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    "It shows a lack of vision, planning and leadership to reveal the policy, double-down on it, say how great it is, then change it. That's all." ~Colin Moriarty

    Most accurate comment I've seen since news broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Don't we all.
    I would hope so. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    plus, if it's listening for xbox on/off then it has to listen for other words
    You can disable the listening for Xbox on/off too. You can completely shut it off so it's not listening or looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    plus, if it's listening for xbox on/off then it has to listen for other words
    No it doesn't. There is no basis for this statement. MS has stated since E3 and before that it only listens for Xbox ON when idle.

    No other words will do anything for it.
    LMAO

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    SO, Ixion, doesn't this news make the bet between you and F34R a little tricky now? lol

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    I love this period in the life-cycle. The breaking news, the arguments, the put downs, the FUD. LOVE IT!

    Gets all boring after 5 or so years into the gen, but it's great that threads like these are back for now.

    Better mention something to do with the thread in case I get knuckles rapped for 'off topic' or 'derailing' - So, I never minded the new sharing model to be honest but I really hated the idea of connecting every 24 hours. How blatant a DRM was that?! What really pissed me off was the time and money they've spent in developing those features instead of what gamers want. This goes some way to fixing that, but they still need to resolve shipping the Kinect with every box. I don't want to pay for peripherals I have absolutely no intention of ever using - especially when it hikes the price of the SKU

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    I wonder if any of their agreements with 3rd partys were to do with the Bone having the DRM to begin with.

    Anyway I'm definitely getting one now. When it's priced appropriately for what it is though. If they can get down to PS4 price then they'd be killing it

    No more 10 people family plan thing though

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVincent07 View Post
    They did exactly what we all wanted.

    I find it $#@!ing hillarious that all that $#@! was comulsory from the cloud, and in interviews it was impossible to have the Xbox One without a constant internet connection.

    This is great news... but i hope MS dont have a flip in policies later down the track.


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    If true, why in the heck would they announce all those restrictions at E3 in the first place, they knew right there an then nobody was going to be happy about it so why announce the restrictions, it was a bad move in the first place, just because PS4 gave all the right things about the PS4 that fans wanted, Microsoft now are showing that they need to get rid of all those restrictions few pointers why -

    - Unhappy/Angry fans
    - Less sales than PS4
    - Bad Business move
    - Bad press
    - Less Developers
    - Less Exclusives
    - Losing money (maybe a factor in future of XBO)

    They are only a few pointers that's why (if True) MS announced the removal of the restrictions to the XBO due not using the right state of mind, plus MS have ruined there own E3 an already so many 360 fans may have switched or likely to have pre-ordered a PS4 already or getting both. (would they drop the pre-order to go back with XBO) very unlikely!! but still the Kinect thing is still bugging fans will MS do away with that always on always watching whatever the doing with Kinect!

    MS you F**ked it up from Day1 now how can you turn around an say you will fix it by un-doing all those restrictions!! you still gonna redo it when you make XBTwo in 7 yrs time we all know how you operate you had some balls to go with restrictions but you really you left them else where.. you cant admit you had your ball taken out of the park by SONY :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by *goo View Post
    "It shows a lack of vision, planning and leadership to reveal the policy, double-down on it, say how great it is, then change it. That's all." ~Colin Moriarty

    Most accurate comment I've seen since news broke.
    You can always expect Colin to have accurate comments.

    On topic: Its good they changed it before launch or it could have been so much worse

    But, better to admit a massive, clear-as-day mistake with consumers (and competitive disadvantage) now then closer to the console's launch. - Colin
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    I wonder when a nuclear warhead goes off, does the frame rate of real life drop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    This is a giant leap for gamers everywhere. We came together and said "NO" and the industry -had- to step back and listen to us. Can you imagine the future of console gaming if MS had just blazed through with these features unchallenged? Horrifying precedent.
    Yes. a line was drawn in the sand. It is relieving to see that is actually possible in this industry. I was starting to wonder

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    This sucks. So now we have two consoles that are just the same as what we have now but stronger...

    What a $#@!ing boring generation this will be because of some whiners. More of the $#@!ing same for another 5 yrs, so exciting...

    You whiners had a choice of being stale with the PS4 but you all had to drag the X1 into the same artlessness.

    Meanwhile steam leaks that they will have game sharing while MS taketh away.
    Last edited by TrUe GaMeR; 06-19-2013 at 22:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    This sucks. So now we have two consoles that are just the same as what we have now but stronger...

    What a $#@!ing boring generation this will be because of some whiners. More of the $#@!ing same for another 5 yrs, so exciting...

    You whiners had a choice of being stale with the PS4 but you all had to drag the X1 into the same artlessness.

    Meanwhile steam leaks that they will have game sharing will MS taketh away.
    Holy debbie downer. Dude, it's a good thing, not a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *goo View Post
    "It shows a lack of vision, planning and leadership to reveal the policy, double-down on it, say how great it is, then change it. That's all." ~Colin Moriarty Most accurate comment I've seen since news broke.
    Good quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    This sucks. So now we have two consoles that are just the same as what we have now but stronger...

    What a $#@!ing boring generation this will be because of some whiners. More of the $#@!ing same for another 5 yrs, so exciting...

    You whiners had a choice of being stale with the PS4 but you all had to drag the X1 into the same artlessness.

    Meanwhile steam leaks that they will have game sharing will MS taketh away.
    The cloud implementation isn't going away.

    I imagine the "Better with Kinect"

    Will change to

    "Better with a connection"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuguy View Post
    No it doesn't. There is no basis for this statement. MS has stated since E3 and before that it only listens for Xbox ON when idle.

    No other words will do anything for it.
    I didn't say any other words would do anything. I said it's listening to everything despite being "turned off". If it's not listening then it won't know when you tell it to turn on.


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    I wonder what "Cliffy B" has to say in wake of this great news

    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    This sucks. So now we have two consoles that are just the same as what we have now but stronger...

    What a $#@!ing boring generation this will be because of some whiners. More of the $#@!ing same for another 5 yrs, so exciting...

    You whiners had a choice of being stale with the PS4 but you all had to drag the X1 into the same artlessness.

    Meanwhile steam leaks that they will have game sharing will MS taketh away.
    You dont always post, but when you do, I love it. A TrUe GaMeR

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    Nevermind.
    Last edited by mistercrow; 06-19-2013 at 22:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrUe GaMeR View Post
    This sucks. So now we have two consoles that are just the same as what we have now but stronger...

    What a $#@!ing boring generation this will be because of some whiners. More of the $#@!ing same for another 5 yrs, so exciting...

    You whiners had a choice of being stale with the PS4 but you all had to drag the X1 into the same artlessness.

    Meanwhile steam leaks that they will have game sharing while MS taketh away.
    #DealWithIt or don't buy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I didn't say any other words would do anything. I said it's listening to everything despite being "turned off". If it's not listening then it won't know when you tell it to turn on.
    And if the power isnt running, you PS4 wont know when you press the button.
    Not sure what your getting at Two, of course its listening for a command.
    That doesn't mean its not ignoring the rest of what you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Don't we all.
    We do. Glad to see the PS4 wasn't packaged with a camera that barely anyone would use. I'll probably pick that camera up later down the line...ya know...options.


    I don't really need a water cooler/remote control as of right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    I didn't say any other words would do anything. I said it's listening to everything despite being "turned off". If it's not listening then it won't know when you tell it to turn on.
    Yeah...Kinect is always listening to your voice, it only reacts to "Xbox" commands. A bit creepy with the whole PRISM thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Yeah...Kinect is always listening to your voice, it only reacts to "Xbox" commands. A bit creepy with the whole PRISM thing.
    But if you don't have an internet connection who is it going to tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    The cloud is still there, family sharing is gone if you read the article.
    Seemed to have missed that in the article, though read it again and was hardly clear on it. There's a new article on Kotaku though that says it.

    I'm kind of sad to see this DRM stuff gone. I now get to read nothing but fanboy talk (from both sides) on gaming websites. And let's not forget even more "the Kinect is listening" talk. Oh the joy.

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    Well, at least Mark Whitten acted like the family share plan could still come back.
    He said it wouldn't be available at launch, maybe they'll figure a way to offer it to DD costumers.

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