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    Nintendo >> Sony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft

    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    PMSL.

    Have you guys actually bothered to look at the $#@! in the PS3 list.
    What a lot of stocking filler crap.

    Sony certainly "benefit" from
    Japanese studios...yawn....IMHO of course. I wouldn't walk across the street for them.
    Wow man listen to yourself. The scorn, you're absolutely hating this aren't you. Stocking fillers? In MY opinion all 12 X360 exclusives on that list are 'stocking fillers'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Nintendo >> Sony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft


    Wow man listen to yourself. The scorn, you're absolutely hating this aren't you. Stocking fillers? In MY opinion all 12 X360 exclusives on that list are 'stocking fillers'
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    PMSL.

    Have you guys actually bothered to look at the $#@! in the PS3 list.
    What a lot of stocking filler crap.

    Sony certainly "benefit" from
    Japanese studios...yawn....IMHO of course. I wouldn't walk across the street for them.
    Yeah. Games like Ar Tonelico, White Knight Chronicles, White Knight Chronicles 1.02 (the "proper" name for WKC2), Argest War, ModNation, SuperStars TV (wtf??), Trinity, and a ton other of borderline-indie Japanese games are mostly vaporware with no real production value. If people want to acknowledge a platform solely based on the shear volume of exclusive games, then they should all be shouting "PC! PC!" with everything they got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    PMSL.

    Have you guys actually bothered to look at the $#@! in the PS3 list.
    What a lot of stocking filler crap.

    Sony certainly "benefit" from
    Japanese studios...yawn....IMHO of course. I wouldn't walk across the street for them.
    What I find drastically funny is that they narrowed the list down to a very specific set of games to favor the Playstation. They wanted games that are released on Tuesdays, in the US, that are 8gb in size games, that retail for $60.00 and are first party published. Let's just forget about all the other exclusives on the 360 from third party, from XBLA and XBLIG that completely trounce the Playstation. LOL.

    My pick from best to worst, IMO, for games that APPEAL to me:

    1. MS
    2. Sony
    3. Nintendo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    Yeah. Games like Ar Tonelico, White Knight Chronicles, White Knight Chronicles 1.02 (the "proper" name for WKC2), Argest War, ModNation, SuperStars TV (wtf??), Trinity, and a ton other of borderline-indie Japanese games are mostly vaporware with no real production value. If people want to acknowledge a platform solely based on the shear volume of exclusive games, then they should all be shouting "PC! PC!" with everything they got.
    I dunno if you're serious but ModNation is one of the best kart racers ever IMO, MK is still the best but it was pretty damn close.

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    Naughty Dog are better than anything the other two have. Santa Monica are also legends and $#@! on anything Ninty or MS has. Of course, I'm talking about development prowess, not games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    I dunno if you're serious but ModNation is one of the best kart racers ever IMO, MK is still the best but it was pretty damn close.
    I thought he was being sarcastic until he mentions SuperstarTV.... Then I was just confused. I thoroughly enjoyed all the other games he mention... o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    I dunno if you're serious but ModNation is one of the best kart racers ever IMO, MK is still the best but it was pretty damn close.
    From what I remember, ModNation wasn't very highly rated. Whatever the case, the rest of the list are mostly just cheaply made Japanese games that found their way to the States. But exclusives counting and comparing for the sake of crowning a platform has always been meaningless. Exclusives has never been about numbers in my opinion. It's really just about what you like in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Naughty Dog are better than anything the other two have. Santa Monica are also legends and $#@! on anything Ninty or MS has. Of course, I'm talking about development prowess, not games.
    I would add GG to that as far as development prowess goes. KZ2 and KZ3 look amazing and now KZ SF on PS4 is looking sweet. Plus I love the KZ series. lol Sony's developers crap all over MS developers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Naughty Dog are better than anything the other two have. Santa Monica are also legends and $#@! on anything Ninty or MS has. Of course, I'm talking about development prowess, not games.
    IMO, Turn 10 are better than anything the other two have. I love their development process, their outsourcing to bring in heavy content (but with strict high standards for consistency and quality), their community feedback (along with the development changes and implementations they get from community feedback). I think they $#@! on everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foraeli View Post
    From what I remember, ModNation wasn't very highly rated. Whatever the case, the rest of the list are mostly just cheaply made Japanese games that found their way to the States. But exclusives counting and comparing for the sake of crowning a platform has always been meaningless. Exclusives has never been about numbers in my opinion. It's really just about what you like in the end.
    Anything that isn't rated M or has guns automatically gets slapped down nowadays. ModNation was a very fun kart racer, the only downside was the load times.

    Those cheap Japanese games were localized by NIS America, who have been localizing niche Japanese games for years now, not just on PS3 to beef up its library, they obviously sell enough for NIS to still be in business. Label them cheap, shovelware, $#@! etc. all you want but at least those games have stuck to the JRPG formula and not tried to westernize and ultimately flop like a certain larger Japanese publisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Anything that isn't rated M or has guns automatically gets slapped down nowadays. ModNation was a very fun kart racer, the only downside was the load times.

    Those cheap Japanese games were localized by NIS America, who have been localizing niche Japanese games for years now, not just on PS3 to beef up its library, they obviously sell enough for NIS to still be in business. Label them cheap, shovelware, $#@! etc. all you want but at least those games have stuck to the JRPG formula and not tried to westernize and ultimately flop like a certain larger Japanese publisher.
    I love Japanese games too, but you have to look at it from another perspective. It wouldn't be out of the question to say games like Ar Tonelico and Argest War just cheap porn games with generic copy-and-paste RPG gameplay and not much of a step up above indie games. I know they are technically retail games, but their production values are very on line with that of indie developers. If this is going to be a comparison of the shear number of exclusives regardless of production value, then digitally released indie games of both systems should be included in the lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Naughty Dog are better than anything the other two have. Santa Monica are also legends and $#@! on anything Ninty or MS has. Of course, I'm talking about development prowess, not games.
    Totally agree with you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    PMSL. Have you guys actually bothered to look at the $#@! in the PS3 list. What a lot of stocking filler crap. Sony certainly "benefit" from Japanese studios...yawn....IMHO of course. I wouldn't walk across the street for them.
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    Nintendo >> Sony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft


    Wow man listen to yourself. The scorn, you're absolutely hating this aren't you. Stocking fillers? In MY opinion all 12 X360 exclusives on that list are 'stocking fillers'
    My dislike of the average Japanese title is well known. As Foraeli says, the production cost of some of the XBL/PSN titles probably exceed some of these efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    What I find drastically funny is that they narrowed the list down to a very specific set of games to favor the Playstation. They wanted games that are released on Tuesdays, in the US, that are 8gb in size games, that retail for $60.00 and are first party published. Let's just forget about all the other exclusives on the 360 from third party, from XBLA and XBLIG that completely trounce the Playstation. LOL.

    My pick from best to worst, IMO, for games that APPEAL to me:

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    Um..this thread is about first party ain't it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro View Post
    Um..this thread is about first party ain't it not?
    Not since they bought the graphic in with a plethora of 3rd party titles for Sony.

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    Sony with out a doubt. I'm not talking about the overly Japanese stuff either. I play them once and awhile, but its like overload of Japanese games on PS Vita right now. I'm talking more about the games like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Twisted Metal, Socom (RIP), Killzone, etc. They are games that appeal more to me as, well, I like murder.

    Xbox comes in second because I can honestly say that I enjoy games like Left 4 Dead, Fable, and Gears of War which is my favourite franchise of all the Microsoft exclusives. Funny enough, I would have never played it if after I bought my first 360 my dad hadn't bought me Gears 1 along with Dead Rising one for my birthday.

    Worst out of the list is Nintendo. Sure Mario is cool and all, but one every few years is enough. There isnt one Nintendo exclusive I have ever been excited for. Worst of all, these morons who work for Nintendo came out and said they underestimated how long it'd take to make HD games. Like for real Nintendo? All you people do is make games, if anyone out of the three should have no excuses it should be Nintendo.
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    Sony has the best first party. i thought that much was obvious. PS3's existence is largely contributed to them holding it up

    MS has some standouts (was sad when PGR went bye bye) but i was never a fan of halo. i thoroughly enjoyed gears in the early days (bought a whole 360 solely for) but it is third party....

    even on the digital side though, Flower, Journey, Flow were all immensely enjoyable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    What I find drastically funny is that they narrowed the list down to a very specific set of games to favor the Playstation. They wanted games that are released on Tuesdays, in the US, that are 8gb in size games, that retail for $60.00 and are first party published. Let's just forget about all the other exclusives on the 360 from third party, from XBLA and XBLIG that completely trounce the Playstation. LOL.
    No, they didn't. It is a list of retail games from different publishers. If you think XBLA or whatever is the reason people buy consoles, you are just wrong.
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    My dislike of the average Japanese title is well known. As Foraeli says, the production cost of some of the XBL/PSN titles probably exceed some of these efforts.
    Name them

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    Name them
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    Just off the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    No, they didn't. It is a list of retail games from different publishers. If you think XBLA or whatever is the reason people buy consoles, you are just wrong.
    Opinion noted. That said, they buy them for the entirety. Retail, XBLA, XBLIG, media functionality, Xbox Live and friends/family. The full package.

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