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    Build process:
    Considering it was maybe 6 years ago when I was in the PC build scene not all that much has changed, some of my old PC parts feature in my 1st Gen 1.8GHz Dual Core are here today but in full force. Using help from you guys here, YouTube videos (NCIX and the like) I had a pretty firm grasp on where I was heading and what had to be done including the price/preformance I could achieve building from scratch my way.

    The physical build only took about 1hr, it was really quite fun. The Prodigy is truly a remarkable case and props to Bit Fenix they deserve full credit, even if you remove all drive bays you can still install 1 laptop HDD and 2 SSD's on the side case panel, lol. I fortunately only remove a small upper section of drive bays that easily clipped out to make room for my GTX 650 video card which was maybe 1CM too long to allow both to sit in side.

    Case - BitFenix Prodigy Atomic Orange. ($89)
    Power Supply - Coolermaster Extreme 700W ATX ($109)
    Motherboard - Gigabyte Z87N-Wifi ($155)
    CPU - 4th Gen Intel i7
    4770 Haswell 4 Core 3.4GHz 8 Thread ($360)
    GPU - Asus GTX650 2GB DDR5. (
    $150)
    RAM - G.Skill RipJaws 8GBx2 DDR3, 1600MHz ($170)HDD - 128GB ScanDisk Ultra Plus ($110)
    ROM - LG 16x Blu-Ray burner (
    $109)

    Total Spent (So far):
    $1,252 Australian bucks.
    Bring on the i7 3.4GHz Haswell :P

    Pictures:
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    Open side w/cable management.


    Additional push fan installed on the top.


    Rear I/O


    Final thoughts:
    I few minor road blocks along the way such as power converters for the fans but I just nicked those from my old PC. Also windows had issues installing but I quickly sorted some stuff out in the bios and got up and running.

    Beautiful case, powerful computer. Everything I've thrown at it runs at full graphics 720P I can even emulate PS2 games at 720P with x8 AA. 720P is my TV limit, I am sure even with a GTX 650 2GB 1080P wouln't cause much issue.

    Thanks to all that helped, now if only I could turn this into a PC building business :/
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    Great build man. That CPU should last you many many years if you treat it right. Only things you'll need to touch in the next 5 years probably are the GPU and probably DDR4 when it's available.

    A word on the fans, in my experience pull is better than push

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    Looking snazzy! And yeah, NCIX or any video with Linus in are worth watching. I value that guys opinion so much

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    So a standard sized ATX power supply fits in this case?

    Just found out BitFenix released an micro ATX version of this case.
    http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/ne...hes-prodigy-m/
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    Full sized power supply inside, I have the cables parted to the sides and come up to the board that way.

    Its fun seeing PS2 games like FFX run in HD. Looks real good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Full sized power supply inside, I have the cables parted to the sides and come up to the board that way.

    Its fun seeing PS2 games like FFX run in HD. Looks real good.
    How you get PS2 games working so well I tried many of mine and they have lots of graphical errors or just plain didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    How you get PS2 games working so well I tried many of mine and they have lots of graphical errors or just plain didn't work.
    No idea, read that Haswell was good with emulation. Don't know if thats a fact.

    About 2hrs into FFX, no slowdown or
    graphics glitches yet running in 720P 4:3 8x AA with a USB controller converter.

    I'll try more tonight like GT3, Bully...

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    I doubt its to do with the CPU

    Which emulator you using?

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    PCSX2 1.0.0 (r5350)
    Video plugin: GSdx 5334

    Who knows, might also be my GTX 650 :P with those new age shaders and stuff.

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    PCSX2 1,0 works 10 x better than anything I ever tried before,. Silent hill 2 actually works at 50FPS its PAL so thats the standard Hitman 2 on the other hand has a 60Hz option cant seem to get AA to work though but at least every game I tried so far actually works.

    I think it has issues running games from a DVD, if I were to rip to a iso I think it would be better, certain things stutter then I hear my DVD drive ramp up to load dialogue or something.

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    Isn't emulation completely to do with the CPU?

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    It depends on the power it has but thats about it.

    A game not working at all or giving graphical glitches is more to do with the software than the CPU.


    Final fantasy games seem to wrk brilliantly and always have in most PS2 emulators because they are so popular and loved by fans. They get them working with patches and hacks. Look how many tools are specifically to do with final fantasy
    http://pcsx2.net/download/viewcatego...e-editors.html

    Yay found a widescreen patch for Silent hill 2
    http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PCSX2...5798#pid275798
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    Bully has some filter issues with the text effects but everything else is fine, there is some stutter but to me that seems almost identical to how the PS2 ran it xD

    I think FFX is just a popular well emulated title thats why its so good.

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    If that's your budget and you plan on playing DX11 games then drop to an i5 and spend the extra $100 on a better GPU. The 650 is low end. Look at a 760 from Nvidia or 7950 from AMD.

    The i7 is typically a waste of money.

    EDIT: Aslo, Haswell cpu's run very very hot! That case and motherboard will limit the aftermarket cooling options. Just a heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    So a standard sized ATX power supply fits in this case?

    Just found out BitFenix released an micro ATX version of this case.
    http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/ne...hes-prodigy-m/

    Sweet case and will be my next build. It's not out till October however.

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    MGS2 actually starts with this version but all that rain makes it run 30 -45FPS so its in slow motions.
    I could try a lower res but pfft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousBOB View Post
    If that's your budget and you plan on playing DX11 games then drop to an i5 and spend the extra $100 on a better GPU. The 650 is low end. Look at a 760 from Nvidia or 7950 from AMD.

    The i7 is typically a waste of money.

    EDIT: Aslo, Haswell cpu's run very very hot! That case and motherboard will limit the aftermarket cooling options. Just a heads up.
    People say Haswell runs hot, I say install another fan. Under 100% load for 5minutes the top temp reached was 51c for the CPU.
    On a daily basis, browsing internet and videos I hover around 28C so heat is fine.

    Plus in this build the back fan and the front fan could both be bigger.

    As for the GPU every game I've thrown at it, run maxed out, lol.
    When ripping video from DVD for my tablet uncompressed I get 270fps conversion rate thanks to hyperthreading. I can also watch and record multiple HD TV streams with no issues.
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    50C is not bad temp. My AMD phenom 2 runs at over 60C when clocked to 3.7 at full load.


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    I think Haswell has a bad wrap about the heat, but it also has a better clock or something for better performance.
    Also it could be some ivy-bridge user envy too.

    I love my i7 so far there is nothing it can't run. If you can afford it why not.
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