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    Banned Xbox One Users Lose All Of Their Games [Updated]

    Recently confirmed by @XboxSupport on twitter, if your account has been banned you will lose the license to any games attributed to that account.

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    If your account is banned, you also forfeit the licenses to any games that have licenses tied to it as listed in the ToU. ^AC

    — Xbox Support (@XboxSupport1) June 14, 2013
    This news comes as yet another blow to the perceived attack on gamers. Not everyone is banned fairly, so this could become a huge problem down the road.

    When asked about a hacked account, this was their response.

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    Ensure your account security features are enabled, and security proofs details are correct. ^ML
    — Xbox Support (@XboxSupport1)

    June 15, 2013
    We have reached out to make sure that this only applies to digital games and not your disc copies. If so then it is crisis averted.

    [update]
    Their response is to be expected, with no real confirmation one way or the other.
    @snickelsox We don’t have any specifics on that at this time. More info will be available in the coming months. ^AD

    — Xbox Support (@XboxSupport1) June 15, 2013
    What does this mean for Disc Games. One could argue that they should have a clear “no” on this if they intended to let banned players keep their disc licenses. But, they could have just not made up their minds yet. So we will wait and see and hope for the best but, given their recent track record, prepare for the worst.

    I also asked if Netflix and TV functionality would be available to banned players. They responded in another ambiguous way. ( I neglected to clarify if this applied to Xbox One or Xbox 360.)

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    Those features would not be available on the Xbox 360, as for the Xbox One we don’t have those details at this time. ^AD

    — Xbox Support (@XboxSupport1) June 15, 2013
    I have also reached out to Xbox officially, rather than their twitter support, for comment. We will update if/when we hear back from them.

    [update 2]
    There has been reference to the the Terms of Service that Xbox users have to agree to in order to use the service. While the current terms are specifically for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 andnot Xbox One one can infer a few of the possible guidelines that the Xbox One will use when it comes to your rights.

    Section 1.7 is the directed response which states:
    We may change the Services at any time, for any reason or no reason, and we may also cancel or suspend your ability to access the Services if you’re in breach of this Agreement. If we cancel your Services account or your credentials, your right to use the Services stops immediately, but you’re still required to pay all charges already incurred through that account.
    But reading a bit further down into article 1.12 we could see the way things could change. Games are considered more of a service now and unless you work within the confines of the Xbox One market place, your game could be considered unauthorized software.

    You can’t use unauthorized software or hardware to access the Services, nor can you modify an Authorized Device in any unauthorized way (e.g., through unauthorized repairs, unauthorized upgrades, or unauthorized downloads). You agree that we have the right to send data, applications or other content to any software or hardware that you are using to access the Services for the purpose of detecting an unauthorized modification and/or disabling the modified device.

    You must not attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further sublicense, distribute, or use for other purposes the Services, any game, application, or other content available or accessible through the Services, or any hardware associated with the Services or with an Authorized Device. If you do, we may cancel your account and your ability to access the Services, and pursue other legal remedies. We may take any legal action we deem appropriate against users who violate our systems or network security, this Agreement or any additional terms incorporated or referenced in it. Such users may also incur criminal or civil liability.
    At the moment the Terms of Service can only help speculate how the Xbox One will handle banned account who own games, bought either new or used. Nobody, outside of a few higher-ups at Microsoft, truly knows how this will all works yet. Let us hope thatthey can pull together a message quickly to address this potential problem.

    [update 3]

    Well that was quick. According to @XboxSupport1 the original tweet was “intended” for the Xbox 360, not Xbox One. While this would not be the first time Xbox Support said something in error, it would also not be the first time they revealed something before it was ready. I personally hope this was a simple mistake, but that leaves a burning question in my mind. What about all the other tweets?

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    There was some confusion here. That tweet was intended to refer to downloadable games on the Xbox 360 actually. ^AD
    — Xbox Support (@XboxSupport1) June 15, 2013
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    So instead of being bricked by RROD, your console gets bricked by just not connecting to Xbox Live. My, such an evolution.

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    The only thing that will save Microsoft is a wake up call or hackers.

    Hackers will need to fix what Microsoft got wrong with the system.
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    here's an idea...
    don't do something against the terms of use that would get you banned in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    here's an idea...
    don't do something against the terms of use that would get you banned in the first place.
    lmao... But that is the thing, anything in the terms and conditions can get you banned and even if you follow them down to a T
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    Seems like everyday you will almost hear something bad about Xbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    lmao... But that is the thing, anything in the terms and conditions can get you banned and even if you fully them down to a T
    Or if your account got hack, your console won't be able to play any games at all.

    http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-c...-app-20274817/

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    Does make me hold out hope that MS will do some sort of alternative for disc based games. I still think an offline verification for disc based games is easily doable and would completely fix all of their issues.

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    Don't do something to get banned then.

    Sadly it means all the scum that currently inhabit XBL will flock to PS now. Great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Don't do something to get banned then.

    Sadly it means all the scum that currently inhabit XBL will flock to PS now. Great
    I was thinking about that, well those hackers. I wonder with these systems being so close to PC architecture, how hackable these systems are going to be. It may well be why MS is being such $#@!s with this licensing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Don't do something to get banned then.

    Sadly it means all the scum that currently inhabit XBL will flock to PS now. Great
    If enough people make a complaint on one user they'll ban him if the complaints are the same! Heck MS ban people for buying legitimate games early from Mom n Pop stores and trying to play them on the 360 lol

    It's not about doing something wrong, sometimes innocent people get the $#@! end of the stick.

    Also PSN will come with a pay system so, people will have to think twice before doing stupid $#@!.
    Gaming on all platforms right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yungstar 2006 View Post
    here's an idea...
    don't do something against the terms of use that would get you banned in the first place.
    And the truth shall set you free. Hook up your Xbox, and play games. Pretty simple really, lol.

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    This is a great thing! We know Microsoft wouldn't ban several millions of players by accident, then take months to get it sorted out.




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    Same thing can happen on Steam of which I have been using for 9 years and never been banned. Its not hard to not get yourself banned you know.

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    This is great news for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    And the truth shall set you free. Hook up your Xbox, and play games. Pretty simple really, lol.
    the truth will out

    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Its not hard to not get yourself banned you know.
    surprising how many don't understand such a simple concept until they get banned.
    Last edited by Yungstar 2006; 06-15-2013 at 16:03.

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    i understand the concept of not getting banned, because i treat gaming like i did back in the 90's and that was gaming was gaming and the other stuff was not there
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    i understand the concept of not getting banned, because i treat gaming like i did back in the 90's and that was gaming was gaming and the other stuff was not there
    Correct. 90's gaming was much simpler. Plug (snes cartridges) n play. Mega cd etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj03 View Post
    Correct. 90's gaming was much simpler. Plug (snes cartridges) n play. Mega cd etc.

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    i agree friend, the simplest meant the greatest gaming experience in my oplnlon
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    I miss my Atari 5200 gaming days...it just had a feel to it that hasn't been replicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj03 View Post
    Correct. 90's gaming was much simpler. Plug (snes cartridges) n play. Mega cd etc.

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
    there was also a hightech cleaning system where needed to blow the cartridges to let them work again now you just get f*cked by (microsoft) if you want to play a offline game on a new console

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    Quote Originally Posted by A7MAD View Post
    The only thing that will save Microsoft is a wake up call or hackers.

    Hackers will need to fix what Microsoft got wrong with the system.
    Hackers had a field day with PS3 because they removed Linux support. Imagine what they will do because MS brought public enemy number one to them. If a similar situation as the psn fiasco happens with live can you imagine the backlash. How many times does it take people to realize that DRM can only be impacted negatively. We've seen so many instances where DRM has created a $#@! storm for companies that use them. Just ask EA.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanehead View Post
    Seems like everyday you will almost hear something bad about Xbone.
    Yeah, feeling that too.

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