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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    More the same isn't bad at all. If they had to institute drm to make it different, then they need some freakin' help lol.

    All the stuff they had ready two days ago, can certainly still be done without the mandatory drm, but with drm. We posted about that already. It's not a hard thing to do.
    I don't think we've heard the last of this yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ToonAssassin View Post
    So let me get this straight, because ms made a huge backstep on their evil, greedy, controlling plans, it makes them no longer evil, greedy, and controlling? I dont effing think so lol. Im not so easily won over. Ill stick with the better value, less jack of all trades and master of none, and less gimmicky option from Sony thank you mr Microsoft
    And to those that changed your mind based on this backstep, remember that they only did it because they had to, it was nothing to do with customer care.

    But I hope u still enjoy what u buy either way.
    Jackpot. I would've been fine with MS's attitude lately, treating gamers as just dumb consumers. Sheep if you will. This move though, as good as it is for the industry just goes on to show you how much bull$#@! can spout out of a single company. "Oh, we won't change a thing. We don't care about Sony. Digital is the future and the cloud is infinite power over 9000, blah, blah". 2 weeks later, MS steps down and gives up their believability and integrity.

    Maybe they were right in the first place by treating gamers like sheep? Many are already forgetting how they were treating gamers a few days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquanox View Post
    OMG Region Free as well!

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    By doing one thing what their competitor did day one, I don't think so.
    This is a response to low pre-orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I don't think we've heard the last of this yet.



    you the man, Sith....lol
    Oh I know for sure. lol There will still be a lot of things to wonder about until the system actually launches, and then after that we'll still wonder about features and restrictions lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    Not true. The prices are different.
    That 100 dollar price difference will be alot of peoples deciding factor during xmas shopping.

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    Well i read on another site MS said the Xbox ONE will need a 'day one Patch' to stop all that DRM rubbish??? So if it can be 'Patched out' then it can be 'Patched in' whenever MicroSoft want to? & knowing MS they 'WILL DO IT' once they have got people to buy it!!! LoL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorzilla View Post
    Jackpot. I would've been fine with MS's attitude lately, treating gamers as just dumb consumers. Sheep if you will. This move though, as good as it is for the industry just goes on to show you how much bull$#@! can spout out of a single company. "Oh, we won't change a thing. We don't care about Sony. Digital is the future and the cloud is infinite power over 9000, blah, blah". 2 weeks later, MS steps down and gives up their believability and integrity.

    Maybe they were right in the first place by treating gamers like sheep? Many are already forgetting how they were treating gamers a few days ago.
    Because you know for a fact that sony didn't have anything like this planned but backed off once MS revealed the X1 and started to receive backlash about their policies?

    Also, are you going to ignore everything sony did with the PS3 that was not in the interest of gamers/consumers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorzilla View Post
    Jackpot. I would've been fine with MS's attitude lately, treating gamers as just dumb consumers. Sheep if you will. This move though, as good as it is for the industry just goes on to show you how much bull$#@! can spout out of a single company. "Oh, we won't change a thing. We don't care about Sony. Digital is the future and the cloud is infinite power over 9000, blah, blah". 2 weeks later, MS steps down and gives up their believability and integrity. Maybe they were right in the first place by treating gamers like sheep? Many are already forgetting how they were treating gamers a few days ago.
    True dat.

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    GOOD MS listened to the gamers, i still wont buy xbone because of kincet congrats xbone gamers

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextgen3 View Post
    Well i read on another site MS said the Xbox ONE will need a 'day one Patch' to stop all that DRM rubbish??? So if it can be 'Patched out' then it can be 'Patched in' whenever MicroSoft want to? & knowing MS they 'WILL DO IT' once they have got people to buy it!!! LoL
    I wouldn't doubt it. "policies are subject to change."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextgen3 View Post
    Well i read on another site MS said the Xbox ONE will need a 'day one Patch' to stop all that DRM rubbish??? So if it can be 'Patched out' then it can be 'Patched in' whenever MicroSoft want to? & knowing MS they 'WILL DO IT' once they have got people to buy it!!! LoL
    I don't think they will go that far. There is nothing stopping people from selling or trading in the console if they did that. They won't go back on the DRM.

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    Tin hat time.

    So if they can pull a 180 on the policies now, surely they can revert them whenever they want? Making you agree the ToS with a click otherwise your box is useless. They could phase it in or just throw all the old policies in at once? They claimed it was better for the console at the time.

    Also they invested heavily into the new server farms, what's happening with that? They going to cut their loses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Because you know for a fact that sony didn't have anything like this planned but backed off once MS revealed the X1 and started to receive backlash about their policies?

    Also, are you going to ignore everything sony did with the PS3 that was not in the interest of gamers/consumers?
    Question. Do you know for a fact that sony did have such plans? no you didn't. Did the whole world know for a fact that ms planned to use these methods of fleecing their loyal customers? yes we did. Fact.that is the difference.
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    I think both consoles will sell out this xMas.

    Afterwards, MS can consider a different pricing approach.

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    An excellent decision. Gamers win in the end! Their online policies were stupid beyond belief.







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    Quote Originally Posted by ToonAssassin View Post
    Question. Do you know for a fact that sony did have such plans? no you didn't. Did the whole world know for a fact that ms planned to use these methods of fleecing their loyal customers? yes we did. Fact.that is the difference.
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    Awesome! Gamers win today! Only thing left is the mandatory spy camera.

    Hell, if we gamers came together like this more often, we could get rid of DLC (Have complete games again instead of pieces) and paying to play online.

    We could make the market as competitive as possible. Let them fight for our hard earned money. They don't dictate to us what direction to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToonAssassin View Post
    Question. Do you know for a fact that sony did have such plans? no you didn't. Did the whole world know for a fact that ms planned to use these methods of fleecing their loyal customers? yes we did. Fact.that is the difference.
    It's possible that they did have something similar but they held off to see the reaction MS would get, which was smart. Just like they knew they were gonna start charging for online multi-player but snuck it in while MS was getting all the bad press. Good move Sony....lol

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    This only shows me the confidence MS had in their product, this is actually embarrassing.

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    This is an impressive and welcomed turnaround from Microsoft. The DRM restrictions was easily the biggest weakness of the system. Though I personally remain unconvinced in buying one over the still better PS4. I'm also somewhat doubtful of how honest and good ms is being here -- we may still see something restrictive from them in some way. they've proven their policies can change.

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    I wouldn't say Sony is a consumer facing business at all. They just made a smarter business decision, because they want all the money they can get. They know that pulling an Xbox One would have lost them a ton of money.

    Common sense business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    I wouldn't doubt it. "policies are subject to change."
    True, yet scary. There is a reason Sony made a patent for this as well. They can act on their patent at the drop of a dime. Watch out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    Awesome! Gamers win today! Only thing left is the mandatory spy camera.

    Hell, if we gamers came together like this more often, we could get rid of DLC (Have complete games again instead of pieces) and paying to play online.

    We could make the market as competitive as possible. Let them fight for our hard earned money. They don't dictate to us what direction to go.

    Consumers rule!
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    Amazing news, Will defo pick one up once it hits £349

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