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    Forza 5 Anti-Aliasing Still An Issue Unless Developing At 4k, Says Turn 10

    http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/28/forz...-says-turn-10/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqZ4UtBhF0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    I think we can forgive minor jaggies if the game runs with fidelity already shown with Forza 5.

    Forza 5 has had a bit of spit polish over Forza 4 and according to Turn 10′s Dan Greenawalt, the next-gen title run swimmingly on your big TV, but don’t expect anti-aliasing issues to be non-existent unless you are running 4K.




    Speaking with VG247′s Sam Clay at E3, Greenawalt said while some things have changed technically between the two iterations of the racer, some players may still experience a bit of an issue with anti-aliasing – but mainly when it comes to things such as louvers. And there’s a reason why this happens, according to Greenawalt.

    “Yes, it’s changed with Foza 5 but the biggest [cause] is the cars, especially the ones with louvers on the back,” he said. “When you have a really bright sky it’s going to create a high contrast which makes lines look jagged. So, what we had with Froza 4, was a game that was running at 720p and now with Forza 5 we have 1080p and 60fps and there’s a lot of post processing going on as well.

    “So, is that going to solve the jaggy line issue entirely? I think it will still be there in the louvers because it would look that way even with a digital camera. While we’ve taken big leaps and bounds with tech, the idea of completely eliminating the jagged lines technically, it would require a 4K resolution or something like that.”

    Greenawalt also explained the game’s tech to Sam a bit, and you can hear more about it through the video posted earlier.
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    I love my Forza as much as the next guy...but not enough to buy a 4K TV to eliminate that issue. I think I can deal with that.

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    I don't have any real problems with 1080p, but once 4k TVs are cheap enough, I'll get a good PC for doing 4k.

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    I doubt the jaggies will be an issue with choosing my racing line.




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    So the game will support 4K resolution? i thought we weren't going to get 4K?

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    We got 4k, but we aint got the TV.

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    The question is will Forza 5 have more jaggies than Forza 4?


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    nvm, i just read the article lol. they're saying that it would "require" a 4K game/tv to eliminate that. i was going to say, why would you even make a 4k at this point.

    i'd love it if games were going to be that much but 1080p isn't bad.

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    ja ja already being mentioned this early? well its a launch title

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    Quote Originally Posted by MjW View Post
    The question is will Forza 5 have more jaggies than Forza 4? On the move with Tapatalk
    Could be. AA might be yet another graphical sacrifice to get that 60fps. Forza 5 already uses baked lighting. Propably for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MjW View Post
    The question is will Forza 5 have more jaggies than Forza 4?


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    Less noticabe because they will be smaller. 1080p need less anti aliasing than 720p because there is more pixels that are also smaller.

    Check the black wires power lines for obvious jaggies.


    1080p





    720p


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    ^This. the jaggies this generation will go down without ever doing a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Could be. AA might be yet another graphical sacrifice to get that 60fps.
    Most likely, yup. That has been a problem for GT and Forza. More time is spent on physics and presentation, and less time on adjusting for the anti-aliasing.

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    .....Of course. I rarely use AA on my PC games unless its an old game like Quake or COD Half life 2 or some other game that isnt demanding.

    Its a very worth while sacrifice I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Most likely, yup. That has been a problem for GT and Forza. More time is spent on physics and presentation, and less time on adjusting for the anti-aliasing.
    Lol does mentioning gt (mind you, in a forza specific thread) make you feel a whole lot better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol does mentioning gt (mind you, in a forza specific thread) make you feel a whole lot better? Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
    lol +rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Lol does mentioning gt (mind you, in a forza specific thread) make you feel a whole lot better?

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    No. Just pointing out that they have reasons for lack of AA on these consoles. It's common. I could add Race Pro 07 to that list as well, which gave up on AA for physics. Would that have made you feel a little better?

    But we are glad you found a way to make light of it. Keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    No. Just pointing out that they have reasons for lack of AA on these consoles. It's common. I could add Race Pro 07 to that list as well, which gave up on AA for physics. Would that have made you feel a little better?

    But we are glad you found a way to make light of it. Keep up the good work
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    Cannot wait til im able purchase a 55" 4k OLED TV...Sadly most likely another 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    Cannot wait til im able purchase a 55" 4k OLED TV...Sadly most likely another 5 years.
    My next tv will be 70+" at least. I won't settle for the 55" anymore.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    My next tv will be 70+" at least. I won't settle for the 55" anymore.
    How many thousands of dollars would these (70" OLEDs) go for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    My next tv will be 70+" at least. I won't settle for the 55" anymore.
    70" would be awesome, Doubt my bank manager would allow it though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    My next tv will be 70+" at least. I won't settle for the 55" anymore.
    LOL mine is 37 biggest TV I ever owned.

    1080p at 70 inch massive jaggies.

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    With my budget I would only be able to afford a plasma at that size. To bad they're shutting them down because the returns (for manufacturers) are diminishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    My next tv will be 70+" at least. I won't settle for the 55" anymore.
    Me too! Tired of my 46" and it's not even a year old.

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