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    I'm sure it's not $100 more due to that...it's probably $150 more due to it. At least.

    Kinect 1.0 was $150.

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    Even without Kinect I bet SONY can build cheaper hardware and in general Cerney-God made the architecture cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Even without Kinect I bet SONY can build cheaper hardware and in general Cerney-God made the architecture cheaper.
    It should be cheaper. It has less technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It should be cheaper. It has less technology.
    I love me some cheap technology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It should be cheaper. It has less technology.
    But with the Xbox One it has technology that many people don't want

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    HDMI in is a complete waste So is Kinect. Simple fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It should be cheaper. It doesn't have an unwanted peripheral being force on its customers.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    HDMI in is a complete waste So is Kinect. Simple fact.
    Why is HDMI in a complete waste?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Yup. Microsoft gave the consumer an option to have HD-DVD. Microsoft gave the consumer an option to have an HDD. Microsoft gave the consumer an option to have WIFI. Those were all seen as bad things by the gamers that preferred the PS3, and the 360 was $200 less, and those people were saying it should have all been included. Now they include the HDD, they include the WIFI, they include the HD optical drive and they include their camera.

    So options...or no options....it's like one or the other...just can't win.
    Why are you playing the MS apologist? You're really gonna compare wifi, harddrive and bluray - to kinect? The 360 peripheral that, last time I checked, launched at a price of over $100?

    Can you make a case - why gamers NEED kinect? Sorry, just have to call you out on that BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It should be cheaper. It has less technology.
    and it has faster RAM as well..that costs more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flumbooze View Post
    Why is HDMI in a complete waste?
    Going off early builds it runs at 5 fps in snap mode. Secondly if I am watching TV I don't want to have $#@! pop up every 5s to play a game. If I am gaming i'll game, if i am watching TV leave me alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2D View Post
    Why are you playing the MS apologist? You're really gonna compare wifi, harddrive and bluray - to kinect? The 360 peripheral that, last time I checked, launched at a price of over $100?

    Can you make a case - why gamers NEED kinect? Sorry, just have to call you out on that BS.
    Not to mention the obvious here. This is psu. A playstation oriented forum not neogaf or all things gaming. There is going to b a lot of bias here.

    I don't understand why the xbox preference guys are even here. Not saying he is, we have some that enjoy anything gaming without bias.
    We also have some that claim to be that but are here just to promote the xbox brand. We do have an xbox section and I stay out of there because it don't interest me. But some derail all the ps threads with xbox this and that and it gets off topic real fast.

    Its like going to McDonald's every day and constantly $#@!ing to all the customers how much better
    Burger king is. Eventually someones going to say "go to burger king then". Just makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Not to mention the obvious here. This is psu. A playstation oriented forum not neogaf or all things gaming. There is going to b a lot of bias here.

    I don't understand why the xbox preference guys are even here. Not saying he is, we have some that enjoy anything gaming without bias.
    We also have some that claim to be that but are here just to promote the xbox brand. We do have an xbox section and I stay out of there because it don't interest me. But some derail all the ps threads with xbox this and that and it gets off topic real fast.

    Its like going to McDonald's every day and constantly $#@!ing to all the customers how much better
    Burger king is. Eventually someones going to say "go to burger king then". Just makes sense.
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    i answered this a few days ago and the post got deleted

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Not to mention the obvious here. This is psu. A playstation oriented forum not neogaf or all things gaming. There is going to b a lot of bias here. I don't understand why the xbox preference guys are even here. Not saying he is, we have some that enjoy anything gaming without bias. We also have some that claim to be that but are here just to promote the xbox brand. We do have an xbox section and I stay out of there because it don't interest me. But some derail all the ps threads with xbox this and that and it gets off topic real fast. Its like going to McDonald's every day and constantly $#@!ing to all the customers how much better Burger king is. Eventually someones going to say "go to burger king then". Just makes sense. Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
    Totally agree. We do have some members here that spend an awful lot of time and energy here trying to convince us that the Xbox brand is better. They must have taken a wrong turn somewhere in their search for an Xbox fansite. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Going off early builds it runs at 5 fps in snap mode. Secondly if I am watching TV I don't want to have $#@! pop up every 5s to play a game. If I am gaming i'll game, if i am watching TV leave me alone!
    Wait, what? What does HDMI in hvae to do with pop ups and FPS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Not to mention the obvious here. This is psu. A playstation oriented forum not neogaf or all things gaming. There is going to b a lot of bias here.

    I don't understand why the xbox preference guys are even here. Not saying he is, we have some that enjoy anything gaming without bias.
    We also have some that claim to be that but are here just to promote the xbox brand. We do have an xbox section and I stay out of there because it don't interest me. But some derail all the ps threads with xbox this and that and it gets off topic real fast.

    Its like going to McDonald's every day and constantly $#@!ing to all the customers how much better
    Burger king is. Eventually someones going to say "go to burger king then". Just makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    less powerful? Iv'e still seen no proof of that. PS3 launched at $600 and had even less technology and a subpar lineup of games.
    Yes it has a subpar gpu with only 12 compute units. Based on compute units only its between a radeon hd 7790 and a hd 7770. The ps4 gpu is between a 7850 and 7870 which is a major upgrade in pc graphic terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisw26308 View Post
    Not to mention the obvious here. This is psu. A playstation oriented forum not neogaf or all things gaming. There is going to b a lot of bias here.

    I don't understand why the xbox preference guys are even here. Not saying he is, we have some that enjoy anything gaming without bias.
    We also have some that claim to be that but are here just to promote the xbox brand. We do have an xbox section and I stay out of there because it don't interest me. But some derail all the ps threads with xbox this and that and it gets off topic real fast.

    Its like going to McDonald's every day and constantly $#@!ing to all the customers how much better
    Burger king is. Eventually someones going to say "go to burger king then". Just makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    i answered this a few days ago and the post got deleted
    I did the exact same thing and my post was deleted. It is blatantly obvious we have a lot of severe Xbox fans on staff, and that is not right. Way to keep a PS community in tact, run it by Xbox fans. I am sure this post will be deleted without reason as well.

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    People are going to prefer what they already wanted. If you were a PS fan last gen chances are you want a PS4.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    People are going to prefer what they already wanted. If you were a PS fan last gen chances are you want a PS4.
    exactly that's why you have to take the next gen discussion with a grain of salt. I try to be fair with both but at the end of the day all I've owned is playstation so I am biased


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    Quote Originally Posted by justintheman87 View Post
    I did the exact same thing and my post was deleted. It is blatantly obvious we have a lot of severe Xbox fans on staff, and that is not right. Way to keep a PS community in tact, run it by Xbox fans. I am sure this post will be deleted without reason as well.
    hahahahahahahahah aint that some $#@!. I have yet to have a problem seeing as I just now got to posting in the forums but if it's run by Xbox's peeps fml


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    I understand everyone has preference and I am fine with that. However when you are an active member on a PS forum and are openly pro-Xbox I sometimes question your reasoning for being here. Not too mention the questions that arise when these individuals are given staff positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justintheman87 View Post
    I understand everyone has preference and I am fine with that. However when you are an active member on a PS forum and are openly pro-Xbox I sometimes question your reasoning for being here. Not too mention the questions that arise when these individuals are given staff positions.
    Yea I don't see a reason for a proxbox person to be at PLAYSTATION universe either but to each their own I guess. Your statement does raise an eyebrow, I'm assuming that it's true? a proxbox member got a staff position?


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    Quote Originally Posted by justintheman87 View Post
    I did the exact same thing and my post was deleted. It is blatantly obvious we have a lot of severe Xbox fans on staff, and that is not right. Way to keep a PS community in tact, run it by Xbox fans. I am sure this post will be deleted without reason as well.
    At this rate, the thread will get locked. I personally feel like there should be a balance here, it triggers discussion and debates when it comes to gaming. If there are some members who either annoy me or I disagree completely with, the ignore feature is there (Which I've only used on one person ever). Oh man how I wish I could ignore Soldier 95B sometimes though.







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