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    Quote Originally Posted by rene2kx View Post
    if you are hoping multiplats to look noticeably better on ps4 down the line, you're falling in the same trap like you did with teh cell and ps3. i clearly remember threads circa 2006 on how teh cell was going to make the 360 games look outdated in a couple of years.
    The real difference may be in amount of RAM availabe to the games. Xbone has a 3 gig OS. PS4's OS size is unknown (last I checked) but it's almost certainly not as bloated as the Xbone's. That extra ram will make a lot of difference, and you'll be seeing games take advantage of that extra 1 or 2 gigs (depending on how big the PS4's OS is) before too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtheduck View Post
    The real difference may be in amount of RAM availabe to the games. Xbone has a 3 gig OS. PS4's OS size is unknown (last I checked) but it's almost certainly not as bloated as the Xbone's. That extra ram will make a lot of difference, and you'll be seeing games take advantage of that extra 1 or 2 gigs (depending on how big the PS4's OS is) before too long.
    MS hasn't announced their OS size either. Both companies haven't revealed that from what we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    MS hasn't announced their OS size either. Both companies haven't revealed that from what we know.
    http://n4g.com/news/1262357/microsof...-ram-for-games
    http://www.gizmag.com/xbox-one-vs-pl...parison/27897/
    http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/05/m...ram-for-games/

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    Enjoy from your link:

    He did this indirectly by not denying past rumors of the RAM being broken down this way. He was directly asked if 3GB RAM was used for the OS and he shyed away from answering, hinting that it may be true.
    Actual interview here:

    https://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...c-whitten.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Enjoy from your link:



    Actual interview here:

    https://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...c-whitten.aspx
    You'd think MS would tell Gizmodo, Kotaku, etc NOT to say that, or to correct them, if it wasn't true, because that could be damaging misinformation. The Kotaku article has MS explaining game suspension, and they explain when the game is fully running, it has access to 5 gigs.

    1) Running: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.
    Last edited by bobtheduck; 07-20-2013 at 20:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtheduck View Post
    You'd think MS would tell Gizmodo, Kotaku, etc NOT to say that, or to correct them, if it wasn't true, because that could be damaging misinformation.
    They are used to people running rampant with false information. Only so much they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    They are used to people running rampant with false information. Only so much they can do.
    You think if they gave an official statement to Kotaku, Gizmodo, or GI, that they wouldn't all run it? Give me a break. Also, just listened to the interview up to the point the question was being asked, and he didn't deny what the guy said. He could have said "Well, that's not quite right, but we can't tell you exactly how it works" or something

    EDIT: IN fact, he all but confirmed it. He was playing up the ability to run all the other experiences at the same time, which is their reasoning for devoting 3 gigs to the OS. So you have nothing to stand on.

    https://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...c-whitten.aspx

    The question is about the 10 minute mark. Not only does he not deny it, but be is implying it's true. The only thing he said he didn't want to talk about was the PS4, because what the said was true and that's a negative mark against the XBone.
    Last edited by bobtheduck; 07-20-2013 at 20:54.

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    Like I said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Like I said...
    Like you said what? You were trying to say it wasn't confirmed. The structure of the conversation suggests implicitly that what the interviewer said was true. It would not have been hard to suggest otherwise. So... Yeah, you have nothing. The only reason he didn't outright repeat what the guy said was because the interviewer put it in the form of a negative, and the interviewee had to spin it into a positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Like I said...
    a whole bunch of nothing


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtheduck View Post
    You'd think MS would tell Gizmodo, Kotaku, etc NOT to say that, or to correct them, if it wasn't true, because that could be damaging misinformation. The Kotaku article has MS explaining game suspension, and they explain when the game is fully running, it has access to 5 gigs.

    1) Running: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.
    Or ...could it be...they haven't finalized it yet? Im sure they have ring-fenced 3gb off, but that certainly is not set in stone.
    My understanding is they are still feverishly at work on the firmware.
    Last edited by mynd; 07-20-2013 at 21:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Or ...could it be...they haven't finalized it yet?
    Kind of dangerous when you have dev kits out there that should be working with final specs, huh? I mean, it's not something not essential for gameplay like the used game mess. If they change the specs for how much ram is available, that changes how they make the games.

    Sorry, the guy basically confirmed it in that video interview. This is grasping at straws to avoid a potential negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    a whole bunch of nothing
    Lol

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    WoW!! this thread has an insane amount of useless debate. This post included!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
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    Ahhh , Soldier 95b the disinformation agent of Xbone. Has almost side tracked this thread on Sony's advantage in power , to sow doubt in the minds of the uninformed and fence sitters on which console to buy, based on raw horsepower and efficiency.
    This tread is about the graphical advantage developers say PS4 has over Xbone. Not games, not XB360 or PS3.
    So, come on Soldier 95b say it with me,post the quote below. You can do it, the truth will set you free.
    "The PS4 is the worlds most powerful gaming console."

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    Soldier, how you gonna get hate from a dude on his first post?

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    Soldier, how you gonna get hate from a dude on his first post?
    lol
    Last edited by mistercrow; 07-20-2013 at 23:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    Ahhh , Soldier 95b the disinformation agent of Xbone. Has almost side tracked this thread on Sony's advantage in power , to sow doubt in the minds of the uninformed and fence sitters on which console to buy, based on raw horsepower and efficiency. This tread is about the graphical advantage developers say PS4 has over Xbone. Not games, not XB360 or PS3. So, come on Soldier 95b say it with me,post the quote below. You can do it, the truth will set you free. "The PS4 is the worlds most powerful gaming console."
    +rep

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    Soldier, how you gonna get hate from a dude on his first post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Terror View Post
    Ahhh , Soldier 95b the disinformation agent of Xbone. Has almost side tracked this thread on Sony's advantage in power , to sow doubt in the minds of the uninformed and fence sitters on which console to buy, based on raw horsepower and efficiency.
    This tread is about the graphical advantage developers say PS4 has over Xbone. Not games, not XB360 or PS3.
    So, come on Soldier 95b say it with me,post the quote below. You can do it, the truth will set you free.
    "The PS4 is the worlds most powerful gaming console."
    EPIC!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by mistercrow View Post
    lol
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    EPIC!!

    it's times like these i almost don't feel bad for wasting my life on these forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    it's times like these i almost don't feel bad for wasting my life on these forums
    Almost?
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