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    PS4 Online Pay to Play

    Sigh... This pisses me off...

    I don't understand why pay to play is required...

    If there are servers involved for the games, then... ok... I can see that...

    But if I remember correctly, online play is peer to peer connections between all the playstations that want to play together... no server use involved...

    Now... if Galkai is included with ps+... then I'll take ps+.. but even then.. any ONLINE GAME that is PEER TO PEER should be free! Otherwise NO!

    Sigh...
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    I wasn't happy about it either but the free game it comes with definitely helps take the sting out of it.

    Here's a question... does this only extend to PS4 games? Are we going to still be able to play online multi-player on our PS3 games? If so what happens with Diablo III which is going to be released on both systems?

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    Mow one lawn a month.
    Where do you live? I will gladly pay you $5 to mow my lawn every month!

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    You'd think everyone here would be in an uproar, with all the $#@! Xbox 360 catches in regards to having to pay to play online...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzano-O View Post
    You'd think everyone here would be in an uproar, with all the $#@! Xbox 360 catches in regards to having to pay to play online...
    I think it's a fair trade. A free game, hell I already pay for plus anyway and gets tons of free games...and a year without DRM online play? Yeah, I'll accept that. Sweet sweet freedom.


    I don't really need a water cooler/remote control as of right now.

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    We don't like it... but it was inevitable. Can't really expect the kind of things they're offering this time around for free.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Yeah harder to download stuff from other country psn now I guess..I.e japan eu. If you had accounts for them.
    I was mad at first but it sounds reasonable with the stuff you get and all.

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    Will people EVER be happy? Seriously, we get a far lower price than what MS is requesting, yet an even more powerful console with no DRM. Who the hell cares for payed online (which will make the service far better anyways)?

    Do you want to get everything shoved down your throats for free?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    Will people EVER be happy? Seriously, we get a far lower price than what MS is requesting, yet an even more powerful console with no DRM. Who the hell cares for payed online (which will make the service far better anyways)?

    Do you want to get everything shoved down your throats for free?
    This times 1,000!!! PS Plus is already a really awesome deal anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RugerRellP89 View Post
    This times 1,000!!! PS Plus is already a really awesome deal anyways.
    it was that awesome i let mine expire

    its not that big a deal really, $5 a month really isn't that much especially if you can afford broadband....
    i think people are just taking a somewhat conservative stance on the matter.
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    I don't mind paying this is nothing compared to what ms is doing.
    I just hope they have dedicated servers then it would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterMunky View Post
    Mow one lawn a month.
    this.




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    Can't front on Sony's technique.

    It's cheaper than XBL. They probs need the income though to offset the lower price, plus the increasing demand for faster, more advanced, dedicated servers. Who knows.

    Way I see it.... if you got PS+ you're already expecting at least 5 FREE PS4 games up front... War Frame, Planetside 2, DC Universe Online, Blacklight: Retribution, DriveClub Plus. That is not even including the free games in the indie section.

    That frees up AAAALOT more cash to buy other games you might be scoping out.

    Not to mention they prob will have a PS+PS4 bundle in there somewhere this holiday.

    Actually according to the rumors, 2 bundles... So, maybe, 399 for the basic with controller and headset and then two diff bundles above that...

    Hopefully 449 will be that with a bigger HDD and PS+ and a 1st party game and maybe $549 or $599 with all that plus the Eyetoy and Kill Zone with an extra control.

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    Sigh... some of you don't get it...
    Its not about the money. It really isn't.
    Like I said, IF THE GAME REQUIRES a server or uses a server, then that is a cost to the publisher / developer (whoever is running the server). It needs to be covered, no problem.

    But if its a PEER TO PEER game ( and most games are, like uncharted, gran turismo, etc), these should be free to play... the playstations of the users who want to play that game are communicating with each other, making the server and running it, all on the users dime...

    I'm just wondering about games like Infamous 2, where you could get user made & developer made extra missions to play / extend the gameplay. Technically online, but really just downloads a parameter... does that require ps+? I really hope not!

    But even playing uncharted 3 multiplayer deathmatch, from what i understand... DOES NOT USE ANY SERVER!... why are we paying to play that?

    Sigh,
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    Hopefully with this move, Sony pulls out Steam-like-sales for all their titles in the future. I'm still not happy with a pay wall.







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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Not paying it.
    You're gonna play PC games anyway.
    "The biggest adversary in our life is ourselves. We are what we are, in a sense, because of the dominating thoughts we allow to gather in our head. All concepts of self-improvement, all actions and paths we take, relate solely to our abstract image of ourselves. Life is limited only by how we really see ourselves and feel about our being. A great deal of pure self-knowledge and inner understanding allows us to lay an all-important foundation for the structure of our life from which we can perceive and take the right avenues.

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    Is there a confirmation to this? Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissent View Post
    I wasn't happy about it either but the free game it comes with definitely helps take the sting out of it.

    Here's a question... does this only extend to PS4 games? Are we going to still be able to play online multi-player on our PS3 games? If so what happens with Diablo III which is going to be released on both systems?
    Well, I assume that eventually there will be PS3/Vita games that will require PS+ for online play. its only a matter of time.


    Btw, they clearly mentioned that PS+ will include online play and that non-subscribers will still be able to enjoy singleplayer games. It just required that you pay close attention to what they said.
    Almost everyone will say: buy console that has games that you want, and those who say otherwise are ignorant.

    Playstation Move for the win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    Is there a confirmation to this? Link?
    Check the fine print at 12secs.



    I already get PS+ but this is still disappointing to hear.
    I blame MS for introducing it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitbydeath View Post
    Check the fine print at 12secs.



    I already get PS+ but this is still disappointing to hear.
    I blame MS for introducing it in the first place.
    True but PS+ is still giving something in return. Though MS has introduced many other great features that the entire industry uses now e.g. achievements.

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    Big whoop at least they do not hide the apps behind a paywall like MS. Plus you still got your awesome free games and it is less than $5 a month cheaper than live. So between now and time it comes out do not get that $8 starbucks coffe, do not get that $7 fast food meal, and there you go.
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    I knew it was coming. It's not a big deal to me but I won a bet with someone over this though. Tomorrow is gonna be pay up day.

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    I wouldn't mind paying. 60 bucks a year? You'll save more with the free games. Everything so far is going well with the PS4 for me. Just need to see some damn exclusives. I guess Gamescom maybe, hopefully

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