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    Xbox Exec: Comparing Console Specs Is 'Meaningless'

    Xbox executive Albert Penello says flaunting hardware specs is "in some ways meaningless." Speaking to OXM about Sony's hardware reveal, Penello says "The problem is that Sony decided to go and and publish a bunch of numbers," which isn't why customers buy new consoles.

    Players want "to play great games and have great experiences. I feel like our games and experiences are going to be every bit as good, if not better, technically."

    Penello says of Sony, "As a matter of fact, they actually go out and they talk about how proud they are about their off-the-shelf parts," The Microsoft senior director says. Penello proceeds to say, "Our guys'll say, we touched every single component in the box and everything there is tweaked for optimum performance."

    For Penello, the conversation about which box has better technical guts isn't "going to matter" because, as it was in the previous generation, "it's a pointless argument because people are debating things which they don't know about."
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    So this guy is basically saying gamers are ignorant and that we don't care what's inside the box? I don't know where he's been living lately but numbers do matter when it comes to buying new consoles.

    And how can they have better gaming experiences technically with a slightly less powerful console? I don't doubt they will deliver great games, but isn't he saying is meaningless to compare yet he claims games will be better technically on X1 (which we already know it's not likely to happen because of the specs).

    Also how does touching every single component help? lol I mean as much as they may tweak their DDR3 RAM it isn't magically going to equal or surpass GDDR5.

    What are your thoughts?


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    Wait until Sony brings out the big guns

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    He speaks the truth. People don't care about specs in the end. It's all about delivering great games.

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    Well tbh developers will always develop for the lowest common denominator, so it doesn't make that much of a difference in terms of multiplats, but we should see some different in first party games. Having said that, The Division looks better than anything Sony is bringing.

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    I can't wait for the Division!!!

    Also, specs aren't that important. Games and features are. Flaunt those please.




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    Just more MS PR talk.

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    Yup, specs are the least of my concern. We already know they are close. What IS important is the GAMES and the FUN. I want more!!! Same with last gen....it was all about the great games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Well tbh developers will always develop for the lowest common denominator, so it doesn't make that much of a difference in terms of multiplats, but we should see some different in first party games. Having said that, The Division looks better than anything Sony is bringing.
    Multiplat games did not take advantage of the Cell because of its insane complexity, not because of the game being available on another console with less visual prowess. Game engines and the game visuals are always designed with the lead platform in mind and then ported to other consoles; whether the other platforms are weaker or stronger is never a factor in the results on the lead platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Well tbh developers will always develop for the lowest common denominator, so it doesn't make that much of a difference in terms of multiplats, but we should see some different in first party games. Having said that, The Division looks better than anything Sony is bringing.
    In the past this was very true, but now that both system will use the x86 architecture I am hoping this generation will be different. Hopefully they will design based on the best system and then tweak it downward for the slower system.

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    Penello proceeds to say, "Our guys'll say, we touched every single component in the box and everything there is tweaked for optimum performance."

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    Sony has Naughty Dog enough said

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    Eh.. They don't want to talk about it because they know they don't have the edge. If they thought they had a performance advantage, they'd be absolutely touting it.

    Same with Sony. With PS3 they refused to publish any real specs for RSX- because it was inferior to Xenos in 360.

    I mean yes, many (most) gamers don't know much about specs but I think that a good many of them do care what is more powerful. Especially for what they're paying.

    And Xbone is $100 more expensive and dimensionally bigger. I think Xbox fans would be pleased to know that their box is more robust on a technical level.


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    For Penello, the conversation about which box has better technical guts isn't "going to matter" because, as it was in the previous generation, "it's a pointless argument because people are debating things which they don't know about."

    As it was in the previous generation. what a $#@!ing dumb newb. lol yea no it is nothing like the previous generation.

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    I think for anyone outside of internet gaming forums (aka Joe and Jane Smith), specs don't matter. They won't be going to DF for side by side analysis or anything like that. It's only the enthusiasts who care.

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    average joe looks at what looks good to them. they don't care about the rest. that and the price and how easy it is for them to use the console etc. i feel that they're also slower in catching on to newer trends. it's the hardcore that start it.

    like my friend still thinks ps4 won't have games because of ps3's launch lol.

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    Do you guys really not care about the specs at all? Then you wouldn't mind getting all those great upcoming games on the current gen consoles with the current graphics then? I mean if games like Watch Dogs and some more Sony exclusives will still be available for PS3, why bother with PS4?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Eh.. They don't want to talk about it because they know they don't have the edge. If they thought they had a performance advantage, they'd be absolutely touting it.

    Same with Sony. With PS3 they refused to publish any real specs for RSX- because it was inferior to Xenos in 360.

    I mean yes, many (most) gamers don't know much about specs but I think that a good many of them do care what is more powerful. Especially for what they're paying.

    And Xbone is $100 more expensive and dimensionally bigger. I think Xbox fans would be pleased to know that their box is more robust on a technical level.
    Exactly.

    If they lose America, they're as good as beat when it comes to competing with Sony.


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    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    Do you guys really not care about the specs at all? Then you wouldn't mind getting all those great upcoming games on the current gen consoles with the current graphics then? I mean if games like Watch Dogs and some more Sony exclusives will still be available for PS3, why bother with PS4?
    i can somewhat understand. One is still next-gen and not everyone cares about the bells and whistles...or we'd have a PC...but then again, we have the games we like on consoles...thus why people still would stick with the One as they want the games it has or will likely have.

    i can see those people not caring.

    i'm just happy i won't be stuck with a technically inferior console this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    Do you guys really not care about the specs at all? Then you wouldn't mind getting all those great upcoming games on the current gen consoles with the current graphics then? I mean if games like Watch Dogs and some more Sony exclusives will still be available for PS3, why bother with PS4?
    Of course specs matter when moving to a new generation. But when they are as close as they are, it's doesn't matter. Now, had the PS4 come out with specs like the Wii U, and you put that up next to the X1, then it's time to have a hissy fit.

    But the two next gen consoles are both powerhouses that completely destroy the Wii U. Since they are so similar, it will be a case of splitting hairs in game comparison's like the current gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daLa View Post
    Do you guys really not care about the specs at all? Then you wouldn't mind getting all those great upcoming games on the current gen consoles with the current graphics then?
    If gameplay features aren't missing, then sure.

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    Players want "to play great games and have great experiences. I feel like our games and experiences are going to be every bit as good, if not better, technically."

    That what it's all about right there. XB1 is gonna have great game experiences as well as powerful hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    That what it's all about right there. XB1 is gonna have great game experiences as well as powerful hardware.
    We hope.




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