Page 1 of 3 1 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 68
  1. #1
    Apprentice
    Super Manning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    208
    Rep Power
    10
    Points
    2,839 (0 Banked)

    Sony Denies Removing Camera to Make PS4 Price Competitive With Xbox One


  2. #2
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    27
    Posts
    13,821
    Rep Power
    145
    Points
    87,209 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    I somehow doubt this but I'm glad they opted to do so because I didn't want it. On a side note, Seb from PlayStation lifestyle isn't our Seb is it?




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  3. #3
    Elite Guru
    TAZ427's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sugar Land, TX
    PSN ID
    TAZ427
    Age
    43
    Posts
    5,222
    Rep Power
    76
    Points
    22,376 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Manning View Post
    To be honest the PS4Eye w/o Move Controllers (Yes, I know there's some features in the DS4 Controller) is very limiting. Putting it out w/o tossing in at least one Motion controller would have been a limiting effort.

    The majority of those who want to pay the extra money for it will be those existing Move controller users (like myself.)

    I think it was a good pricing strategy, and I think they wanted to make sure they didn't come in higher in price than the XB1, which is something they were constantly behind the ball on last generation. But I do believe them when they say they had no idea of what the pricing was going to be on the XB1.

    They didn't make it an integral part/requirement like was made on the XB1, which because of this, has to ship w/ the kinect.

    It's simply a different strategy.



  4. #4
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    27
    Posts
    13,821
    Rep Power
    145
    Points
    87,209 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ427 View Post
    To be honest the PS4Eye w/o Move Controllers (Yes, I know there's some features in the DS4 Controller) is very limiting. Putting it out w/o tossing in at least one Motion controller would have been a limiting effort.

    The majority of those who want to pay the extra money for it will be those existing Move controller users (like myself.)

    I think it was a good pricing strategy, and I think they wanted to make sure they didn't come in higher in price than the XB1, which is something they were constantly behind the ball on last generation. But I do believe them when they say they had no idea of what the pricing was going to be on the XB1.

    They didn't make it an integral part/requirement like was made on the XB1, which because of this, has to ship w/ the kinect.

    It's simply a different strategy.
    I Believe they didn't know the price but many expected it to be 500 in the US. They can say all they want but like you said if they offer it without those that want it will buy it. No need to drive the price up for many that don't want it or are indifferent about it. I still think this was mostly about pricing strategy. Especially considering the fact that it interacts with the controller.




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  5. #5
    Dedicated Member

    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Oklahoma
    PSN ID
    Foraeli
    Posts
    1,062
    Rep Power
    18
    Points
    12,958 (0 Banked)
    It's doubtful. I'm sure Sony pulled it last minute to outprice Microsoft.

  6. #6
    Superior Member
    Flumbooze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Belgium
    PSN ID
    Flumbooze
    Posts
    588
    Rep Power
    11
    Points
    1,781 (0 Banked)
    Items User name style
    Sony's on a PR marathon. Can't blame them.

  7. #7
    Extreme Poster
    mistercrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Texas
    PSN ID
    mistercrow
    Posts
    25,535
    Rep Power
    166
    Points
    169,417 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    I somehow doubt this but I'm glad they opted to do so because I didn't want it. On a side note, Seb from PlayStation lifestyle isn't our Seb is it?
    Yep thats our Seb. Or at least used to be.

  8. #8
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    27
    Posts
    13,821
    Rep Power
    145
    Points
    87,209 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Yep thats our Seb. Or at least used to be.
    Did he found that site?




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  9. #9
    Extreme Poster
    mistercrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Texas
    PSN ID
    mistercrow
    Posts
    25,535
    Rep Power
    166
    Points
    169,417 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by ps3freak18 View Post
    Did he found that site?
    I have no idea.

  10. #10
    Forum Guru
    KnotGamer901's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    NC
    PSN ID
    markiemark901
    Age
    23
    Posts
    3,669
    Rep Power
    60
    Points
    30,525 (0 Banked)
    I could believe that sony did that just to beat out Microsoft. Gotta do what you gotta do, cant blame them for trying to get the upper hand this gen. Plus, I wouldn't have liked the eye being mandatory either. But regardless, like flumbooze said sony's on a pr marathon getting everything they can out of these positive vibes lol. Good for them, payback's a $#@!.



    Currently Playing: COD Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4

  11. #11
    Superior Member
    jphuff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona
    PSN ID
    jhuff
    Posts
    854
    Rep Power
    60
    Points
    12,061 (0 Banked)
    I don't believe they pulled the camera last minute for pricing any more than I believe they were going to restrict used games like MS until they saw all the negativity MS was getting. Would be too hard to change all their documents and things with only a few hours between the MS conference and Sony conference. I think they had good business intelligence that told them what MS was likely to do and they simply planned accordingly. That DOES happen, you know..

    All you have to decide is what to do with the time give to you....
    http://www.woodchuckproductions.net

  12. Likes Christopher likes this post
  13. #12
    Master Guru
    TDbank24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Age
    29
    Posts
    6,828
    Rep Power
    68
    Points
    38,432 (0 Banked)
    Okay Sony, we believe you.


  14. #13
    Veteran
    bobtheduck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Age
    32
    Posts
    4,897
    Rep Power
    70
    Points
    4,645 (0 Banked)
    The damned camera does not account for 100 bucks difference. Well, maybe Kinect 2.0 costs 100 bucks to make, but a dual RGB camera certainly doesn't. Kinect 1 only costs around 56 bucks in 2010, so a dual RGB cam will likely be about 50 bucks (It IS higher resolution than Kinect, so it ends up evening out)

  15. #14
    Veteran
    Kauldron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    4,112
    Rep Power
    79
    Points
    6,417 (0 Banked)
    I don't think Sony has ever forced a peripheral on their customers have they?
    _______________________________________________

    _______________________________________________

  16. #15
    Forum Guru
    KnotGamer901's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    NC
    PSN ID
    markiemark901
    Age
    23
    Posts
    3,669
    Rep Power
    60
    Points
    30,525 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by jphuff View Post
    I don't believe they pulled the camera last minute for pricing any more than I believe they were going to restrict used games like MS until they saw all the negativity MS was getting. Would be too hard to change all their documents and things with only a few hours between the MS conference and Sony conference. I think they had good business intelligence that told them what MS was likely to do and they simply planned accordingly. That DOES happen, you know..
    I think you're right. while I could see them pulling it, I really don't think they did. I think they just made a sound business decision and it's paying off and people who aren't ps fans are whining


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2



    Currently Playing: COD Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4

  17. #16
    Super Moderator
    PS4freak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Louisiana
    PSN ID
    lsutigers19
    Age
    27
    Posts
    13,821
    Rep Power
    145
    Points
    87,209 (190,439 Banked)
    Items Final Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XCall of Duty: Black OPSDragon Ball ZPS3 SlimGoogle Chrome
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    I don't think Sony has ever forced a peripheral on their customers have they?
    Not to my knowledge. Could be wrong.




    Currently Playing: ​ Watch Dogs
    Currently Waiting For: ​​ ​Destiny

  18. #17
    Veteran
    faaeng's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    .....pss..behind you
    Age
    33
    Posts
    4,270
    Rep Power
    75
    Points
    14,319 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kauldron View Post
    I don't think Sony has ever forced a peripheral on their customers have they?
    The original dualshock is all that I can really think of if that counts. Don't think anyone complained about it tho lol
    Last edited by faaeng; 07-06-2013 at 01:18.
    PCs are very much like Air Conditioners.
    They both become utterly useless once you start to open up Windows....
    ----------------------------------------------


  19. #18
    Supreme Veteran
    claud3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Agartha
    PSN ID
    sophieskyrim126Era
    Age
    30
    Posts
    17,633
    Rep Power
    128
    Points
    1,078 (0 Banked)
    Items Tommy VercettiGTA Claude
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    If they did, by all means

    It means better value for a console that is not " marked with death "

    Plato and Aristotle, a detail of The School of Athens, a fresco by Raphael. Aristotle gestures to the earth, representing his belief in knowledge

  20. #19
    Administrator
    Ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    PSN ID
    rokushakubo
    Posts
    12,820
    Rep Power
    132
    Points
    6,612,257 (100,956 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Awards PSU+ Patriot
    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    It's doubtful. I'm sure Sony pulled it last minute to outprice Microsoft.
    As Tretton said in the E3 interview (IIRC), massive companies plan crap out months in advance and they have to execute on that. I doubt any last minute plans were made, these are conglomerates, not saturday morning flea market stalls.

  21. #20
    Master Sage
    Bitbydeath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    32
    Posts
    14,350
    Rep Power
    131
    Points
    45,002 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Camera only costs $50 right?
    Even if they added it in they wouldn't up the price by exactly $50. (they take a cost hit on everything implemented)
    Likely they could have added it in and still kept the same price providing they were 1). set on that price and 2). thought the cam was required for every SKU.

  22. #21
    Forum Guru
    KnotGamer901's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    NC
    PSN ID
    markiemark901
    Age
    23
    Posts
    3,669
    Rep Power
    60
    Points
    30,525 (0 Banked)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    As Tretton said in the E3 interview (IIRC), massive companies plan crap out months in advance and they have to execute on that. I doubt any last minute plans were made, these are conglomerates, not saturday morning flea market stalls.
    take a pause sir, Microsoft is defeating ur statement weekly


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2



    Currently Playing: COD Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed 4

  23. #22
    Administrator and PSU Technical Manager
    Christopher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, GA
    Age
    43
    Posts
    8,446
    Rep Power
    110
    Points
    69,222 (1,010 Banked)
    Items Death Note LAtlusVitaPS3 FatMetal Gear Solid 4Naughty Dog360 SlimGuerrilla GamesApple
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    As Tretton said in the E3 interview (IIRC), massive companies plan crap out months in advance and they have to execute on that. I doubt any last minute plans were made, these are conglomerates, not saturday morning flea market stalls.
    And how would Sony know what the X1 would cost prior to E3? They found out when we found out. Pricing strategies are not formulated in the matter of a couple of hours between E3 press conferences.

    And as far as Sony knew, MS could have pulled their entire plan for DRM prior to E3 and thrown Sony for a loop. Everything Sony threw out at E3, it without knowledge of what MS had planned.
    My avatar* is dedicated to server errors where ever they roam. May they never return.
    *censoring provided by Ghost

    Server Error Status Thread







  24. #23
    Extreme Poster
    mistercrow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Texas
    PSN ID
    mistercrow
    Posts
    25,535
    Rep Power
    166
    Points
    169,417 (0 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    As Tretton said in the E3 interview (IIRC), massive companies plan crap out months in advance and they have to execute on that. I doubt any last minute plans were made, these are conglomerates, not saturday morning flea market stalls.

  25. #24
    Administrator
    Ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    PSN ID
    rokushakubo
    Posts
    12,820
    Rep Power
    132
    Points
    6,612,257 (100,956 Banked)
    Achievements IT'S OVER 9000!
    Awards PSU+ Patriot
    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    And how would Sony know what the X1 would cost prior to E3? They found out when we found out. Pricing strategies are not formulated in the matter of a couple of hours between E3 press conferences.

    And as far as Sony knew, MS could have pulled their entire plan for DRM prior to E3 and thrown Sony for a loop. Everything Sony threw out at E3, it without knowledge of what MS had planned.
    Exactly. It's all a bit silly to think that a company would make changes that had been in place for months and months on a whim after the competitors price reveal. Sony said it wasn't bundled because it's about consumer choice.

  26. #25
    Elite Guru
    Jabjabs's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    5,403
    Rep Power
    77
    Points
    5,253 (0 Banked)
    Truth be told the PSeye on Ps2 and Ps3 while successful enough where never huge sellers, it feels like a product that would of held back the platform more than help. Sony made the right choice as far as I'm concerned.

    The camera just doesn't add enough functionality to justify the additional cost to everyone, this is the same issue I have with MS packing in the Kinect with X1.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
vBCredits II Deluxe v2.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2010-2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.