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    Bleszinski slams Sonyís lack of used game blockers as a PR tactic


    “You’re all being played” Bleszinski slams Sony’s lack of used game blockers as a PR tactic

    Former Epic Games designer Cliff Bleszinski has been on something of a Twitter crusade lately, stating that the used games and AAA markets cannot co-exist while big budget games cost so much to make. Bleszinski has now suggested that Sony does have anti-used measures up its sleeve, and is using outrage over Microsoft’s Xbox One policies as a free PR tactic.
    Before venturing further, you can play catch-up on Bleszinski’s series of tweets regarding triple-a production and used games here.
    Now, the designer has suggested on Twitter that given the cost of blockbuster games, Sony simply must have a similar strategy to Microsoft’s in the works:


    Cliff Bleszinski ✔ @therealcliffyb

    You cannot have game and marketing budgets this high while also having used and rental games existing. The numbers do NOT work people.



    Cliff Bleszinski @therealcliffyb
    I'd bet Sony has some similar stuff up their sleeves they're just playing on the internet outrage for free PR. You're all being played!


    I also thought this one was pretty fun:

    Cliff Bleszinski @therealcliffyb
    Sony just bought us dinner.





    Over to you folks: is Sony playing us all for chumps or can they really afford to keep used games and still produce expensive triple-a blockbusters without issue?http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/17/your...s-a-pr-tactic/



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    Right, because gamers who partake in the second hand market don't use the money they save to purchase more games or get DLC for various titles.

    How is this hard to understand? I mean I'd buy into his argument if game companies were not largely doing ludicrously well with many series. How many times have sales records been repeatedly broken in the past generation? I get that the cost of creating games is going up, but at the same time now more than ever before it is easier for consumers to test and purchase these games. Over PSN, XBL or STEAM, try it second hand from a friend or get it used and then buy content for it\recommend it to HIS friends.

    There are many more vectors for good content to get into consumer hands now vs the past and its only getting more streamlined and efficient. Case in point, PS4 and XBox One's digital day 1 system for getting games and playing them even as they're installing.

    I mean not having to print the disc, fab the box and have it taking up retail space on a shelf- that saves cash.

    And how about the fact that the gaming market has exploded over the past few decades? More people are playing games than ever before. Period.


    And I'm supposed to buy into the idea that if we don't immediately squash the used game market, gaming is going to become terrible or just die out altogether because the poor mega-publishers and developers won't make a profit anymore. Right, $#@! off Cliff.

    Oh, and how about that burgeoning Indie market that didn't exist 10 years ago?

    $#@!stick.


    Edit: I know I'm swearing alot more than I used too.. Being a bit aggressive. This stuff kind of makes me angry yea, but more than that I'm jobless and have crushing student debt so I'm just NOT a happy person right now.

    Apologies..
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    Its obvious it was, we heard the kerfuffle everyone made when Jack announced the policy at the Sony conference.

    I have grown so used to Steam and Origin, buy the disc, install the game and never need the disc ever again so from then on download the games instead of finding the disc.

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    So Cliffy B has insight on Sony's financial overheads, forecasts, plans, and is privy to the meetings and strategies (both including green-lit initiatives as well as compromises)?

    If not, then he can redeem a free voucher from me for a *Pat on the head, scruff the hair* and a "Nice try, boyo".
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    Continuing to play used games shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
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    Cliffy pisses me off, why does he think he has so much power?... And really "I'd bet Sony has some similar stuff up their sleeves they're just playing on the internet outrage for free PR." Sony is a company, and yes they want to make maximum profit, but not pissing off your consumers is part of that profit...

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    these so called "negative" ps4 articles are funnier by the day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Exunionx View Post
    Cliffy pisses me off, why does he think he has so much power?... And really "I'd bet Sony has some similar stuff up their sleeves they're just playing on the internet outrage for free PR." Sony is a company, and yes they want to make maximum profit, but not pissing off your consumers is part of that profit...
    This part I don't get - why is Cliffy B always so mad at Sony?
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    Hmmm.... make a good game, you'll make a good profit. Done.




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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    This part I don't get - why is Cliffy B always so mad at Sony?
    I guess its because he has been making Gears of War, which is an xbox exclusive, I believe its a form of jealousy that the ps4 is getting a higher reputation than xbox one

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    Bleszinski's obvious agenda is obvious.

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    So salty, he probably is still locked in with the sinking ship MS has created.

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    Cliff B. clearly has no idea how to promote something. That guy is a damn tool.

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    I wasn't aware that Cliff B is still relevant?

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    Re: Bleszinski slams Sonyís lack of used game blockers as a PR tactic

    Well like Nintendo said, make a good game and people will buy it...I don't see many people waiting on used copies of the last of us to experience the game

    Having the option there is good but I rarely buy used except for shoddy games EA in particular

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    It seems like Cliff clearly state that companies who listen consumers are worst. Hope he shuts up and #dealwithit
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    lol B has been on a troll rampage recently. I think he's upset about not being important anymore.

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    I`ll look at it from a different perspective. If used games are killing the industry because of ever increasing budgets then the industries model is flawed and they need make some double As instead of triple As, you know, the battery that is cheap and reliable and used everywhere. Sorry Cliffy, your online pass hommies made me a used game 4 life kind of gamer now.

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    meh. A game designer that doesn't like the used games.

    If he doesn't like big budget games and the used market he can always go make Angry Birds 6 for smartphones and tablets. That or work more closely with the XB1 and see how that fares with gamers. Who knows, gamers might love it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serinous View Post
    I wasn't aware that Cliff B is still relevant?
    Hes not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    So salty, he probably is still locked in with the sinking ship MS has created.

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    Hmmm.... make a good game, you'll make a good profit. Done.
    Not as easy as that, Far too many good games this gen lost money/did not sell well.

    Then you have $#@! games like Final Fantasy & Res Evil printing money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    these so called "negative" ps4 articles are funnier by the day.
    I would hardly call this a negative article. It's just one's person's opinion on this whole thing. Lets keep this on a grown up level for once and discuss the actual topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    Not as easy as that, Far too many good games this gen lost money/did not sell well.

    Then you have $#@! games like Final Fantasy & Res Evil printing money.
    Because of used games?




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    Wow what a concept. And they say the economy in the us is bad too, Yet companies are generating millions and billions of dollars in profits. Go figure.




    [QUOTE=Vulgotha;6120287]Right, because gamers who partake in the second hand market don't use the money they save to purchase more games or get DLC for various titles.

    How is this hard to understand? I mean I'd buy into his argument if game companies were not largely doing ludicrously well with many series. How many times have sales records been repeatedly broken in the past generation? I get that the cost of creating games is going up, but at the same time now more than ever before it is easier for consumers to test and purchase these games. Over PSN, XBL or STEAM, try it second hand from a friend or get it used and then buy content for it\recommend it to HIS friends.

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