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    PS4 Online Pay to Play

    Sigh... This pisses me off...

    I don't understand why pay to play is required...

    If there are servers involved for the games, then... ok... I can see that...

    But if I remember correctly, online play is peer to peer connections between all the playstations that want to play together... no server use involved...

    Now... if Galkai is included with ps+... then I'll take ps+.. but even then.. any ONLINE GAME that is PEER TO PEER should be free! Otherwise NO!

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    I wasn't happy about it either but the free game it comes with definitely helps take the sting out of it.

    Here's a question... does this only extend to PS4 games? Are we going to still be able to play online multi-player on our PS3 games? If so what happens with Diablo III which is going to be released on both systems?

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    You'd think everyone here would be in an uproar, with all the $#@! Xbox 360 catches in regards to having to pay to play online...

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    We don't like it... but it was inevitable. Can't really expect the kind of things they're offering this time around for free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzano-O View Post
    You'd think everyone here would be in an uproar, with all the $#@! Xbox 360 catches in regards to having to pay to play online...
    I think it's a fair trade. A free game, hell I already pay for plus anyway and gets tons of free games...and a year without DRM online play? Yeah, I'll accept that. Sweet sweet freedom.


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    Yeah harder to download stuff from other country psn now I guess..I.e japan eu. If you had accounts for them.
    I was mad at first but it sounds reasonable with the stuff you get and all.

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    Will people EVER be happy? Seriously, we get a far lower price than what MS is requesting, yet an even more powerful console with no DRM. Who the hell cares for payed online (which will make the service far better anyways)?

    Do you want to get everything shoved down your throats for free?



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    I don't mind paying this is nothing compared to what ms is doing.
    I just hope they have dedicated servers then it would be awesome.

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    Hopefully with this move, Sony pulls out Steam-like-sales for all their titles in the future. I'm still not happy with a pay wall.







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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Not paying it.
    You're gonna play PC games anyway.


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    Can't front on Sony's technique.

    It's cheaper than XBL. They probs need the income though to offset the lower price, plus the increasing demand for faster, more advanced, dedicated servers. Who knows.

    Way I see it.... if you got PS+ you're already expecting at least 5 FREE PS4 games up front... War Frame, Planetside 2, DC Universe Online, Blacklight: Retribution, DriveClub Plus. That is not even including the free games in the indie section.

    That frees up AAAALOT more cash to buy other games you might be scoping out.

    Not to mention they prob will have a PS+PS4 bundle in there somewhere this holiday.

    Actually according to the rumors, 2 bundles... So, maybe, 399 for the basic with controller and headset and then two diff bundles above that...

    Hopefully 449 will be that with a bigger HDD and PS+ and a 1st party game and maybe $549 or $599 with all that plus the Eyetoy and Kill Zone with an extra control.

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    I knew it was coming. It's not a big deal to me but I won a bet with someone over this though. Tomorrow is gonna be pay up day.

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    I wouldn't mind paying. 60 bucks a year? You'll save more with the free games. Everything so far is going well with the PS4 for me. Just need to see some damn exclusives. I guess Gamescom maybe, hopefully

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    Sigh... some of you don't get it...
    Its not about the money. It really isn't.
    Like I said, IF THE GAME REQUIRES a server or uses a server, then that is a cost to the publisher / developer (whoever is running the server). It needs to be covered, no problem.

    But if its a PEER TO PEER game ( and most games are, like uncharted, gran turismo, etc), these should be free to play... the playstations of the users who want to play that game are communicating with each other, making the server and running it, all on the users dime...

    I'm just wondering about games like Infamous 2, where you could get user made & developer made extra missions to play / extend the gameplay. Technically online, but really just downloads a parameter... does that require ps+? I really hope not!

    But even playing uncharted 3 multiplayer deathmatch, from what i understand... DOES NOT USE ANY SERVER!... why are we paying to play that?

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    A little bummed but I was going to get PS+ soon...still, a little bummed...well you can't have it all right.

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    its of little consequence to myself. i let it run out at the end of last year and have only been waiting for a reason to sign back up. if that reason happens to be that i need it to play online again then so be it. its as good a reason as any.

    thing that gets me though, is it kinda defeats the purpose of the F2P games. technically, they're not F2P anymore....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissent View Post
    I wasn't happy about it either but the free game it comes with definitely helps take the sting out of it.

    Here's a question... does this only extend to PS4 games? Are we going to still be able to play online multi-player on our PS3 games? If so what happens with Diablo III which is going to be released on both systems?
    Well, I assume that eventually there will be PS3/Vita games that will require PS+ for online play. its only a matter of time.


    Btw, they clearly mentioned that PS+ will include online play and that non-subscribers will still be able to enjoy singleplayer games. It just required that you pay close attention to what they said.
    Almost everyone will say: buy console that has games that you want, and those who say otherwise are ignorant.

    Playstation Move for the win!

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    Will this require a credit card?

    Not going to lie, I'm not happy about this particular aspect, but, I'm not really an online player much anyway.

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    It's not that big of a deal to me honestly. I had plus and I loved it. I would easily pay to have plus again. Don't get me wrong in not thrilled to pay to play but whatever. I'll deal. I will take this over DRM and $499 price tag any day with the same conditions and a worse content. BTW MS is basically stealing the plus idea but not as good.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrb_Collector View Post
    Will this require a credit card?

    Not going to lie, I'm not happy about this particular aspect, but, I'm not really an online player much anyway.
    If you don't like online, you won't like next-gen much. I feel like a lot of games will go online.

    PS+ better come with much better features than the previous one.

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