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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    MS marketing strategy in a nutshell.
    That's just common sense bro and that goes for any other product out there.

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    My screwed over interpretation. If you don't buy it, you're not being screwed over. If you do buy it, and you didn't like it before you even bought it, you're not getting screwed over. If you buy it, and like it, you're not being screwed over.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    And you have every right to do that, just like they a right to take this sort of risk. I understand why people are upset, and just because some accept it doesn't mean they all agree with it. So I disagree when people say they are being screwed over, because I don't see it. It's not like they are putting out the product and not informing you of the restrictions. They are saying this is the direction we are going and if it isn't for you, don't buy it or just stick to xbox360. Sometimes change isn't easy and there is a chance that in the future that console hardware may be obsolete in bringing games to customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Have you ever stopped to think about why people are annoyed with the required connection
    Yup. And acknowledged it a million times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    If the supposed 24hr online check is required for disc based games, when the disc is present. That's a restriction. Also, the required check-in for updates, features, etc. That's another restriction. If I want to update the Xbox, then I will. If I don't, then I won't. It should be my choice. My Xbox One shouldn't be non-functional based on a 24hr check.
    while i understand what your saying....

    regards 24 hour thing, i thought you installed the game then did not need the disk in the drive?

    as regards updates of software and system, i pay for Plus so that it does auto updates on my PS3. i can only see auto updates of the system as a good thing for Xbox ONE.

    again, i hear what your saying as regards the 24hour non functional thing and i'm wondering if that is right, how will MS get around me turning of the power my electrical sockets when i go on holiday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Making sure the games you are playing isn't a used game that came from an unapproved friend, non-participating retailer, etc.
    i don't consider not being able to play used games as a problem as i'd not use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    He doesn't have Internet?
    why would anyone think of buying an Xbox ONE when they know it needs to be online?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    There are some some people who would never buy xbox regardless of the restrictions. You could be one of those people, but it's your choice. If publishers want to take a risk with this, then it's their choice. Let them do it, and if it fails, they will have learned a lesson. It's a free market system and they have the right to try to make more money. We as customers have a right to reject it by not buying the product. It's ok for gamestop to benefit from the free market but not the game makers? That makes no sense to me.
    on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    while i understand what your saying....

    regards 24 hour thing, i thought you installed the game then did not need the disk in the drive?

    as regards updates of software and system, i pay for Plus so that it does auto updates on my PS3. i can only see auto updates of the system as a good thing for Xbox ONE.

    again, i hear what your saying as regards the 24hour non functional thing and i'm wondering if that is right, how will MS get around me turning of the power my electrical sockets when i go on holiday?
    That's the premise right now. I think that the 24hr check is for digital games online. I think it is, and should be, if the disc is present, you don't have to do the 24hr check thing. It's BS for the requirement.

    I also pay for PS+, and I welcome the updates, etc., but they aren't required. My PS3 works for years w/o a single online connection.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    i don't consider not being able to play used games as a problem as i'd not use them.
    You're good then. Between myself and my two sons buying new all the time and not having the option to trade games in isn't cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Yup. And acknowledged it a million times.
    i think people are just not accepting of the fact that MS are wanting to try something new, and to make cloud work they need online consoles.

    they don't need to buy the Xbox ONE, problem solved. but they feel the constant need for whining on about it and have a serious problem in accepting that people don't have a problem with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I also pay for PS+, and I welcome the updates, etc., but they aren't required. My PS3 works for years w/o a single online connection.
    and there is your answer, stick with the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    Were you ever going to buy an Xbox One?


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    Eventually, if the drm wasn't there.

    As of now...
    DRM + $499 for the weaker console = hell no

    The $#@! do you care for anyways? I'll keep posting in this section as I see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    You're good then. Between myself and my two sons buying new all the time and not having the option to trade games in isn't cool.
    and that is why i don't have a problem with anything i've read about what MS are or are supposedly doing.

    if you have a problem with not being able to sell your games or even play second hand. why are you even talking about Xbox ONE?

    there are quite a few other consoles out or coming out that will meet your needs, moaning about Xbox ONE not being able to meet your needs when other consoles can, mystifies me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    i think people are just not accepting of the fact that MS are wanting to try something new, and to make cloud work they need online consoles.

    they don't need to buy the Xbox ONE, problem solved. but they feel the constant need for whining on about it and have a serious problem in accepting that people don't have a problem with it.



    and there is your answer, stick with the PS3.
    They can try all the new $#@! they want, I am just scared as hell that the way they are wanting to implement DRM is the future! Looks at Microsoft's track record...not exactly one that makes you all warm and fuzzy inside...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Yup. And acknowledged it a million times.
    Yet you belittle people by saying guess he doesn't have internet?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    and that is why i don't have a problem with anything i've read about what MS are or are supposedly doing.

    if you have a problem with not being able to sell your games or even play second hand. why are you even talking about Xbox ONE?

    there are quite a few other consoles out or coming out that will meet your needs, moaning about Xbox ONE not being able to meet your needs when other consoles can, mystifies me.
    Uh.....cuz I enjoy Xbox games and I've paid enough to Microsoft over the years to be able to $#@! about their ridiculous policies going into the next generation. Cuz keeping quiet and "accepting" it isn't going to change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Uh.....cuz I enjoy Xbox games and I've paid enough to Microsoft over the years to be able to $#@! about their ridiculous policies going into the next generation. Cuz keeping quiet and "accepting" it isn't going to change anything.
    good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Eventually, if the drm wasn't there.

    As of now...
    DRM + $499 for the weaker console = hell no

    The $#@! do you care for anyways? I'll keep posting in this section as I see fit.

    @the thumbs down. Why you mad tho? You mad that I read your mind about trying to tell me not to post here? You'll be ok.
    i simply asked a question. paranoid much....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Uh.....cuz I enjoy Xbox games and I've paid enough to Microsoft over the years to be able to $#@! about their ridiculous policies going into the next generation. Cuz keeping quiet and "accepting" it isn't going to change anything.
    Exactly! I have been with MS since the beginning. Been through multiple 360's due to the RROD, overspent on peripherals and was always a loyal customer. This is the thanks we get; An under-powered console that has draconian DRM and connectivity requirements and has announced fewer launch titles than Sony has exclusives.
    I don't need no stinkin' signature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    and that is why i don't have a problem with anything i've read about what MS are or are supposedly doing.

    if you have a problem with not being able to sell your games or even play second hand. why are you even talking about Xbox ONE?

    there are quite a few other consoles out or coming out that will meet your needs, moaning about Xbox ONE not being able to meet your needs when other consoles can, mystifies me.
    Well the Xbox One has the best line up of games, has the infamous Xbox Live, has substantial power, cloud support, multitasking and a slew of new features. Hard to pass that by. Can't wait to own both consoles. Woot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    Eventually, if the drm wasn't there.

    As of now...
    DRM + $499 for the weaker console = hell no

    The $#@! do you care for anyways? I'll keep posting in this section as I see fit.

    @the thumbs down. Why you mad tho? You mad that I read your mind about trying to tell me not to post here? You'll be ok.
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    i simply asked a question. paranoid much....
    Guys, please nip THIS in the ass before it escalates! Thanks!

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    That was a nice way for him to say ''FK you, not my problem, you're not important. This is about the FUTURE, man.'' That's what I got out of it anyway. I mean, to be a microsoft fan has to suck right now. If there isn't a lot of MS loyalists that don't feel betrayed. Something is definately wrong with that picture. Reading the guys body language I almost thought he was going to say something like, "so what, who cares. It's Xbox."

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