you think there was no money behind that? This is no different, if it's even true.
    There was money behind it alright, but do you honestly think they can talk about Xbone when it was a SONY PS4 event?

    Didn't see EA talking about FIFA/Madden coming PS4 at an Xbone event, did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanehead View Post
    There was money behind it alright, but do you honestly think they can talk about Xbone when it was a SONY PS4 event?

    Didn't see EA talking about FIFA/Madden coming PS4 at an Xbone event, did you?
    Post conference, blizzard was not able to confirm any other version until this past week.
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    I just saw this in the PS4 section and its posted here too? lol

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    Can't these companies just pay this money ti market their own games, and not pay other companies so they don't market other people's games/hardware? lol

    Seems the long way to go around if you want people to buy your $#@!e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    This happens EVERY YEAR, Sony puts theirs in prime time. This shouldn't come as surprise to anyone. But still they all run around here like headless choocks..

    Every god dam year.
    why did spike buy exclusivity to show it... If they don't have a time slot to show it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Just want to point the hypocrisy of this all....




    This $#@! happens all the time.
    Buying exclusivity/funding development is different to buying the blocking of a video/trailer/on stage demo. Yet the games are still multiplat.

    That's petty and Desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victorijapoosp View Post
    why did spike buy exclusivity to show it... If they don't have a time slot to show it?
    because they buy it as package. Its e3 they buy not "sony".
    Buying exclusivity/funding development is different to buying the blocking of a video/trailer/on stage demo. Yet the games are still multiplat.


    That's petty and Desperate.
    Sony didn't buy exclusivity or even fund Diablo III.

    They paid Blizzard to shut up about any other version of them game, and announce a partnership with Sony. Not just at Sony reveal (which is understandable) but for the past 4 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Blizzard's Lead Designer, Joshua Mosqueira, said that, while he can't confirm anything, Diablo 3 isn't "necessarily a Sony exclusive."
    Why couldn't he confirm anything I wonder?
    howay, you know why... MS paid him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Paying to get the exclusive stage time is one thing. Paying to not be able to show it on floor is a while different kind of wrong.
    lets assume they did pay and as YOU say... it's wrong.
    what are your feelings towards those devs that took the money, will you still buy there games on PS4 knowing they did not care enough about that system to say no to MS's money?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Paying to have your name slapped across a game's advertisements, in other words splitting the ad fees (something MS makes extensive use of) is completely different to paying a publisher to NOT SHOW a game at a competitors booth.
    it's shocking if true. i'll not buy those games on Xbox ONE to get them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    it's shocking if true. i'll not buy those games on Xbox ONE to get them back.
    I'd say not buying the game at all would "get them back". If a publisher accepted money to not promote/show, etc., their game on the other platforms, then how would buying their game at all get them back?




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    This is one of the most stupid rumors I have ever heard.

    1. Why would Microsoft show a developer how shady they are, by trying to pay them off and not show off their hard work?

    2. What dev/publisher would partner up with a company, and not show their title, which promotes sales for both sides?


    This is why I think this rumor is garbage. If I develop a game, you bet your ass I will be showing it off on all consoles I made it for. That is if I am ready to show it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    This is one of the most stupid rumors I have ever heard.

    1. Why would Microsoft show a developer how shady they are, by trying to pay them off and not show off their hard work?

    2. What dev/publisher would partner up with a company, and not show their title, which promotes sales for both sides?


    This is why I think this rumor is garbage. If I develop a game, you bet your ass I will be showing it off on all consoles I made it for. That is if I am ready to show it off.
    We'll find out soon won't we? If a bunch of 3rd party games are shown by MS and most of them aren't shown by Sony we'll know it's true.

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    Sony is going to show 1st party or exclusives. That's their plan.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Typical guy View Post
    We'll find out soon won't we? If a bunch of 3rd party games are shown by MS and most of them aren't shown by Sony we'll know it's true.
    When have we ever seen the same 3rd party games at both shows? I don't recall any 3rd party studio doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    When have we ever seen the same 3rd party games at both shows? I don't recall any 3rd party studio doing that.
    So what are you saying, that it's not true and there's no way you can be proven right because they never do this. Therefore it's your word against a billion other people's? Strong argument ftw.

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    The paid them to shut up....



    Why couldn't he confirm anything I wonder?
    because xbone hadn't been revealed yet and was not at liberty to talk about it?



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