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    Lets face it. If specs and not games mattered, the Playstation 2 would be one of worst consoles to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I have no reason not to believe it.
    Its Microsoft. That's enough reason to believe things can go either way in my book. I hope I'm wrong.




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    Roll on Battlefield 4

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    What I don't get is why everyone is 'lol'ing at Microsoft for saying this about hardware. Microsoft is supposed to find a way to promote their product over the competition's. If they don't have the more powerful hardware, then why have to find something to brag about their console and convince you that the horsepower the Sony console has is not as meaningful to you as what the Xbox One has to offer, and since Sony has the more powerful hardware, they are allowed to brag about how powerful hardware IS in fact meaningful over other things. Corporations are supposed to be their own best corporate cheerleaders.

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    I'm just glad both consoles have similar architecture; maybe multiplats won't suck on Sony's new console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    Roll on Battlefield 4
    What's a cross gen title going to validate?

    Sure bring on bf4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    But when they are as close as they are, it's doesn't matter.
    Um.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    What's a cross gen title going to validate?

    Sure bring on bf4

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    A false sense of hope that the xbone is equal or stronger than the ps4.

    Unlike the ___ folks, we know that it's going to be the 2nd and 3rd wave of titles that flex the muscle of these consoles. I'm not expecting to see it from 3rd party but 1st party will show it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    Lets face it. If specs and not games mattered, the Playstation 2 would be one of worst consoles to date.
    yea except PS2 dominated in games.

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    People love talking about the strongest console never wins

    Then the ps4 ends up being the strongest and cheapest, and now we hear all these other lame ass excuses from diehard xbox fans about "games" when "games" haven't been important to them the last 4 years(based off the comments on this forum when comparing the xbox360 big budget output to the ps3 big budget output of game).

    This gonna be a gud generation coming up. MS has already started out with a kick to their nuts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    People love talking about the strongest console never wins

    Then the ps4 ends up being the strongest and cheapest, and now we hear all these other lame ass excuses from diehard xbox fans about "games" when "games" haven't been important to them the last 4 years(based off the comments on this forum when comparing the xbox360 big budget output to the ps3 big budget output of game).

    This gonna be a gud generation coming up. MS has already started out with a kick to their nuts.
    No one here is saying that. Only that the strength of the console does not play a role in whether the console wins or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    when "games" haven't been important to them the last 4 years
    lol yea it was all about the "shareholders" then

    and that, "exclusives" don't matter lol.

    and i was like, more games don't matter!? It's like a circus!

    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    No one here is saying that. Only that the strength of the console does not play a role in whether the console wins or not.
    No one thing does anyway. Price is a big factor. Services are a big factor. Reliability. There are plenty of things that are needed. but yes, power is a factor. That's why no one wants a Wii U right now. No hardcore anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    What's a cross gen title going to validate?

    Sure bring on bf4

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    It will be the earliest indication on the difference of the consoles. Graphics, Framerate, Resolution will be getting scrutinized big time. If one is far better than the other it will show in a game like Battlefield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw3d Genius View Post
    It will be the earliest indication on the difference of the consoles. Graphics, Framerate, Resolution will be getting scrutinized big time.
    I agree with that but I'd be very surprised if the Xbox One did not perform on par. Actually I'd be surprised if it completely is as good as the PS4 version, that would mean that we definitely underestimated the One. There should be a slight difference. Just like the PC version will be slightly superior.

    The game really shouldn't be taking up much RAM though.

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    Microsoft execs say stupid things all the time. Remember when they said they are going to......it feels wrong typing this - that they going to kill........BAHAHAHAHAHAHA......that they are going to kill sony at e3.......HAHAHAAA.....

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    Coming from the same company...better yet here is our favorite man major nelson breaking it down
    http://majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/

    All of a sudden it's not cool to talk about specs? Oh and then he goes on to mention the cloud? Lol Talk about meaningless (5 billion transistors, 300,000 servers and the almighty infinite power of the cloud), ok ms what ever you say.

    One more thing



    And now it's not cool? Is not like Sony is making a chart

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    Meaningless when you don't have the edge. Convenient right? I can't help but believe if MS had this edge they would be shoving it down our throats. Just like the cloud.




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    Concrete specs are meaningless but let's talk about that theoretical cloud power or the oh $#@! our esram all of a sudden got a power bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    A false sense of hope that the xbone is equal or stronger than the ps4. Unlike the ___ folks, we know that it's going to be the 2nd and 3rd wave of titles that flex the muscle of these consoles. I'm not expecting to see it from 3rd party but 1st party will show it.
    Just like this gen. It was the first party that really showed what the PS3 could do. It will be the first party that shows what PS4 can do next gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Meaningless when you don't have the edge. Convenient right? I can't help but believe if MS had this edge they would be shoving it down our throats. Just like the cloud.
    Definitley. Its just MS PR damage control aimed at the gullible and the hardcore Xbox fans who have been praying for a miracle. lol MS just keeps trying to dig themselves out of this PR nightmare but to no avail.

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    I would still like to know what they are offering other than kinect that would justify the extra $100. Saying that graphics power is meaningless only tends to show that their system isn't more powerful and doesn't justify the extra cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by fLiPdAtwAy View Post
    I would still like to know what they are offering other than kinect that would justify the extra $100. Saying that graphics power is meaningless only tends to show that their system isn't more powerful and doesn't justify the extra cash
    That's not what he said.

    "The problem is that Sony decided to go out and publish a bunch of numbers, which are in some ways meaningless," he told us. "Because this isn't like 1990, when it was 16-bit versus 32-bit.

    "As a matter of fact," he continued, "they actually go out and they talk about how proud they are about their off-the-shelf parts. Our guys'll say, we touched every single component in the box and everything there is tweaked for optimum performance."

    "For me, I'd rather not even have the conversation, because it's not going to matter," Penello went on. "The box is going to be awesome. The games are going to be awesome. I heard this exact same argument last generation and it's a pointless argument, because people are debating things which they don't know about. They're not [head silicon engineer] Nick Baker or [corporate vice president of IEB hardware Todd Holmdahl], and I'm not [lead PS4 architect] Mark Cerny, so why are we having this discussion?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    That's not what he said.
    Yes technical specs are what he is talking about. I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    Concrete specs are meaningless but let's talk about that theoretical cloud power or the oh $#@! our esram all of a sudden got a power bump

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    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
    lol yea, are you the same person that said this about the console life cycle. They said the same $#@!. and you know what I said? I said, no mofos! History just means that if the circumstances were similar, then this may happen. hell no it ain't the same!
    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    That's not what he said.
    I can't believe you'd quote that newb. Again, he's assuming it's the same $#@!, it's not! Come on bro.

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