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    I want to build a new PC, Advice?

    Hello guys,

    Case - BitFenix Prodigy White. ($89)
    Power Supply - Coolermaster Extreme 700W ATX ($109)
    Motherboard - Gigabyte Z87N-Wifi ($155)
    CPU - 4th Gen Intel i7 4770 Haswell 4 Core 3.4GHz 8 Thread ($360)
    GPU - Asus GTX650 2GB DDR5. ($150)
    RAM - G.Skill RipJaws 8GBx2 DDR3, 1600MHz ($170)
    HDD - 128GB ScanDisk Ultra Plus ($110)
    ROM - LG 16x Blu-Ray burner ($109)

    Total Spent (So far): $1,252 Australian bucks.
    I am in a market to build a new PC the one I currently have likes to shut down without notice when it feels like it.
    This could be a simple heat or dust issue so I will check that out, but the system is 6years old.

    Time for a new one.

    I live in a small space so i'd like a small compact PC, so far I am pretty much set on this case.
    BitFenix Prodigy.

    $104 on Ebay plus $11 shipping, seems fair.

    Power Supply Size Limitation: 15CM Depth x 15CM Width (150mm) x (150mm)
    Dimensions (WxHxD) 250 x 404 x 359mm

    Some suggestions on what fill it with? but nothing too powerful as heat for the size will be an issue, I am aiming for mid rage.
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    I was actually thinking about building a mATX computer in a bitfenix case. Would be perfect for Lan parties for when my laptop doesn't have enough oomph.

    Anyway, Budget? - This dictates everything.

    What do you want from it? How quiet do you want it to be? Watercooled or not?

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    Lets say money is limitless, lol. I say this because I plan to buy the parts over time so the burden isn't so much on the ol' bank account. So I can buy the case now, then in a week or two more parts and so on.

    Just like you I also want it for gaming, that case to me is super sexy.

    I am already sold on a 120GB SSD for the OS with maybe a 1TB HDD.
    Fan cooled would be fine, same goes for noise i'll likely be using headphones alot. I already have a decent USB DAC from Creative so I won't be needing anything special on the board there.

    It seems when I look at motherboards the higher the price the better the internal GPU is? Is there a simple fast board without the unneeded stuff like sound and video?
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    Sorry for the late reply, got caught up playing games

    Ha, you're going about your build the same way i'm doing my one! i'm ordering my first GPU on Saturday then hopefully my second in December as a birthday present to myself!

    I'll edit this post a bit later on, a bit tied up at the moment

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    The key is getting the right motherboard I think, with a small case like that I am stuck with an mATX board right?
    I was looking at this one
    ASUS P8Z77 M PRO

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    The key is getting the right motherboard I think, with a small case like that I am stuck with an mATX board right?
    I was looking at this one
    ASUS P8Z77 M PRO
    I just built my mom a decent little rig with that case...and it's MINI-ITX not Micro. That ASUS board will not fit.

    BTW it's a decent case. The HDD mounts could be a bit better...but I also got it for $30 cheaper than what you listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekmon View Post
    I just built my mom a decent little rig with that case...and it's MINI-ITX not Micro. That ASUS board will not fit.

    BTW it's a decent case. The HDD mounts could be a bit better...but I also got it for $30 cheaper than what you listed.
    That could be a simple currency error as mine is in Aussie dollars.

    I am willing to spend upto $1k, but the cheaper we can go the better as PS4 will be my main game system, I just need something powerful enough for Windows 7 and better than a 1.8 dual core first gen xD

    Every build I read online includes the Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe I may have to hunt that one down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    That could be a simple currency error as mine is in Aussie dollars.

    I am willing to spend upto $1k, but the cheaper we can go the better as PS4 will be my main game system, I just need something powerful enough for Windows 7 and better than a 1.8 dual core first gen xD

    Ah sorry didn't notice you were an Aussie
    Yeah that expains the $ difference.

    That BitFenix case is decent, though personally I'd go for this: http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/prod-CA...ck_USB3.0.html

    Costs a little more but doesn't 'feel' as cheap, plus it can handle ATX, Micro or Mini ATX as well. That...and I just love my FD cases.

    The little system I built was a simple AMD a4-5300 paired up with a hybrid laptop drive. Made for a snappy low power system. Biggest advice to you: You will notice more difference with an SSD more than a more powerful CPU (I mean in booting, launching programs...day to day stuff, not CPU intensive stuff like video encoding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    That could be a simple currency error as mine is in Aussie dollars.

    I am willing to spend upto $1k, but the cheaper we can go the better as PS4 will be my main game system, I just need something powerful enough for Windows 7 and better than a 1.8 dual core first gen xD

    Every build I read online includes the Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe I may have to hunt that one down.
    Do you want to Game?

    I just got finished building a Hackintosh with this case for a friend of mine last month.
    It took my HIS Radeon 6950 2GB video card no problem and had no problems cooling.
    AWESOME CASE and it has no cheap feel to it.

    I ALSO HAVE A FRACTAL DESIGNS BLACK PEARL USB3 case and, yes, it is silent, but, it's bigger.

    I found the acoustic properties of the BitFenix quite nice.
    The nice thing about the BitFenix is the undercarriage handles maximize airflow for the underside filter and PS.

    I'm gonna work up a Newegg wishlist for you and post it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    That could be a simple currency error as mine is in Aussie dollars.

    I am willing to spend upto $1k, but the cheaper we can go the better as PS4 will be my main game system, I just need something powerful enough for Windows 7 and better than a 1.8 dual core first gen xD

    Every build I read online includes the Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe I may have to hunt that one down.
    Do you prefer AMD or Intel?
    Until the next APU comes out, Intel still rules on SFF. That case takes a FULL SIZE POWER SUPPLY, but you gotta be careful. The one we bought for the Hackintosh was a hair to deep,and it was a Seasonic 550w, i'll check that one and get the depth measurement so you know what PS to avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    Do you prefer AMD or Intel?
    Until the next APU comes out, Intel still rules on SFF. That case takes a FULL SIZE POWER SUPPLY, but you gotta be careful. The one we bought for the Hackintosh was a hair to deep,and it was a Seasonic 550w, i'll check that one and get the depth measurement so you know what PS to avoid.
    Standard Width and Height are 5.9 in and 3.4/3.39 in. So, THE OTHER MEASURE is your depth.
    Some are as low as 5.5 in and that's great, they aren't MODULAR PS though, so, you have alot of extra cables in there . You are going to need only a few. Modular PS are deeper though and fit ALOT MORE SNUG into that PS bay. At 6.4in the Seasonic 550 is VERY tight. I would have bought a less deep PS had I measured ahead of time.
    I almost recommend a non modular PS to get the ease of use moving the cables in and out.

    I'd recommend this one to make life easy.
    http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/prod-RS...upply_PSU.html

    on the US Newegg page it says it's also 4thGen certified, and that has to do with the new Haswell processors LOWER power states, I think c6 and c7, you don't want to know what it is, just means looower power use modes.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171083

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    Wrong.

    According to the Bitfenix website the "prodigy" is Mini ITX.

    http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/pr.../prodigy#specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Wrong.

    According to the Bitfenix website the "prodigy" is Mini ITX.

    http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/pr.../prodigy#specs
    Absolutely, that mounting tray is Mini ITX only

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Hello guys,

    I am in a market to build a new PC the one I currently have likes to shut down without notice when it feels like it.
    This could be a simple heat or dust issue so I will check that out, but the system is 6years old.

    Time for a new one.

    I live in a small space so i'd like a small compact PC, so far I am pretty much set on this case.
    BitFenix Prodigy.

    $104 on Ebay plus $11 shipping, seems fair.

    Power Supply Size Limitation: 15CM Depth x 15CM Width (150mm) x (150mm)
    Dimensions (WxHxD) 250 x 404 x 359mm

    Some suggestions on what fill it with? but nothing too powerful as heat for the size will be an issue, I am aiming for mid rage.
    yea pm Sufi. he can give u advice like no other


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    Check this build out for parts that will fit.

    http://rog.asus.com/152712012/news/p...x-lan-monster/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Hello guys,

    I am in a market to build a new PC the one I currently have likes to shut down without notice when it feels like it.
    This could be a simple heat or dust issue so I will check that out, but the system is 6years old.

    Time for a new one.

    I live in a small space so i'd like a small compact PC, so far I am pretty much set on this case.
    BitFenix Prodigy.

    $104 on Ebay plus $11 shipping, seems fair.

    Power Supply Size Limitation: 15CM Depth x 15CM Width (150mm) x (150mm)
    Dimensions (WxHxD) 250 x 404 x 359mm

    Some suggestions on what fill it with? but nothing too powerful as heat for the size will be an issue, I am aiming for mid rage.
    quick question bro. what's a ballpark figure of how much money you're looking to put in it?


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    My brother has some i7 thingy with 2GB graphics card and a SSD and I was impressed to see PhotoShop load in 2s lol.

    Lets say I am sold on the prodigy, lets work something into it.
    I can only find the Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe for $250 or more, that looks steep because shipping is ripping me off.

    Are any of these boards good?
    http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/parts_S...LL_CAT_MB.html

    I like the Asrock H77M-ITX
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    Do you want me to stick to that website? In the US i pretty much just shop NewEgg

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Willaford View Post
    Do you want me to stick to that website? In the US i pretty much just shop NewEgg
    Use US websites I don't mind, you tell me the parts and I will source them from where ever that is decent.

    Intel is good, that power supply also looks sick, 600w should be over kill so it won't be too stressed.

    Build so far: (Prices in $AU)
    Case - BitFenix Prodigy Green. ($104)
    Power Supply - Coolermaster Thunder 600W ATX ($85)
    Motherboard - Asrock H77M-ITX ($126)
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    Corsair 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHZ 2x204 SODIMM, Unbuffered ($89)

    Total: $404

    Even tho you suggested the i7 it's a $150+ above this
    Intel I5-3470 3.2GHZ (4C 4T) which is $215
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickice View Post
    Use US websites I don't mind, you tell me the parts and I will source them from where ever that is decent.

    Intel is good, that power supply also looks sick, 600w should be over kill so it won't be too stressed.

    Build so far: (Prices in $AU)
    Case - BitFenix Prodigy Green. ($104)
    Power Supply - Coolermaster Thunder 600W ATX ($85)
    Motherboard - Asrock H77M-ITX ($126)
    RAM -
    Corsair 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHZ 2x204 SODIMM, Unbuffered ($89)

    Total: $404

    Even tho you suggested the i7 it's a $150+ above this
    Intel I5-3470 3.2GHZ (4C 4T) which is $215
    I can't find that mobo in ITX on this site, only in ATX, which won't fit.

    I know about the CPU, but you kept your last build for 6 years and there is a bigger problem:

    If you get the 4 core non Hyperthreaded chip, your shortchanging yourself. Delay getting the GPU. Your getting a PS4 anyway right?

    BTW, where is the Prodigy Green? I didn't see it on DD's website.
    Haswell performs better per clock cycle than Ivy Bridge (3xxxx vs 4xxxx series) so, you could get the ASRock mini itx board for cheaper and move to the haswell chip for almost no delta.

    http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/prod-B8...BA2-M-ITX.html

    I suggest maximizing your RAM too, at 16GB, again, because once DDR4 comes out, DDR3 prices will start to climb and it will become scarce. ALSO, you only have 2 memory sockets on ITX, so, you'd have to toss out your 2 sticks you already bought to upgrade. 8GB of RAM Doesn't go as far as you might think when your multitasking and photo editing while having multiple websites and tabs open, with email client open... etc... I'm using 6.55GB out of 8GB right now. I don't even have GIMP open, the second I open it, i better close my email client or some browser resources.
    GPU cards come along every 6 months to a year, BUT, your keeping the core of this box for years.

    On my 24GB i7 970 machine downstairs, i've never really gotten much past 12GB of ram in use, other than watching it spike when running video filters or a game, but, that's just fun stuff since there 's so much room for the algorithms to work i guess.

    I'm at this sofar.
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    Had a think about the GPU i recommended. I'm not sure what the airflow in the Prodigy is like so perhaps the ACX cooled cards could be a bad idea. They get the card significantly cooler but the hot air is exhausted into the case where as the reference nvidia card vents it out of the back.

    Something to think about.

    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Check this build out for parts that will fit.

    http://rog.asus.com/152712012/news/p...x-lan-monster/
    Damn that is a nice build indeed.
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    What GPU you getitng and will you be overclocking your GPU and CPU? as that can draw a lat of extra power. My CPU can draw 450w alone!

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