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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
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    You deleted it? Are you staff now?
    Subscribers have some administration rights to threads they create:

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    Yeah moore never said other wise, he actually stated it was pc specd to ms's specs.

    All i can say if a gtx780 is per spec....wow.

    Some how i doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NextGenGamer2000 View Post
    Didn't they originally say it is running on dev kit? Its GTX700 series. X1 has GTX 560 at best equivalent.

    Not only that. These are saying ALL Xbox One games on PC that is not dev kit. Its a big implication.
    Pc's are dev kits.

    360 devkit was a apple g3 till 3 months before launch.

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    On the PS4 side of things, from twitter:

    Jonathan_Blow: P.S. It is not true as the article says that "all E3 demos run on hi-end PCs". The Witness was running on PS4 dev hardware, and it looked to me like all the other PS4 games were running on dev kits as well.

    artenvelope (sucker punch dev): @Jonathan_Blow Yup, we were definitely on a dev kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georges View Post
    Anyway, isn't the 780 GTX, like 2-3x more powerful than what's the Xbox one packing? EDIT: Actual Xbox One: 1.2 TFLOPS GPU NVidia 780 GTX: 4 TFLOPS GPU
    Yep here what was going on at MS E3 show floor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitey View Post
    On the PS4 side of things, from twitter: Jonathan_Blow: P.S. It is not true as the article says that "all E3 demos run on hi-end PCs". The Witness was running on PS4 dev hardware, and it looked to me like all the other PS4 games were running on dev kits as well. artenvelope (sucker punch dev): @Jonathan_Blow Yup, we were definitely on a dev kit.
    Good find.

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    This is what those demo booths looked like during the conference. There was a dummy XBone but the wires go down to the Windows 7 PC in the cabinet below. So, every "exclusive" demo means it is a PC game first, then a console exclusive after that. Funny how even MS didn't trust Windows 8 for these demo booths.
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    Smoke and mirrors, if you take that away you'll see Micrsoft has no legs, lol.
    This salmon is done, smoked to perfection.

    Unless the Wii U picks up this generation is 90% SONY's to do whatever the **** they like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    This is what those demo booths looked like during the conference. There was a dummy XBone but the wires go down to the Windows 7 PC in the cabinet below. So, every "exclusive" demo means it is a PC game first, then a console exclusive after that. Funny how even MS didn't trust Windows 8 for these demo booths.
    Dummy Xbone -_-. They went all the way with that lol

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    I figured it to be true when I saw that beautiful motion blur and especially after the 60fps talk. It's one thing to use more a bit more powerful hardware for E3, but to use a 780GTX??? 5 teraflops vs 1.2 teraflops? LOL

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    OK it makes sense they use dev kits which is basically a PC.

    But why an Nvidia card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitey View Post
    On the PS4 side of things, from twitter:

    Jonathan_Blow: P.S. It is not true as the article says that "all E3 demos run on hi-end PCs". The Witness was running on PS4 dev hardware, and it looked to me like all the other PS4 games were running on dev kits as well.

    artenvelope (sucker punch dev): @Jonathan_Blow Yup, we were definitely on a dev kit.
    Moore said no one has final gear form anyone yet, so its likely again a modified PC "dev kit".

    Although I do suspect Sonys have more mature version of dev kits out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    This is what those demo booths looked like during the conference. There was a dummy XBone but the wires go down to the Windows 7 PC in the cabinet below. So, every "exclusive" demo means it is a PC game first, then a console exclusive after that. Funny how even MS didn't trust Windows 8 for these demo booths.
    This is normal, this exactly what they did with the Apple G3's, and of course every game is a PC game they are all running x86 code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Moore said no one has final gear form anyone yet, so its likely again a modified PC "dev kit".

    Although I do suspect Sonys have more mature version of dev kits out.
    All of a sudden Peter Moore's words are absolute

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    This is normal, this exactly what they did with the Apple G3's, and of course every game is a PC game they are all running x86 code.
    The problem is this time, they didn't even bother with representative hardware, if it was running the Nvidia GTX. It means they took a high end PC and just changed the settings for playing the game like 2XAA rather than 16XAA, high quality textures rather than ultra high, and so on, to just make it look like it was running on representative hardware, not just video and audio settings. MS just got caught pulling apart their demo booths. No doubt, Sony did something similar, the PS4 was inside a glass wall at their demo booths and the real hardware was below it. But people are remarking on how incredible the demos were looking and it seems more likely that Sony was using more representative hardware and software. The big problem is a big exclusive they are pushing, Ryse, is really a PC game so it's only console exclusive. Sony is going to be running their system with a lot of their own software, especially multiple features beyond DX 11. The problem with Microsoft is they are saying the XBone is really just a PC, completely. The PS4 is still a video game console to Sony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Georges View Post


    What a mess.

    It was the last thing Microsoft needed.
    An hp branded machine!? Well it wasnt an envy, nor was it a bussiness machine, so they had it coming. Anyways this stuff happens.

    All a 780 means is thah the important components arent ancient once these machines launch. Devs will work their magic and squeeze every ounce of juice out of the consoles as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    This is normal, this exactly what they did with the Apple G3's, and of course every game is a PC game they are all running x86 code.
    Oh yes they did...and what happened to the final hardware.

    Seems like they're going down the same part...can't wait to see how these games they showed will look when they finally launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    All of a sudden Peter Moore's words are absolute

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    I thought he worded it quite well, he certainly didn't try and hide anything.
    Remember MS's first "Dev kit" that Superdae had?

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    It's sickening to see how far people go to dispel how great the xbox one is. They do have cosoles on the floor playing games go look at the videos i posted. Mynd is coorrect those are xbox one dev kits. Of course i should know i attebded an e3 show . The only gamed that had PCs are BF4 and TitanFalls brcause they were holding multi players.
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    If any of you wanna know this there are no ps4 consoles on the floor everything is dev kits.

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    If I have to jab at the dev kits, its:

    - Using Nvidia card instead of AMD. Why not AMD card?
    - Using Windows 7, which is funny considering Xbone was suppose to be more like Windows 8.

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