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    Why are you an xbox fan and what would it take for you to leave it?

    I got a two part question for you guys. I'm just curious because I have actually thought about what it would take for me to stop buying games period and where my lines are But....

    I have been thinking about all the info about the xbone and ps4. I have read a lot about fans not too happy about DRM with the xbox one. I have seen several youtube vids about the subject of not buying the xbox one until changes are made. But I want to know despite all the stuff that has been announced and is in the works with the xbox one,...Why are you an xbox fan? Is it because your friends got one and you just went with it and jumped on the ship. Is it the games like Halo or Gears of war that keep you buying xbox stuff? is it simply because you got it before playstation and just prefer it because you are used to it?

    I am just curious because never have a seen that loyal of a following for something that they can pretty much tell the customer what they can and cannot do and STILL have people wanting to buy their product. I'm not bashing anyone for wanting one. I actually have both PS3 and Xbox 360. I prefer the ps3. I think I have a total of 3 or 5 games for the xbox and way more for my ps3. I will say the reason I even bought an xbox was because some of the multi platform games looked a little better on the 360 than the ps3. But to me the ps3 exclusives killed the 360, Metal Gear solid 4 being one of those and to me the graphics were better with the exlusives that playstation offered vs xbox. But I am just curious to know what would it take for you guys to say, " enough is enough, im no longer buying xbox products such as the xbox one." Where do you draw the line, or is there a line? Are you too invested and can't stop buying games? If the future of video games is what MS's outlook is, then I won't buy anything in the future. Once what MS is trying to implement now becomes the normal way of doing things, then i won't continue to buy or play games in the future. That is just me. What about you? Chime in. im curious to know.

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    Look at Apple, they are full of DRM and restrictions yet people for some reason still like to throw money at them...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Look at Apple, they are full of DRM and restrictions yet people for some reason still like to throw money at them...
    I don't own any Apple products...but I'm pretty sure that most of the content you buy on their devices still works without an internet connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    I don't own any Apple products...but I'm pretty sure that most of the content you buy on their devices still works without an internet connection.

    There is an increasing trend in some games and apps to require access to the net on them.

    I have an iPad and Kindle Fire... when my boys grab them, there are quite a few of their apps that MUST check into the internet. For the Android store, it is even worse... on the Kindle if we are not connected to the net at home, the store sometimes will disable the apps stating that we have to log in to verify the purchase.
    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    There is an increasing trend in some games and apps to require access to the net on them.

    I have an iPad and Kindle Fire... when my boys grab them, there are quite a few of their apps that MUST check into the internet. For the Android store, it is even worse... on the Kindle if we are not connected to the net at home, the store sometimes will disable the apps stating that we have to log in to verify the purchase.
    Then you should boycott all those devices too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Then you should boycott all those devices too.
    I am not boycotting anything LOL

    It is pretty simple to enable the wifi.

    People don't realize what they are being dictated to by companies. Wanna buy a HP printer? Better use HP ink otherwise the printer will disable its printer ink volume warning, or constantly inform you that you are not using the right ink. Want a song on your iPod? Ok, Apple will convert it so you can't share it.

    Even the fiasco when Sony removed the Linux boot option. They made it clear that when you buy a console, you don't "buy" the software. You are leasing it. SO they can tell YOU what you will do with the software.

    Castrating MS over these policies is ridiculous when practically every company that has proprietary inventory or property does it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    There is an increasing trend in some games and apps to require access to the net on them.

    I have an iPad and Kindle Fire... when my boys grab them, there are quite a few of their apps that MUST check into the internet. For the Android store, it is even worse... on the Kindle if we are not connected to the net at home, the store sometimes will disable the apps stating that we have to log in to verify the purchase.
    I'd say "generally" those are software limits, not built into the hardware. Personally I wouldn't think about buying any app like that unless it needed the net to run obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    I'd say "generally" those are software limits, not built into the hardware. Personally I wouldn't think about buying any app like that unless it needed the net to run obviously.

    yeah it is general, and mostly software, but the limitation is there. Regardless if it is chips and electrons or code making the wall, the wall is there that apps need internet to verify if it can run. MS's deal with the 24 hour check is complete BS, IMO (i have shady internet), but it is their choice and the pubs choice to protect their bottom line. Just like it is our choice as consumers to buy or not buy it.
    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    There is an increasing trend in some games and apps to require access to the net on them.

    I have an iPad and Kindle Fire... when my boys grab them, there are quite a few of their apps that MUST check into the internet. For the Android store, it is even worse... on the Kindle if we are not connected to the net at home, the store sometimes will disable the apps stating that we have to log in to verify the purchase.

    That's odd, none of my games stop working in airplane mode. Sure I can't check email or web surf in airplane mode, but that's not the same as a DRM based on a net connection, that's the basic functionality. I wouldn't have any issues not being able to play online multiplayer if my net was down, I would have issues if I couldn't play single player because my net was down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipated View Post
    I got a two part question for you guys. I'm just curious because I have actually thought about what it would take for me to stop buying games period and where my lines are But....

    I have been thinking about all the info about the xbone and ps4. I have read a lot about fans not too happy about DRM with the xbox one. I have seen several youtube vids about the subject of not buying the xbox one until changes are made. But I want to know despite all the stuff that has been announced and is in the works with the xbox one,...Why are you an xbox fan? Is it because your friends got one and you just went with it and jumped on the ship. Is it the games like Halo or Gears of war that keep you buying xbox stuff? is it simply because you got it before playstation and just prefer it because you are used to it?

    I am just curious because never have a seen that loyal of a following for something that they can pretty much tell the customer what they can and cannot do and STILL have people wanting to buy their product. I'm not bashing anyone for wanting one. I actually have both PS3 and Xbox 360. I prefer the ps3. I think I have a total of 3 or 5 games for the xbox and way more for my ps3. I will say the reason I even bought an xbox was because some of the multi platform games looked a little better on the 360 than the ps3. But to me the ps3 exclusives killed the 360, Metal Gear solid 4 being one of those and to me the graphics were better with the exlusives that playstation offered vs xbox. But I am just curious to know what would it take for you guys to say, " enough is enough, im no longer buying xbox products such as the xbox one." Where do you draw the line, or is there a line? Are you too invested and can't stop buying games? If the future of video games is what MS's outlook is, then I won't buy anything in the future. Once what MS is trying to implement now becomes the normal way of doing things, then i won't continue to buy or play games in the future. That is just me. What about you? Chime in. im curious to know.
    So you've never seen an apple product?

    Also how do you think digital downloads (only, no disc) and drm will work with the PS5 and other consoles of that generation?

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    I have seen an apple product. Get ready for the shocker, I don't own any apple products. No Iphone here. But as this relates to games I don't see the connection. I don't see where apple products and phones doing what they do should carry over to video game platforms nor why it should because then there wouldn't be a real need for consoles.



    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    So you've never seen an apple product?

    Also how do you think digital downloads (only, no disc) and drm will work with the PS5 and other consoles of that generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipated View Post
    I have seen an apple product. Get ready for the shocker, I don't own any apple products. No Iphone here. But as this relates to games I don't see the connection. I don't see where apple products and phones doing what they do should carry over to video game platforms nor why it should because then there wouldn't be a real need for consoles.
    Because Apple has tons of DRM and restricts what the consumer can do with their product, yet people still buy their garbage.


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    I'll continue to buy and play 360 games for quite some time. Not out of any sense of loyalty. Just has some great games. Whether or not I ever get Xbox One depends on if MS changes their DRM policies and if they stick to forcing me to buy Kinect. I'd love to have one but it just isn't worth it at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Because Apple has tons of DRM and restricts what the consumer can do with their product, yet people still buy their garbage.
    You mean the DRM in Apple's downloadable content like music and apps?
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    I dont stubbornly stick to a brand and blindly accept everything they do. I was mainly a Playstation guy during the PS1 and PS2 days although I did have an OG Xbox. This gen the 360 was my main console and PS3 was mostly for exclusives. I was a very staunch defender of Xbox this gen. But MS has made some decisions that I just wont go along with for next gen. If Sony was the one who had done that and not MS then I would support the Xbone. But as it turns out Sony has made all the right decisions plus PS4 has more games that I want. So next gen I'm back to being a Playstation guy and buying a PS4 on day one.

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    I have been with MS since '05 but I have already pre-ordered he PS4 and won't be getting the One. I'm not loyal to a company or console, only to myself and what I want and like.

    The reasons I'm making the switch?


    • Too many restrictions for me on the One.
    • PSN+ is just about on par with Live and you gets tons of free games and other stuff for the same price.
    • A lot more exclusive titles that I care about.


    And I'm not even going to get into the MS attitude toward consumers thing as that is really a whole other topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipated View Post
    I got a two part question for you guys. I'm just curious because I have actually thought about what it would take for me to stop buying games period and where my lines are But....

    I have been thinking about all the info about the xbone and ps4. I have read a lot about fans not too happy about DRM with the xbox one. I have seen several youtube vids about the subject of not buying the xbox one until changes are made. But I want to know despite all the stuff that has been announced and is in the works with the xbox one,...Why are you an xbox fan? Is it because your friends got one and you just went with it and jumped on the ship. Is it the games like Halo or Gears of war that keep you buying xbox stuff? is it simply because you got it before playstation and just prefer it because you are used to it?

    I am just curious because never have a seen that loyal of a following for something that they can pretty much tell the customer what they can and cannot do and STILL have people wanting to buy their product. I'm not bashing anyone for wanting one. I actually have both PS3 and Xbox 360. I prefer the ps3. I think I have a total of 3 or 5 games for the xbox and way more for my ps3. I will say the reason I even bought an xbox was because some of the multi platform games looked a little better on the 360 than the ps3. But to me the ps3 exclusives killed the 360, Metal Gear solid 4 being one of those and to me the graphics were better with the exlusives that playstation offered vs xbox. But I am just curious to know what would it take for you guys to say, " enough is enough, im no longer buying xbox products such as the xbox one." Where do you draw the line, or is there a line? Are you too invested and can't stop buying games? If the future of video games is what MS's outlook is, then I won't buy anything in the future. Once what MS is trying to implement now becomes the normal way of doing things, then i won't continue to buy or play games in the future. That is just me. What about you? Chime in. im curious to know.
    I enjoy Xbox (and Xbox One):

    1. Games
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    4. Xbox Live
    5. Achievements
    6. Friends and family all will be buying one
    7. I am connected 24 x 7
    8. I don't trade games in
    9. I don't buy used games
    10. Multitasking & Cloud features

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyClaw View Post
    Look at Apple, they are full of DRM and restrictions yet people for some reason still like to throw money at them...
    I spend WAYYYY too much on Apple products But I would rather buy that stuff than the hardware crap out there running any Windows platform. Android products are ok in my experience, but not as good in ease of use in comparison. But seriously, I should watch what I spend on Apple stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I enjoy Xbox (and Xbox One):

    1. Games
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    6. Friends and family all will be buying one
    7. I am connected 24 x 7
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    The reason I choose Sony over Microsoft is easy everything Microsoft do is mass market while Sony are quite a niche company that develops games unlike that re-hashed Hollywood crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I enjoy Xbox (and Xbox One):

    1. Games
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    6. Friends and family all will be buying one
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    I spend WAYYYY too much on Apple products But I would rather buy that stuff than the hardware crap out there running any Windows platform. Android products are ok in my experience, but not as good in ease of use in comparison. But seriously, I should watch what I spend on Apple stuff.
    I have a solution. Don't buy $#@!ty windows stuff. Buy good windows stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipated View Post
    I have seen an apple product. Get ready for the shocker, I don't own any apple products. No Iphone here. But as this relates to games I don't see the connection. I don't see where apple products and phones doing what they do should carry over to video game platforms nor why it should because then there wouldn't be a real need for consoles.
    not related to games, but they do limit what you can/cannot do with their products. Basically one size/option fits all is their approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    I have a solution. Don't buy $#@!ty windows stuff. Buy good windows stuff.



    not related to games, but they do limit what you can/cannot do with their products. Basically one size/option fits all is their approach.
    Somewhat true for iPhone and iPad, but not true at all for Apple computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Somewhat true for iPhone and iPad, but not true at all for Apple computers.
    Not really with the direction they are going in with the MBA's and MBP's with retina display. They already had a sealed battery, they now expanded that to the RAM, Storage and CPU. Pretty sure even the screws that hold together the case are proprietary. About as locked down as you can get.

    Even with the desktops, mac mini, imac and now even the mac pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Man Gamer View Post
    I have been with MS since '05 but I have already pre-ordered he PS4 and won't be getting the One. I'm not loyal to a company or console, only to myself and what I want and like.

    The reasons I'm making the switch?


    • Too many restrictions for me on the One.
    • PSN+ is just about on par with Live and you gets tons of free games and other stuff for the same price.
    • A lot more exclusive titles that I care about.


    And I'm not even going to get into the MS attitude toward consumers thing as that is really a whole other topic.
    This is the view that everyone needs to have, if everything was flipped and Sony was pushing the DRM, etc. on us and Microsoft was unrestricted then I would get a Xbox One. It is just wrong they way they are pushing this onto everyone, just seems like they didn't think everything through too well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
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    10. Multitasking & Cloud features



    I spend WAYYYY too much on Apple products But I would rather buy that stuff than the hardware crap out there running any Windows platform. Android products are ok in my experience, but not as good in ease of use in comparison. But seriously, I should watch what I spend on Apple stuff.
    And that is fine if that is what you really want, I just don't understand it...

    I do agree that stuff running the Windows platform is pretty horrid, the only reason we all mostly use Windows still is because of their monopoly, one reason why I will never own a Windows smartphone or tablet, I will be damned to let them get a foot in the door and ruin that too! So you are not going to be upset when xx years down the line that thing turns into a door stop because of the DRM? And all your family and friends are getting on?! I have yet to meet anything other than on this forum that is actually getting one, all the people I know that are diehard hard Xbox fans are ditching and going to a PS4, ones that I thought would never leave that platform...
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    Can't argue with that. Thanks for answering.

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    I like Halo. And I wouldn't even have 360 if I didn't happen upon that gametrailers drawing.
    besides that my lousy college buds all have 360s some twist.

    that is it.

    Hey matter of fact I'm not a fan. What the hell am I doing here! hehe
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